Article 50 ruling due now
Discussion
Mrr T said:
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Never bothered about a residency card, not needed, or UK citizenship, she can travel anywhere I can....
Never bothered about a residency card, not needed, or UK citizenship, she can travel anywhere I can....
Government website said:
... You can apply for a residence card card or derivative residence card to confirm your right of residence. You don’t have to apply but it will make it easier to prove your right to live and work in the UK...
Personally I would never assume anything or leave anything to chance. If you're dependent on the good will of a host, you cover the eventualities.
MrrT said:
... However, the UK government changed the rules in 2016, they did not make clear the nature of the change, and no one picked it up. The change was subsequently challenged in court but lost.
This means my wife can no longer even get a residency card before brexit.
The problem is the UK government clearly hates housewives.
www.freemovement.org.uk/eu-nationals-must-apply-fo...
This and similar links suggest differently, unless you've both not been permanently resident in the UK for 5yrs? On what grounds are you being refused? (Assuming an application has actually been made?).
Mrr T said:
Met 12 years ago when I was working in her native country (EU).
When I moved back to the UK about a year later she accompanied me. We married a year later.
Never bothered about a residency card, not needed, or UK citizenship, she can travel anywhere I can.
Other than accompanying me on a couple of short term assignment lived in the UK since.
However, the UK government changed the rules in 2016, they did not make clear the nature of the change, and no one picked it up. The change was subsequently challenged in court but lost.
This means my wife can no longer even get a residency card before brexit.
The problem is the UK government clearly hates housewives.
I'm sorry but I can't see why your wife can't get a residency card before Brexit. According to what you have said above she has been in the UK and married to you for ten years so there should be no issue. When I moved back to the UK about a year later she accompanied me. We married a year later.
Never bothered about a residency card, not needed, or UK citizenship, she can travel anywhere I can.
Other than accompanying me on a couple of short term assignment lived in the UK since.
However, the UK government changed the rules in 2016, they did not make clear the nature of the change, and no one picked it up. The change was subsequently challenged in court but lost.
This means my wife can no longer even get a residency card before brexit.
The problem is the UK government clearly hates housewives.
The link here shows she can get a permanent residence card very easily. Once she has this she can apply immediately for UK citizenship as she has been in the UK for more than six years and is married to a British citizen (see final paragraph of the link here).
turbobloke said:
Yay 
Due to his radio silence I think we can also assume Slasher's ban is confirmed
WinstonWolf said:
turbobloke said:
Yay Due to his radio silence I think we can also assume Slasher's ban is confirmed
Burwood said:
WinstonWolf said:
turbobloke said:
Yay Due to his radio silence I think we can also assume Slasher's ban is confirmed
WinstonWolf said:
Burwood said:
WinstonWolf said:
turbobloke said:
Yay Due to his radio silence I think we can also assume Slasher's ban is confirmed
mybrainhurts said:
WinstonWolf said:
Burwood said:
WinstonWolf said:
turbobloke said:
Yay Due to his radio silence I think we can also assume Slasher's ban is confirmed
Burwood said:
mybrainhurts said:
WinstonWolf said:
Burwood said:
WinstonWolf said:
turbobloke said:
Yay Due to his radio silence I think we can also assume Slasher's ban is confirmed
Murph7355 said:
Mrr T said:
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Never bothered about a residency card, not needed, or UK citizenship, she can travel anywhere I can....
Never bothered about a residency card, not needed, or UK citizenship, she can travel anywhere I can....
Government website said:
... You can apply for a residence card card or derivative residence card to confirm your right of residence. You don’t have to apply but it will make it easier to prove your right to live and work in the UK...
Personally I would never assume anything or leave anything to chance. If you're dependent on the good will of a host, you cover the eventualities.
MrrT said:
... However, the UK government changed the rules in 2016, they did not make clear the nature of the change, and no one picked it up. The change was subsequently challenged in court but lost.
This means my wife can no longer even get a residency card before brexit.
The problem is the UK government clearly hates housewives.
www.freemovement.org.uk/eu-nationals-must-apply-fo...
This and similar links suggest differently, unless you've both not been permanently resident in the UK for 5yrs? On what grounds are you being refused? (Assuming an application has actually been made?).
A EU citizen living in the UK can get 3 levels of status in the UK.
1. A Residency Card
2. After 5 years a Permanent Residency Card
3. After 5 years and if you have a Permanent Residency Card and meet other criteria Citizenship.
1 and 2 have no real legal status and are not needed.
When the law changed in 2015 (my error I typed 2016) not only did you now need a Permanent Residency Card to apply for Citizenship they sneaked in another change. If you were an EU immigrant in the UK and where exercising your right as self-sufficient. To apply for a Residency Card you needed either an EHIC from your original country, or to have comprehensive health insurance and for a Permanent Card to have this for 5 years. Nobody was aware of the changes until the Home Office started refusing cards.
As I said my wife had an EHIC from her original country but it was lost long ago, and as a UK resident she cannot get another. Indeed, she now has one from the UK.
So I have taken out comprehensive medical insurance for her, despite the fact she is legally entitled to NHS care, and she is covered by my work private health insurance and we are applying for a Residency Card.
However, I cannot apply for a Permanent Residency Card for 5 years.
I hope the Residency Card will be sufficient.
I am lucky I can afford private medical insurance if you look at the evidence to the HOL on EU citizens in the UK there is a submission from someone in a similar position. Their problem is it’s not a wife but their mother, and because of her age comprehensive medical cover is just not an option.
It is a tough situation MrrT, but as others have said, not applying for permanent residency anywhere that you've lived for so long is gambling that rules and regulations will not alter. To an extent, you have my sympathy, but on the other hand, you have to understand how and why the UK government has acted?
Digga said:
It is a tough situation MrrT, but as others have said, not applying for permanent residency anywhere that you've lived for so long is gambling that rules and regulations will not alter. To an extent, you have my sympathy, but on the other hand, you have to understand how and why the UK government has acted?
Quite, someone comes to the UK, doesn't work or pay any tax for 10 years, it's not really a surprise that they may be treated differently one way or another at some point is it.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff