Article 50 ruling due now

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mackay45

832 posts

172 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Yipper said:
Brexit and A50 are actually turning out pretty good.
Apologies for selective quoting but seeing as A50 was only triggered about an hour ago don't you think it's probably a bit early to be able to say that at this stage?

Until we know the terms of the deal there is too much uncertainty at this stage to know what it'll mean for the UK in my opinion.

B'stard Child

28,444 posts

247 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Piersman2 said:
There should also be an acknowledgement from the EU that this is probably in their own long term interests as well. The UK has never been a totally committed member of the union, we've never gone through the same experiences as our European neighbours, the horrors of invasion, subjegation and total dictatorial rule of an invading force (at least not in modern times before anyone starts arguing the toss of 1066 and all that).

I was in Poland a few years back and by accident stumbled upon a street display marking the horrors that had befallen some of the local villages under Nazi rule. Britain never experienced anything like that, we've always had the sea to protect us so we cannot understand the strength of support in mainland Europe to look for an alternative, to be governed as one entity rather than again have the potential to be at war with their immediate neighbours.

And the UK has only ever put the brakes on this, been a thorn; our leaving should be seen by the EU as a chance to take their project on to the next level with a true federalisation of mainland Europe now more of a possibility.
^ 100% this - lets get along but go in different directions because the federalisation of mainland Europe is the only way to deal with the PIGS debt long term

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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techiedave said:
I caught Natalie Bennet on Andrew Neils programme just now.
One question?
WHY ?
Why do they give this useless hopeless woman airtime
Workers rights. They are all going to disappear now we've left the EU. Least, that's what she said without anyone asking her exactly how and why.

PH XKR

1,761 posts

103 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Before 1992, we had some of the best workers rights so I doubt we will turn to America soon. In fact, thanks to eu regulation we now have worse rights due to loopholes being exploited as the regs make it difficult for employers.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Piersman2 said:
There should also be an acknowledgement from the EU that this is probably in their own long term interests as well. The UK has never been a totally committed member of the union, we've never gone through the same experiences as our European neighbours, the horrors of invasion, subjegation and total dictatorial rule of an invading force (at least not in modern times before anyone starts arguing the toss of 1066 and all that).

I was in Poland a few years back and by accident stumbled upon a street display marking the horrors that had befallen some of the local villages under Nazi rule. Britain never experienced anything like that, we've always had the sea to protect us so we cannot understand the strength of support in mainland Europe to look for an alternative, to be governed as one entity rather than again have the potential to be at war with their immediate neighbours.

And the UK has only ever put the brakes on this, been a thorn; our leaving should be seen by the EU as a chance to take their project on to the next level with a true federalisation of mainland Europe now more of a possibility.
Channel Islands were not only occupied Alderney actually had a concentration camp.


I think true federalisation plans, army the whole works, will now be fastracked, if for no other reason but to lock the remaining 27 further inside and make it harder to leave.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Deptford Draylons said:
techiedave said:
I caught Natalie Bennet on Andrew Neils programme just now.
One question?
WHY ?
Why do they give this useless hopeless woman airtime
Workers rights. They are all going to disappear now we've left the EU. Least, that's what she said without anyone asking her exactly how and why.
She really is a waste of space and full of empty soundbites.

paulrockliffe

15,718 posts

228 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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danllama said:
Really enjoying PMQ's, May is impressive once she's in her stride.
Yes, I was critical of her over Brexit on here because she appeared to put party loyalty above her principles. I understand that, though I don't respect it. Since becoming PM, she's risen beyond that and been extremely impressive at every turn.

If you want to understand the current gulf between parties you only have to contrast this speech with the response that said little more than calling Boris Johnson fat.

Murph7355

37,760 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Wing Commander said:


Tusk doesn't look a happy chappy, probably exacerbated by Barrow's smugness!
It's actually Rubens Barrichello wondering why a bearded guy is delivering him letters. Especially when divorce was mentioned.

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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mybrainhurts said:
///ajd said:
Many are deeply embarrassed by this little englander mentality. Ironically it is the opposite of what really put Great into Britain. They are - quite literally - very much Little Britain!
Great Britain is nothing to do with greatness and everything to do with geography.

Do your homework before you open your mouth and you won't look like a dick.

HTH...
or put HTH at the end of a post and remove all doubt

I'll assume you approve of posting images of churchill and union jacks.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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paulrockliffe said:
danllama said:
Really enjoying PMQ's, May is impressive once she's in her stride.
Yes, I was critical of her over Brexit on here because she appeared to put party loyalty above her principles. I understand that, though I don't respect it. Since becoming PM, she's risen beyond that and been extremely impressive at every turn.

If you want to understand the current gulf between parties you only have to contrast this speech with the response that said little more than calling Boris Johnson fat.
I thought Corbyn's speech was utterly uncouth.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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///ajd said:
mybrainhurts said:
///ajd said:
Many are deeply embarrassed by this little englander mentality. Ironically it is the opposite of what really put Great into Britain. They are - quite literally - very much Little Britain!
Great Britain is nothing to do with greatness and everything to do with geography.

Do your homework before you open your mouth and you won't look like a dick.

HTH...
or put HTH at the end of a post and remove all doubt

I'll assume you approve of posting images of churchill and union jacks.
Interesting how you didn't dispute "looking like a dick".

I personally prefer other posters than the one of Churchill. More modern ones that better demonstrate our multicultural and growing society along with another great man on it.

hornetrider

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63,161 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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hornetrider said:


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I think she needs to work on her penmanship hehe

vsonix

3,858 posts

164 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Chicken Chaser said:
I've been no fan of May, but shes starting to win me over....slowly. It was a strong speech.
Meh. Speech is just speech. Anyone can make the right noises but can they follow it up with the appropriate action? 'Building a fairer Britain' yadda yadda - only fair if you don't need the NHS or any disability benefit, I suppose.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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vsonix said:
Meh. Speech is just speech. Anyone can make the right noises but can they follow it up with the appropriate action? 'Building a fairer Britain' yadda yadda - only fair if you don't need the NHS or any disability benefit, I suppose.
Indeed, words are cheap and hers often wrong.

How many times did she state MP's would not get a vote on triggering A50?

skahigh

2,023 posts

132 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
How many times did she state MP's would not get a vote on triggering A50?
Err, none? I don't remember her ruling that out? confused

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Wobbegong said:
FiF said:
HiVac said:
WinstonWolf said:
///ajd said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
Cold said:
Sir Tim Barrow has entered the (Europa) building.
Hopefully wearing a union Jack tie or at least socks.
He was going to parachute from a spitfire with a bulldog in tow.

But had to settle for being dropped off outside by a white van with a pitbull on the passenger seat.

(taken from daily mash)
Who do you think you are kidding Mr Juncker If you think old Britain's done .....?
Techie Dave mode on

You'd have thought she'd have worn Ginger Spice's old frock.

Techie Dave mode off.


Sorry about that, mind bleach available to order.
She wanted to but Mrs Abbott is wearing it


(Should help your mind bleach sales.....viva Brexit!)
i really shouldn't quote this, it means Slasher has to keep seeing it. Whoops.

deadslow

8,009 posts

224 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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now that Art 50 is triggered, should we not be making an absolutely massive investment in education and infrastructure to build for the future?

p1stonhead

25,568 posts

168 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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A bit punchy don't you think!?

"should Britain seek to negotiate any free trade deals with other countries while it is still an EU member state, there will be no future discussion of a deal with the union."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/29/f...


PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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deadslow said:
now that Art 50 is triggered, should we not be making an absolutely massive investment in education and infrastructure to build for the future?
With what?

We have no money.