Violent Racist Attack

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pops666tt

134 posts

192 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Another pointless post. Does nothing but stir up emotions and bring out the usual crowd here.

It's sad that this things happen but racism isn't new

pops666tt

134 posts

192 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Another pointless post. Does nothing but stir up emotions and bring out the usual crowd

SeeFive

8,280 posts

232 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Whatever the reason, this is disgusting behaviour for 5 guys to attack one guy unprovoked.

I was incredibly impressed by the victim, talking to the group rather than grabbing the nearest large blunt object and taking it out on some of their heads.

Just maybe his peaceful and sensible approach will make them think a little about doing it again, contrary to what I would have tried to do had I caught up with them. Very brave and sensible person indeed. Lucky after the attack that he was multi lingual to diffuse the immediate situation it seems., or the outcome could have been different if their motives were as the press and his report suggests.

Scum. White, brown, Christian, Muslim, whatever, just our current indigenous scum looking for a reason.

mac96

3,715 posts

142 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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SeeFive said:
Whatever the reason, this is disgusting behaviour for 5 guys to attack one guy unprovoked.

I was incredibly impressed by the victim, talking to the group rather than grabbing the nearest large blunt object and taking it out on some of their heads.

Just maybe his peaceful and sensible approach will make them think a little about doing it again, contrary to what I would have tried to do had I caught up with them. Very brave and sensible person indeed. Lucky after the attack that he was multi lingual to diffuse the immediate situation it seems., or the outcome could have been different if their motives were as the press and his report suggests.

Scum. White, brown, Christian, Muslim, whatever, just our current indigenous scum looking for a reason.
Agreed. In a way, this is a positive story. Some groups of lads of whatever ethnicity have always been led into stupidity by the worst/most stupid/most aggressive of their number.

In this case, the victim was not seriously harmed and at least 4 of the group may, hopefully, have learned a lesson that might actually affect their future behavior for the better.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

243 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Absolute scumbags and a great reaction from the guy who was assaulted. Hopefully the 4 lads will be shamed enough to shop the assailant.

AJS, here's another one. I think you must have missed this whilst you were searching for racist gang assaults.

http://www.biggleswadetoday.co.uk/news/crime/hunt-...


SKP555

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1,114 posts

125 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Interesting that they don't mention the background of the victim. Presumably he also was not of the right ethnicity for this to be a big story?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

243 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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SKP555 said:
Interesting that they don't mention the background of the victim. Presumably he also was not of the right ethnicity for this to be a big story?
Since when has crime been all about race and religion and opposed to the actual crime itself? You must lead a very sad life searching for stories to confirm your preconceptions.

The assailants are "believed to be white". You can extrapolate whatever you like from that, but I think there's an inference in there somewhere. And no I couldn't find further details on the BBC website.

jdw100

4,069 posts

163 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Surely the interesting thing here is the way the victim dealt with the attack?

Regardless of race/colour/religion the story shows him to very calm in approach and quick thinking. I also would say that approaching some of the gang and explaining to them what they had done and why it was wrong shows real bravery.

SKP555

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1,114 posts

125 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Alpine
Since the media decided to politicise them by focusing on some incidents while ignoring others, and certain groups jumped on this bandwagon to see racism everywhere except where there is genuine racism. See comments above by Trabi and yourself.

Jdw
It does show a remarkably cool head and strength of character.

stitched

3,813 posts

172 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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I don't like this racial crime profiling at all, people have historically had more negative interactions with people they perceive to be of a different group.
When the interactions involved nations we used uniforms and flags to define these differences, on a more local level it would often be football shirts, or to be fair leather jackets or parkas.
To focus on crimes by looking at the race of either perpetrator or victim is, IMO, promoting racism.
The perception exists now that a racially motivated crime will attract more resource, effort and punishment than the same crime where race is the same.
This is not only wrong, and perhaps racist, but excaberates existing tensions as parts of the population are less protected and rightly resent it.
Anything which focuses on religious or racial differences and treats people differently fails to focus on the crime itself. It also raises awareness of the difference which in the end makes people identify with that difference, the more strongly people identify with their ethnic or religious group the more radical they are likely to be, be that EDL, ISIL, church, mosque or synagogue.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

243 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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SKP555 said:
Alpine
Since the media decided to politicise them by focusing on some incidents while ignoring others, and certain groups jumped on this bandwagon to see racism everywhere except where there is genuine racism. See comments above by Trabi and yourself.
You're obsessed, and seem to find these stories in abundance, both under your old moniker and now your new one, despite the press doing their best to "suppress" them. I'd say your OP is far more politicised than the latter one.

Must be so much fun being outraged all the time. But it's your life. Go knock yourself out.

SKP555

Original Poster:

1,114 posts

125 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Anyway now that we can see that Alpine and Trabi are just massive racists, the more interesting point to me is how and why the media select the stories they cover and don't cover?

Is it just what sells? Or is there some other agenda?

I would tend to think the former but when you have thr police in Australia telling journalists not to mention potential links with terror or Islam following the attack there last week you do start to wonder.

pops666tt

134 posts

192 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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boxxob said:
you are a keen little liar. Unlike the 'usual crowd', I remember your historical posts.

Let the deflection, displacement and distraction begin.
And whats your point? Glad dementia hasn't taken hold of you as yet; I'm not so sad spending all my time posting over issues I have no chance of influencing or changing. Did I historically upset you or something and you haven't forgotten? How bad of me. So sorry.

Wills2

22,669 posts

174 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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SKP555 said:
Interesting parallel.

Do you think we're now in an era of the same sort of denial about racism that we were in the sixties and seventies? Albeit a different kind of racism.
Everyone knows you have to be white to be racist, don't try and culturally appropriate racism, that's racist!!

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

171 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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These little tts should be lamped and chucked in the canal. Eye for an eye and all that.

Cliftonite

8,406 posts

137 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Do Pakistanis in general understand spoken Arabic?


MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

169 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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stitched said:
I don't like this racial crime profiling at all, people have historically had more negative interactions with people they perceive to be of a different group.
When the interactions involved nations we used uniforms and flags to define these differences, on a more local level it would often be football shirts, or to be fair leather jackets or parkas.
To focus on crimes by looking at the race of either perpetrator or victim is, IMO, promoting racism.
The perception exists now that a racially motivated crime will attract more resource, effort and punishment than the same crime where race is the same.
This is not only wrong, and perhaps racist, but excaberates existing tensions as parts of the population are less protected and rightly resent it.
Anything which focuses on religious or racial differences and treats people differently fails to focus on the crime itself. It also raises awareness of the difference which in the end makes people identify with that difference, the more strongly people identify with their ethnic or religious group the more radical they are likely to be, be that EDL, ISIL, church, mosque or synagogue.
The whole Ingroup-outgroup crime thing is everywhere in the world and has taken place all through time, you think our newspeak "isms" are going to stop this?

The young scrotes around my ends are rough little bds who i don't trust in the slightest.

Add to the fact we have a native populace with big issues we now have a growing 3rd/4th generation of immigrants in society who bring extra special retardation to the mix nowadays.

Oh noes thats racist, guess we should just give these young little scaliwags more money for them state programs.

Edit - oh and as hugos post after this one states, it's all a little bit fanciful a story. Either made up or just "Asian looking youths push man in canal"

Edited by MrBrightSi on Tuesday 24th January 08:20

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

232 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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article said:
Lee said: “As they were unable to outrun me they stopped and turned to confront me, but they were met with the offer of a handshake.

“As I have a detailed understanding of Islam, I was able to talk to them about the positive aspects of Mohammed and Islam and how their actions had been completely contrary to this.

“They said they were very sorry this had happened. They then walked off and I walked home.

“I was furious at the time but I am quite proud that I had them cornered but the first thing I did was offer my hand and spoke to them about the attack from the perspective of their faith.

"The four boys admitted that the attack happened because I was white and I explained that in the current political climate, such actions could have a negative effect on the Muslim Pakistani community which they are supposed to be representing. They were very ashamed and embarrassed.”
Is it just me, or does this seem like a load of made-up Walter Mitty stuff?

Wills2

22,669 posts

174 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Hugo a Gogo said:
article said:
Lee said: “As they were unable to outrun me they stopped and turned to confront me, but they were met with the offer of a handshake.

“As I have a detailed understanding of Islam, I was able to talk to them about the positive aspects of Mohammed and Islam and how their actions had been completely contrary to this.

“They said they were very sorry this had happened. They then walked off and I walked home.

“I was furious at the time but I am quite proud that I had them cornered but the first thing I did was offer my hand and spoke to them about the attack from the perspective of their faith.

"The four boys admitted that the attack happened because I was white and I explained that in the current political climate, such actions could have a negative effect on the Muslim Pakistani community which they are supposed to be representing. They were very ashamed and embarrassed.”
Is it just me, or does this seem like a load of made-up Walter Mitty stuff?
Sounds like a load of bks to me

MrNoisy

530 posts

140 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Misunderstood underprivileged Muslims commit crime but repent when white man proves he is willing to accept their culture and beliefs....

Group hug all around, reminds me of that wky amazon advert for knee pads. We, (the general population) must try harder to understand each other obviously.

I agree, total horse st.

What we need is more bobbys back on the beat (preferably avec tasers) sorting out these little twerps whatever culture/colour they may be. But here's the rub, for Police to be able to police, they need the support of the community. There are enclaves throughout so many areas now that are effectively no go areas.

Listening to some of the faux outrage on here and elsewhere recently in relation to a very nasty armed crim being shot shows the lack of respect for our Law enforcement.

Bring on the summary executions!!!!