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sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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B'stard Child said:
I thought you were leaving???

LasseV's flounce
rofl

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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LasseV said:
No, i don't work for EU. I'm just a EU citizen who thinks that everyone should know basic things.
The 'truth' according to the EU!
biggrin

Pan Pan Pan

9,928 posts

112 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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BlackLabel said:
She's back.

bloomberg said:
Gina Miller May Consider New Lawsuit Over Great Repeal Bill

Gina Miller, who brought the lawsuit that forced U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May to get parliamentary approval for her Brexit plans, may file another legal challenge -- this time over May’s bid to take control over thousands of European Union laws.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2017-03-30/gina-miller-may-consider-new-lawsuit-over-great-repeal-bill
Given the legal challenges, and anti Brexit debate and protests, regarding the result of the 2016 UK/EU referendum, it is quite possible that the 1975 referendum which took the UK into the EU via the EEC was illegal. Not a single person in the UK voted to join the EU, they voted to join the EEC, which is a completely different construct to the EU. The fact that the EEC decided to change `itself' into the EU in 1993 without asking the people of the various member states extant then, could mean that the whole EU shambles is illegal.
I wonder if there is a statute on such machinations, and even now, whether it would be possible to mount a legal challenge to the UK`s membership of the EU, on the grounds of the duplicitous way it was sucked into the EU, without the consent of the people of the UK.
For many the way that was done is precisely the reason why they voted out in the 2016 referendum.
If someone like Gina Miller can come into the UK and mount a legal challenge to the 2016 referendum, it ought to be possible to launch a legal case against the UK`s EU membership right from 1993.

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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IanH755 said:
Zod said:
KrissKross said:
What stuff, genuinely interested to know?
EU financial services regulation that will continue to apply to us after we leave the EU.

Have you heard of the Great Repeal Bill that will transpose all EU legislation into English law?
Where, once they become our Law, they can be repealed, amended or just left as is. The main point being they will be "our" laws, not EU ones, so we will be able to decide how best to use them for the specific needs of our country.

One very minor example was the banning of using imperial weight units during selling, an EU law which only effected our country, which could be repealed allowing Fruit/Veg sellers to show both metric & imperial weights again. The impact of a repeal would be very minimal but, as a country which still uses both units of measure in everyday situations, it would be an easy win to show how we're removing "silly" EU rules which bring no benefit to the UK.
Yes, and we will amend it gradually to deal with the worst bits, but in areas like financial services we will have to be careful to maintain equivalence, assuming we have a deal with the EU. That doesn't mean blindly accepting everything they pas romulgate, but it does mean continuing to work with them to try to keep their legislation sensible as possible. You would not believe the crap that comes out of the Parliament.

danllama

5,728 posts

143 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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hyphen said:
Brexit only happened as high profile Tories and a few Labour were leading the campaign?
Do you actually believe this? You really think British people are that easily lead? That fickle? Really...

B'stard Child

28,447 posts

247 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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LasseV said:
B'stard Child said:
Funny answer to the question - let me try it again.....

I thought you asked for your account to be deleted?
And?
A poster a while back was right - you really do have a problem with English

Good job there is google translate biggrin

Luulin pyytänyt tilisi poistetaan?

I realise that possibly may say your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberry

But just in case I ran that thro google translate and I think I'm OK

äitisi oli hamsteri ja isäsi haisi seljapensas


LasseV

1,754 posts

134 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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B'stard Child said:
A poster a while back was right - you really do have a problem with English

Good job there is google translate biggrin

Luulin pyytänyt tilisi poistetaan?

I realise that possibly may say your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberry

But just in case I ran that thro google translate and I think I'm OK

äitisi oli hamsteri ja isäsi haisi seljapensas
Oh, you are clever boy aren't you? However it's not your business and it doesn't have anything to do with this topic. So why you did bring it up?

B'stard Child

28,447 posts

247 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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LasseV said:
B'stard Child said:
A poster a while back was right - you really do have a problem with English

Good job there is google translate biggrin

Luulin pyytänyt tilisi poistetaan?

I realise that possibly may say your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberry

But just in case I ran that thro google translate and I think I'm OK

äitisi oli hamsteri ja isäsi haisi seljapensas
Oh, you are clever boy aren't you? However it's not your business and it doesn't have anything to do with this topic. So why you did bring it up?
In order

No - the internet is though

It was a question twice avoided with And?

It may or may not - I only have your word for it

Because normally when people ask for their account to be deleted in a flounce it happens very quickly after, but you are still here so I asked why? biggrin

LasseV

1,754 posts

134 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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B'stard Child said:
In order

No - the internet is though

It was a question twice avoided with And?

It may or may not - I only have your word for it

Because normally when people ask for their account to be deleted in a flounce it happens very quickly after, but you are still here so I asked why? biggrin
In order

No- the internet is not tough. Real world is.

It was irrelevant question avoided.

And last two: It is my own business and has nothing to do with this topic.

bobbylondonuk

2,199 posts

191 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Why exactly do we have to go through a laborious process of Divorce?

all EU laws & standards are British Law & standards once the Repeal Bill is passed. So as far as any future trade with EU is concerned, it is same as it was yesterday. the only thing left to confirm is the duty rates for each sector- either FTA or WTO

Divorce bill = 4 years net payments - 1/28 of net assets on EU balance sheet. = 4x£8.5bn - (-71bn euro/28) = £35bn ish. write that damn check and throw it at their faces...they can keep the change as well.


So now what is left? do they want out intelligence & military support? Do they want access to our markets? if so we get reciprocal access and co-operation.


And they can stay out of our fishing grounds & the spanish can fk off if they think they can take our rock. Its about time we showcase some British war machine display and sell some of it worldwide to make some hard cash.



What exactly is so complicated that the EU needs a decade to sort out?

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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LasseV said:
In order

No- the internet is not tough. Real world is.

It was irrelevant question avoided.

And last two: It is my own business and has nothing to do with this topic.
Another fail!

tough: 'able to endure hardship or pain'
though: 'despite the fact that, although'

Edited by sidicks on Friday 31st March 15:16

B'stard Child

28,447 posts

247 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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sidicks said:
LasseV said:
In order

No- the internet is not tough. Real world is.

It was irrelevant question avoided.

And last two: It is my own business and has nothing to do with this topic.
Another fail!

tough: 'able to endure hardship or pain'
though: 'despite the fact that, although'

Edited by sidicks on Friday 31st March 15:16
Ahhh that explains it - I took it to be a slur that I was being an internet tough guy - where in actual fact I wasn't biggrin



anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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sidicks said:
LasseV said:
In order

No- the internet is not tough. Real world is.

It was irrelevant question avoided.

And last two: It is my own business and has nothing to do with this topic.
Another fail!

tough: 'able to endure hardship or pain'
though: 'despite the fact that, although'

Edited by sidicks on Friday 31st March 15:16
hehe



catso

14,791 posts

268 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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bobbylondonuk said:
What exactly is so complicated that the EU needs a decade to sort out?
The problem with the leaving deal is that it will be done by Politicians, the same inept bunch of them that have been running the show thus far.

It matters not whether one lot is in charge or the other as they're all the same in the end, I'm not expecting much...

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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bobbylondonuk said:
1/28 of net assets on EU balance sheet.
But most of that 28 don't appear to have ever paid anything in, and most of the countries joined later on. So should the assets be distributed in that manner?

bobbylondonuk

2,199 posts

191 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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hyphen said:
bobbylondonuk said:
1/28 of net assets on EU balance sheet.
But most of that 28 don't appear to have ever paid anything in, and most of the countries joined later on. So should the assets be distributed in that manner?
As a Leaver, I dont care....its pocket change in the grand Scheme of things...And the Net Asset value is negative in the 2015 Balance Sheet, so it is not a question of what we get, it is a question of how much we have to pay. Let them keep the change and we can move on. Right now they have the power and the more reasons we give for discussion, the less time we have. so lets take out their best card immediately by paying up. Cash money up front, no more power for you.

It can be done very very quickly. All standards are same, divorce bill is paid in one single payment, all problems solved in 6 months.

Now lets move on to the trade deal for the future....this is where the UK consumer market access is wanted by all 28....they do not want to piss us off if they want their industries to keep being profitable. The power now turns in our favour.

Digga

40,349 posts

284 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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bobbylondonuk said:
As a Leaver, I dont care....its pocket change in the grand Scheme of things...And the Net Asset value is negative in the 2015 Balance Sheet, so it is not a question of what we get, it is a question of how much we have to pay. Let them keep the change and we can move on.
Agreed. The current approach to this element of the process is like spending time picking peanuts out of poo.

PH XKR

1,761 posts

103 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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sidicks said:
LasseV said:
In order

No- the internet is not tough. Real world is.

It was irrelevant question avoided.

And last two: It is my own business and has nothing to do with this topic.
Another fail!

tough: 'able to endure hardship or pain'
though: 'despite the fact that, although'

Edited by sidicks on Friday 31st March 15:16
give her a break, she is mid flounce

don'tbesilly

13,937 posts

164 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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PH XKR said:
sidicks said:
LasseV said:
In order

No- the internet is not tough. Real world is.

It was irrelevant question avoided.

And last two: It is my own business and has nothing to do with this topic.
Another fail!

tough: 'able to endure hardship or pain'
though: 'despite the fact that, although'

Edited by sidicks on Friday 31st March 15:16
give her a break, she is mid flounce
A 'her' you say.

No requests for a pic as of yet, so .............. in before the account self implodes.

B'stard Child

28,447 posts

247 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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PH XKR said:
sidicks said:
LasseV said:
In order

No- the internet is not tough. Real world is.

It was irrelevant question avoided.

And last two: It is my own business and has nothing to do with this topic.
Another fail!

tough: 'able to endure hardship or pain'
though: 'despite the fact that, although'

Edited by sidicks on Friday 31st March 15:16
give her a break, she is mid flounce
hehe

Never known a person request account delete and then not get deleted - esp when Big Al. sees the request - Normal reply after short discussion is

Done.