First in the queue? Looks like it.

[don'tbesilly]

Tryke3 said:

Camoradi said:

Tryke3 said:

I dont think a trade deal with usa is that important, no one will make the shipping free, sending stuff halfway around the world is trade barier, thats why a deal with the eu is a lot better imo

China seem to do it.

There was a great program on BBC4 last night about the diesel engine. The presenter Mark Evans was on board a huge container ship which had one of the world's most efficient diesel engines and carried 8500 20 ft containers. The shipping cost of typical product from China to Felixstowe was less than the cost of driving to the shop to pick it up.

well worth a watch http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06csy8c

Thanks i will have a look

Ttip if thats its name was a bum deal for us imo

The train is cheaper than sea freight

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38497997

[loafer123]

Tryke3 said:

I dont think a trade deal with usa is that important, no one will make the shipping free, sending stuff halfway around the world is trade barier, thats why a deal with the eu is a lot better imo

My wife owns an online retailer selling in the UK, Europe, US and, to a lesser extent, the RoW.

It is cheaper for her to buy the majority of her products wholesale from the US instead of Germany.

The product is identical - made in Asia.

So much for the Single Market.

I'd rather see a deal with the US, and if we leave the EU we can stop charging VAT on EU sales and just pay much smaller WTO duties which would make us more competitive.

[KrissKross]

Countdown said:

KrissKross said:

Can you please name any product or service that the USA needs to buy from Greece, Poland, Croatia, Turkey...

I didnt have time to look at the actual products/services but trade between the US and each of the above is in the Billions..both ways

Greece

Turkey

Poland

Croatia

Ha bingo, you are proving the point for us, all the EU countries you linked are exporting 10's millions to the USA (peanuts)

Turkey is exporting 100's millions to the USA and is not in the EU!

The EU has NOTHING to do with TRADE.

[Countdown]

KrissKross said:

Ha bingo, you are proving the point for us, all the EU countries you linked are exporting 10's millions to the USA (peanuts)

Turkey is exporting 100's millions to the USA and is not in the EU!

The EU has NOTHING to do with TRADE.

I never said Turkey was in the EU....I put them in there because YOU were suggesting they didn't have any material trade with the US.

So disproving your point is proving your point...... I guess it's an alternative fact.

[PF62]

loafer123 said:

My wife owns an online retailer selling in the UK, Europe, US and, to a lesser extent, the RoW.

...if we leave the EU we can stop charging VAT on EU sales and just pay much smaller WTO duties which would make us more competitive.

Except her EU customers would be charged VAT in their own country, just as people in the UK are charged if they import goods from outside the EU (yes I know lots slip through, but it is not guaranteed).

[ecurie]

loafer123 said:

My wife owns an online retailer selling in the UK, Europe, US and, to a lesser extent, the RoW.

It is cheaper for her to buy the majority of her products wholesale from the US instead of Germany.

The product is identical - made in Asia.

So much for the Single Market.

I'd rather see a deal with the US, and if we leave the EU we can stop charging VAT on EU sales and just pay much smaller WTO duties which would make us more competitive.

On the contrary, it would make you even less competitive.
A buyer would have to pay import tax and VAT in his own country.

I recently bought a carb synchronising tool online ( value +/- £35). After import duty and VAT it cost me £72
Had it come from an EU country I would only have paid the VAT from the country of origin.

[Jimbeaux]

WestyCarl said:

Jimbeaux said:

WestyCarl said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

Jimbeaux said:

There is room there for bust-o-plenty. The fact is he removed Churchill's to a lesser room down the hall as an insult. Obama has disdain for the British. Read his book, "Dreams of my Father". He hates Britain. Welcome back Sir Winston!

If he is intelligent as he likes to make out he would have known moving Winston Churchill's bust would be seen as a slight to an Nation but as it was the British Nation it was OK.

It's a good job I'm not the prez as if people can read so much into moving something I'd have great fun. There would be unicorns and miniature green tree frogs dotted all over the place instead of what was there before

Very gay! Not that there is anything wrong with that you understand.

exactly, it would send you rednecks (not that there's anything wrong with being a redneck ) into meltdown

You should read up on what an actual redneck is; you are throwing that net over too wide a field.

[WestyCarl]

Jimbeaux said:

WestyCarl said:

Jimbeaux said:

WestyCarl said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

Jimbeaux said:

There is room there for bust-o-plenty. The fact is he removed Churchill's to a lesser room down the hall as an insult. Obama has disdain for the British. Read his book, "Dreams of my Father". He hates Britain. Welcome back Sir Winston!

If he is intelligent as he likes to make out he would have known moving Winston Churchill's bust would be seen as a slight to an Nation but as it was the British Nation it was OK.

It's a good job I'm not the prez as if people can read so much into moving something I'd have great fun. There would be unicorns and miniature green tree frogs dotted all over the place instead of what was there before

Very gay! Not that there is anything wrong with that you understand.

exactly, it would send you rednecks (not that there's anything wrong with being a redneck ) into meltdown

You should read up on what an actual redneck is; you are throwing that net over too wide a field.

No need to get defensive, as I said, there's nothing wrong with rednecks

[Jimbeaux]

WestyCarl said:

Jimbeaux said:

WestyCarl said:

Jimbeaux said:

WestyCarl said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

Jimbeaux said:

There is room there for bust-o-plenty. The fact is he removed Churchill's to a lesser room down the hall as an insult. Obama has disdain for the British. Read his book, "Dreams of my Father". He hates Britain. Welcome back Sir Winston!

If he is intelligent as he likes to make out he would have known moving Winston Churchill's bust would be seen as a slight to an Nation but as it was the British Nation it was OK.

It's a good job I'm not the prez as if people can read so much into moving something I'd have great fun. There would be unicorns and miniature green tree frogs dotted all over the place instead of what was there before

Very gay! Not that there is anything wrong with that you understand.

exactly, it would send you rednecks (not that there's anything wrong with being a redneck ) into meltdown

You should read up on what an actual redneck is; you are throwing that net over too wide a field.

No need to get defensive, as I said, there's nothing wrong with rednecks

Oh not at all. However, I probably fall more into a category known as a "Coonass" than a "Redneck".

[anonymous-user]

ecurie said:

On the contrary, it would make you even less competitive.
A buyer would have to pay import tax and VAT in his own country.

I recently bought a carb synchronising tool online ( value +/- £35). After import duty and VAT it cost me £72
Had it come from an EU country I would only have paid the VAT from the country of origin.

Why didn't you buy it from the least expensive source?

[SKP555]

I suspect time will be very unkind to Obama.

The Post American Presidency is an interesting read. If you can stand Pamela Geller's voice this is a snap shot

https://youtu.be/TueuI3lRXV8

[Countdown]

Pamela Gellar is a certifiable fruitloop.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pamela_Geller

[Sylvaforever]

countdown in "balls out" mode...

[ecurie]

jsf said:

Why didn't you buy it from the least expensive source?

Because it was made specifically to fit the carbs on my car.

[anonymous-user]

ecurie said:

jsf said:

Why didn't you buy it from the least expensive source?

Because it was made specifically to fit the carbs on my car.

So you had no choice but to buy it from the USA then, is what you are saying.

Would it not be a good thing for the UK to have a better trading relationship with the USA, that being the case?