Violent Racist Attack

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del mar

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199 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Hugo a Gogo said:
Is it just me, or does this seem like a load of made-up Walter Mitty stuff?
Exactly utter nonsense.

He was dripping wet, shocked from the attack, freezing cold but he sat there with them for several moments talking about the virtues of Allah !'

TTwiggy

11,538 posts

204 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Load of bull, but it's allowed the OP to continue his odd little campaign.

Alpinestars

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244 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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SKP555 said:
Anyway now that we can see that Alpine and Trabi are just massive racists, the more interesting point to me is how and why the media select the stories they cover and don't cover?

Is it just what sells? Or is there some other agenda?

I would tend to think the former but when you have thr police in Australia telling journalists not to mention potential links with terror or Islam following the attack there last week you do start to wonder.
It really bothers you that you've been busted doesn't it?

Is the race, religion, background of a perpetrator more important than the crime?

SKP555

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Alpinestars said:
It really bothers you that you've been busted doesn't it?

Is the race, religion, background of a perpetrator more important than the crime?
That is kind of what I was asking. Because if not then I would expect something like this to get far more coverage, as I am fairly sure it would if the attackers were white and the victim not.


Busted for what? Being a nasty racist? Being someone else? No, it doesn't bother me at all what you think. My inherent correctness stands on its own merit.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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They were Pakistani youths and admitted they attacked him because he was white. He was 38, father of two, ex teacher, out jogging, why would he 'make it up' like some on here have suggested? I find that worrying, plus he had his mug plastered over the local paper for his trouble. We have a violent Muslim underclass, who don't need some of the apologists on here to back them up, racially motivated attaches should be reported.

Alpinestars

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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SKP555 said:
That is kind of what I was asking. Because if not then I would expect something like this to get far more coverage, as I am fairly sure it would if the attackers were white and the victim not.


Busted for what? Being a nasty racist? Being someone else? No, it doesn't bother me at all what you think. My inherent correctness stands on its own merit.
Gosh. So much to analyse there.

PMSL at your last para. But taking it a bit more seriously, I didn't accuse you of being busted for anything, but it's quite telling that you came out with those 2 reasons. Thanks for the insight.

As far as your first one goes, it's so disingenuous and transparent. How come you didn't come across the one I posted? That appears to be white against non white, and under your assertion, it should have had loads of coverage, but amazingly even super sleuth you couldn't find it. Do you think that's had more coverage?



SKP555

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Well I am quite likely to assume you mean "busted" for one of the two things I've been accused of.

I'm not responsible for reporting every mugging in the country. It sounds horrible and I hope they are caught and punished.

Neither the victims ethnicity nor the level of violence, nor the nature of the racial abuse are mentioned in the article, so if for example it was "give us your wallet you Irish git" then it's a step short of knocking someone into a freezing canal and blocking their path out. Deplorable, but a step short.

If you want to start a thread on that then feel free. I'll even promise not to hijack it with guessing your identity or ulterior motives.

As it is, this thread is about an attack that was violent and racist. There's a clue in the title. And about the media coverage (or lack of) compared to other attacks, as mentioned in the OP. Yes, I speculate about whether the media are driven by the ethnicities involved.

It's not about all brown people being bad, otherwise the title would be "Brown people are bad" and the OP wouldbe explaining why I think this. But I don't. And it isn't.


Alpinestars

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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SKP555 said:
Well I am quite likely to assume you mean "busted" for one of the two things I've been accused of.

I'm not responsible for reporting every mugging in the country. It sounds horrible and I hope they are caught and punished.

Neither the victims ethnicity nor the level of violence, nor the nature of the racial abuse are mentioned in the article, so if for example it was "give us your wallet you Irish git" then it's a step short of knocking someone into a freezing canal and blocking their path out. Deplorable, but a step short.

If you want to start a thread on that then feel free. I'll even promise not to hijack it with guessing your identity or ulterior motives.

As it is, this thread is about an attack that was violent and racist. There's a clue in the title. And about the media coverage (or lack of) compared to other attacks, as mentioned in the OP. Yes, I speculate about whether the media are driven by the ethnicities involved.

It's not about all brown people being bad, otherwise the title would be "Brown people are bad" and the OP wouldbe explaining why I think this. But I don't. And it isn't.
Obfuscation.

You're posting history doesn't support your last point. Keep it up though, it always easy fodder finding holes in your "logic".

SKP555

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Mark
Yes it casts an interesting light on some people that they assume everyone goes around inventing hate crimes for political advantage. But sadly that sort of behaviour is not unknown.

Alpine
Obfuscating what exactly? I've broken down the thread bit by bit.

You think I'm someone else. Fine. Report it or deal with it. I don't care.

You think I hate brown people. Fine. Think that if you like. I will obviously say I don't. Because I don't. Is it even relevant?

Anything else?

SKP555

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And while we're psycho analysing Alpine, your insistence on seeing everything through a prism of brown people versus white people is quite telling. I didn't even mention skin colour in the OP.

SpeedMattersNot

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196 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Why post this topic?

SKP555

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SpeedMattersNot said:
Why post this topic?
Why post any topic?

I felt it deserved a wider audience and discussion than it got.

Alpinestars

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244 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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SKP555 said:
And while we're psycho analysing Alpine, your insistence on seeing everything through a prism of brown people versus white people is quite telling. I didn't even mention skin colour in the OP.
You're even more intellectually challenged than I give you credit for.

SKP555

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Alpinestars said:
You're even more intellectually challenged than I give you credit for.
High praise indeed.

Alpinestars

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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SKP555 said:
Alpinestars said:
You're even more intellectually challenged than I give you credit for.
High praise indeed.
Let me help you a touch, consider it munificence.

SKP555 said:
And would this be getting different coverage if the ethnic backgrounds were reversed?
I'll give you another clue. YOU brought up race - in your OP. Does that help?


kurt535

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117 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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SKP555 said:
And while we're psycho analysing Alpine, your insistence on seeing everything through a prism of brown people versus white people is quite telling. I didn't even mention skin colour in the OP.
SKP555. You need to calm down.

We had people just like you in the barracks - they'd always end up getting seven dials kicked the fk out of them in a fight on a Saturday night but swear blind they didn't start. Always innocent...... and always wanting to argue their innocence.........

SKP555

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Alpine
In relation to media coverage, as oer your quote. Nothing to do with evil brown people.

Kurt
I'm calm thanks. What are you actually talking about?

Alpinestars

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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SKP555 said:
Alpine
In relation to media coverage, as oer your quote. Nothing to do with evil brown people.

Kurt
I'm calm thanks. Even though I'm obviously nowhere near as well ard as you bruv.
Oh stop squirming like a little maggot. You brought up race. The whole point of your post was to highlight the race of the perpetrators because that's far more important to you than the crime. It has nothing at all to do with press coverage because there are other cases you could have picked which are also not all over whatever daily rag/websites you get your feeds from. Everyone but you sees this.

There are brown, black, yellow, pink, white and any other colour you care to think of, scum bags, who assault others on the basis of race. They come in all flavours. If you're trying to prove a press cover up of racism against a particular race, your evidence needs to be a whole lot better. And maybe don't bring your own bias to the party.

SKP555

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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I'm not squirming at all.

Maybe there are similar or worse attacks. Feel free to post them.

This seems like an especially nasty one which received especially little coverage. Hence the thread.

And yes I think that had the ethnicities been reversed the coverage would have been different, and that also warrants discussion.

What part of that means I have anything against brown people?

Alpinestars

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Tuesday 24th January 2017
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SKP555 said:
I'm not squirming at all.

bks.

Maybe there are similar or worse attacks. Feel free to post them.

I have.

This seems like an especially nasty one which received especially little coverage. Hence the thread.

It was nasty. Probably no worse than many others.

And yes I think that had the ethnicities been reversed the coverage would have been different, and that also warrants discussion.

I don't care what someone like you thinks. Post facts.

What part of that means I have anything against brown people?

Where did I mention that you did? I've not mentioned brown people, other than my last post. Feel free to correct me.
See above.