Article 50 ruling due now
Discussion
johnxjsc1985 said:
Wonder if the EU had wished they had been a little more accommodating to Dave when he tried to get some more goodies to offer the British electorate.
Why? Leavers did vote to leave because of lies and not-so-right-money-numbers and immigrants and blah blah. Brexit would happened anyway. Murph7355 said:
deadslow said:
ok chap, still in denial I see, no probs, am oot 
Remind us who was in power in 2008.Remind us how long they had been there before that point (you may struggle as it's more than 10. Though you sound like you may have 11 toes so maybe not).
Remind us who completely screwed up banking controls in that same period.
Remind us which political supporters still seem to be able to blame Thatcher for everything after Hitler topped himself.
Remind us of the scale of the actual losses due to banking thus far.
He saved the world! THE WORLD!
johnxjsc1985 said:
Wonder if the EU had wished they had been a little more accommodating to Dave when he tried to get some more goodies to offer the British electorate.
Problem being that call me Dave was pro europe,and felt confident we would vote to stay.Had we sent a pro brexit minister to negotiate with a 'we can and will leave' attitude the Europeans may have taken our demands a bit more seriously and possibly offered some concessions. Would they have been enough? It was such a tight vote who knows.
bristolracer said:
Problem being that call me Dave was pro europe,and felt confident we would vote to stay.
Had we sent a pro brexit minister to negotiate with a 'we can and will leave' attitude the Europeans may have taken our demands a bit more seriously and possibly offered some concessions. Would they have been enough? It was such a tight vote who knows.
the way the blanked Dave upset a lot of people. Even though he was a toad he was our toad. Had we sent a pro brexit minister to negotiate with a 'we can and will leave' attitude the Europeans may have taken our demands a bit more seriously and possibly offered some concessions. Would they have been enough? It was such a tight vote who knows.
I've spent the day in Brussels in the Commission at a workshop on the forthcoming prospectus regulation (exciting, eh? It is important to me).
The British, as ever, contributed the most and were the most frank. There was nothing but appreciation from the Commission and representatives of other Member States. One Dutchman said that, even if we had no future deal with the EU, they'd want us contributing to the EU legislation debates because we have most of the financial services expertise.
I hope this is a sign that the negotiations will be sensible, friendly and productive.
The British, as ever, contributed the most and were the most frank. There was nothing but appreciation from the Commission and representatives of other Member States. One Dutchman said that, even if we had no future deal with the EU, they'd want us contributing to the EU legislation debates because we have most of the financial services expertise.
I hope this is a sign that the negotiations will be sensible, friendly and productive.
LasseV said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
Wonder if the EU had wished they had been a little more accommodating to Dave when he tried to get some more goodies to offer the British electorate.
Why? Leavers did vote to leave because of lies and not-so-right-money-numbers and immigrants and blah blah. Brexit would happened anyway. I can see it all starting full of bonhomie with an agreement that expats from both sides will be allowed to stay then it'll go downhill rapidly for about 18 months and then everyone will come to their senses and thrash out a mutually acceptable deal.
At the end of the day money talks
At the end of the day money talks
Zod said:
I've spent the day in Brussels in the Commission at a workshop on the forthcoming prospectus regulation (exciting, eh? It is important to me).
The British, as ever, contributed the most and were the most frank. There was nothing but appreciation from the Commission and representatives of other Member States. One Dutchman said that, even if we had no future deal with the EU, they'd want us contributing to the EU legislation debates because we have most of the financial services expertise.
I hope this is a sign that the negotiations will be sensible, friendly and productive.
Question for you Zod - was there anyone from Switzerland at the meeting?The British, as ever, contributed the most and were the most frank. There was nothing but appreciation from the Commission and representatives of other Member States. One Dutchman said that, even if we had no future deal with the EU, they'd want us contributing to the EU legislation debates because we have most of the financial services expertise.
I hope this is a sign that the negotiations will be sensible, friendly and productive.
Henners said:
Murph7355 said:
deadslow said:
ok chap, still in denial I see, no probs, am oot
Remind us who was in power in 2008.Remind us how long they had been there before that point (you may struggle as it's more than 10. Though you sound like you may have 11 toes so maybe not).
Remind us who completely screwed up banking controls in that same period.
Remind us which political supporters still seem to be able to blame Thatcher for everything after Hitler topped himself.
Remind us of the scale of the actual losses due to banking thus far.
He saved the world! THE WORLD!
SKP555 said:
MrBrightSi said:
Thorodin said:
Considering the tone of the UK letter of intent, the reply shows the breadth and depth of the hostile animosity to any who dare to invoke their basic rights of self-determination. If that cobblers is indicative of their true feeling it falls rather short of encouraging the remaining 27 to stay in. We should just call the bluff and walk away until they get real or the pressures of time persuade them to focus on a more achievable outcome. Better still, just send them a link to Andrew Neill's piece last Friday.
I don't understand where all this animosity comes from.We are a huge domestic market, we buy a large share of European goods from cars to electronics. I cannot see how business self-interest would allow such a spiteful response to happen.
ked. Get your popcorn guys!SKP555 said:
MrBrightSi said:
Thorodin said:
Considering the tone of the UK letter of intent, the reply shows the breadth and depth of the hostile animosity to any who dare to invoke their basic rights of self-determination. If that cobblers is indicative of their true feeling it falls rather short of encouraging the remaining 27 to stay in. We should just call the bluff and walk away until they get real or the pressures of time persuade them to focus on a more achievable outcome. Better still, just send them a link to Andrew Neill's piece last Friday.
I don't understand where all this animosity comes from.We are a huge domestic market, we buy a large share of European goods from cars to electronics. I cannot see how business self-interest would allow such a spiteful response to happen.
ked. Get your popcorn guys!Burwood said:
Hits nail on head. They made a huge mistake not at least negotiating with Cameron and they will rinse and repeat. When France goes and it will, they are fked. Get your popcorn guys!
I doubt France will leave the EU. The only way that seems possible is if Le Pen wins the presidential election and that seems pretty unlikely based on the polling.ked. Get your popcorn guys!skahigh said:
Burwood said:
Hits nail on head. They made a huge mistake not at least negotiating with Cameron and they will rinse and repeat. When France goes and it will, they are fked. Get your popcorn guys!
I doubt France will leave the EU. The only way that seems possible is if Le Pen wins the presidential election and that seems pretty unlikely based on the polling.ked. Get your popcorn guys!Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff