Article 50 ruling due now
Discussion
Yipper said:
Brexit and A50 are actually turning out pretty good.
Apologies for selective quoting but seeing as A50 was only triggered about an hour ago don't you think it's probably a bit early to be able to say that at this stage?Until we know the terms of the deal there is too much uncertainty at this stage to know what it'll mean for the UK in my opinion.
Piersman2 said:
There should also be an acknowledgement from the EU that this is probably in their own long term interests as well. The UK has never been a totally committed member of the union, we've never gone through the same experiences as our European neighbours, the horrors of invasion, subjegation and total dictatorial rule of an invading force (at least not in modern times before anyone starts arguing the toss of 1066 and all that).
I was in Poland a few years back and by accident stumbled upon a street display marking the horrors that had befallen some of the local villages under Nazi rule. Britain never experienced anything like that, we've always had the sea to protect us so we cannot understand the strength of support in mainland Europe to look for an alternative, to be governed as one entity rather than again have the potential to be at war with their immediate neighbours.
And the UK has only ever put the brakes on this, been a thorn; our leaving should be seen by the EU as a chance to take their project on to the next level with a true federalisation of mainland Europe now more of a possibility.
^ 100% this - lets get along but go in different directions because the federalisation of mainland Europe is the only way to deal with the PIGS debt long termI was in Poland a few years back and by accident stumbled upon a street display marking the horrors that had befallen some of the local villages under Nazi rule. Britain never experienced anything like that, we've always had the sea to protect us so we cannot understand the strength of support in mainland Europe to look for an alternative, to be governed as one entity rather than again have the potential to be at war with their immediate neighbours.
And the UK has only ever put the brakes on this, been a thorn; our leaving should be seen by the EU as a chance to take their project on to the next level with a true federalisation of mainland Europe now more of a possibility.
techiedave said:
I caught Natalie Bennet on Andrew Neils programme just now.
One question?
WHY ?
Why do they give this useless hopeless woman airtime
Workers rights. They are all going to disappear now we've left the EU. Least, that's what she said without anyone asking her exactly how and why. One question?
WHY ?
Why do they give this useless hopeless woman airtime
Piersman2 said:
There should also be an acknowledgement from the EU that this is probably in their own long term interests as well. The UK has never been a totally committed member of the union, we've never gone through the same experiences as our European neighbours, the horrors of invasion, subjegation and total dictatorial rule of an invading force (at least not in modern times before anyone starts arguing the toss of 1066 and all that).
I was in Poland a few years back and by accident stumbled upon a street display marking the horrors that had befallen some of the local villages under Nazi rule. Britain never experienced anything like that, we've always had the sea to protect us so we cannot understand the strength of support in mainland Europe to look for an alternative, to be governed as one entity rather than again have the potential to be at war with their immediate neighbours.
And the UK has only ever put the brakes on this, been a thorn; our leaving should be seen by the EU as a chance to take their project on to the next level with a true federalisation of mainland Europe now more of a possibility.
Channel Islands were not only occupied Alderney actually had a concentration camp.I was in Poland a few years back and by accident stumbled upon a street display marking the horrors that had befallen some of the local villages under Nazi rule. Britain never experienced anything like that, we've always had the sea to protect us so we cannot understand the strength of support in mainland Europe to look for an alternative, to be governed as one entity rather than again have the potential to be at war with their immediate neighbours.
And the UK has only ever put the brakes on this, been a thorn; our leaving should be seen by the EU as a chance to take their project on to the next level with a true federalisation of mainland Europe now more of a possibility.
I think true federalisation plans, army the whole works, will now be fastracked, if for no other reason but to lock the remaining 27 further inside and make it harder to leave.
Deptford Draylons said:
techiedave said:
I caught Natalie Bennet on Andrew Neils programme just now.
One question?
WHY ?
Why do they give this useless hopeless woman airtime
Workers rights. They are all going to disappear now we've left the EU. Least, that's what she said without anyone asking her exactly how and why. One question?
WHY ?
Why do they give this useless hopeless woman airtime
danllama said:
Really enjoying PMQ's, May is impressive once she's in her stride.
Yes, I was critical of her over Brexit on here because she appeared to put party loyalty above her principles. I understand that, though I don't respect it. Since becoming PM, she's risen beyond that and been extremely impressive at every turn.If you want to understand the current gulf between parties you only have to contrast this speech with the response that said little more than calling Boris Johnson fat.
mybrainhurts said:
///ajd said:
Many are deeply embarrassed by this little englander mentality. Ironically it is the opposite of what really put Great into Britain. They are - quite literally - very much Little Britain!
Great Britain is nothing to do with greatness and everything to do with geography.Do your homework before you open your mouth and you won't look like a dick.
HTH...
I'll assume you approve of posting images of churchill and union jacks.
paulrockliffe said:
danllama said:
Really enjoying PMQ's, May is impressive once she's in her stride.
Yes, I was critical of her over Brexit on here because she appeared to put party loyalty above her principles. I understand that, though I don't respect it. Since becoming PM, she's risen beyond that and been extremely impressive at every turn.If you want to understand the current gulf between parties you only have to contrast this speech with the response that said little more than calling Boris Johnson fat.
///ajd said:
mybrainhurts said:
///ajd said:
Many are deeply embarrassed by this little englander mentality. Ironically it is the opposite of what really put Great into Britain. They are - quite literally - very much Little Britain!
Great Britain is nothing to do with greatness and everything to do with geography.Do your homework before you open your mouth and you won't look like a dick.
HTH...
I'll assume you approve of posting images of churchill and union jacks.
I personally prefer other posters than the one of Churchill. More modern ones that better demonstrate our multicultural and growing society along with another great man on it.
Chicken Chaser said:
I've been no fan of May, but shes starting to win me over....slowly. It was a strong speech.
Meh. Speech is just speech. Anyone can make the right noises but can they follow it up with the appropriate action? 'Building a fairer Britain' yadda yadda - only fair if you don't need the NHS or any disability benefit, I suppose. vsonix said:
Meh. Speech is just speech. Anyone can make the right noises but can they follow it up with the appropriate action? 'Building a fairer Britain' yadda yadda - only fair if you don't need the NHS or any disability benefit, I suppose.
Indeed, words are cheap and hers often wrong.How many times did she state MP's would not get a vote on triggering A50?
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Cold said:
Sir Tim Barrow has entered the (Europa) building.
Hopefully wearing a union Jack tie or at least socks. But had to settle for being dropped off outside by a white van with a pitbull on the passenger seat.
(taken from daily mash)
You'd have thought she'd have worn Ginger Spice's old frock.
Techie Dave mode off.
Sorry about that, mind bleach available to order.
(Should help your mind bleach sales.....viva Brexit!)
A bit punchy don't you think!?
"should Britain seek to negotiate any free trade deals with other countries while it is still an EU member state, there will be no future discussion of a deal with the union."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/29/f...
"should Britain seek to negotiate any free trade deals with other countries while it is still an EU member state, there will be no future discussion of a deal with the union."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/29/f...
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