Planet Ocean - To Bond or not to Bond
Discussion
Hi, looking for a little input from those more in tune with the matter than I and please, excuse the slightly rambling post.
For clarity, I'm not in the line of work to have large bonuses landing in my direction to throw about and I do have a fair few financial commitments these days, mostly small human ones.
However, its my 40th soon and while I've never spent more than £400 on a watch, I've always fancied something a little bit, special.
A five figure spend is out the question but low/mid four is feasible. I justify that to SWMBO (and myself to an extent) on the basis that I'm not pissing the money up a wall and will actually have something to show for it which is nice and should last a long time.
Having spent a fair bit of time discovering I'm much more fastidious than I'd like to believe, I found myself looking at an Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean, stainless bracelet and black face, thinking "that one".
Then I stumbled across the limited (5007 pieces) Skyfall movie edition of exactly the same watch.
Now I liked the movie a lot, as I have most of the Daniel Craig era Bond movies and it was released the year I married so reminds me of a special time. I also like the relatively subtle differences on the watch itself and the fact there is a limit to the number of these ones around. I expect a themed version won't be to everyone's taste but I like it.
The issue I have is that the now pre owned limited edition ones already command an asking price of circa £5k if the papers/box are present (£4250 new), where the standard version retails at £4k new, before movement on price is discussed or alternative suppliers to a High St jewellers considered.
My fear is a dealer with no movement on price for the Skyfall version (only three or four UK wide for sale just now, one at least doesn't have any paperwork) against a Beaverbrooks/Goldsmiths branch desperate for a sale throwing a 15-20% discount at me, could see the price disparity at as much as £1800.
My questions are thus;
If you liked the ltd edition, do you think paying anything up to a third more against a new standard version is worthwhile?
Also, would you expect the piece to hold a degree of value at least as well as its standard counterpart?
My concern is I pay a premium now only for the residual value of the piece to plummet as the movie its associated with dates.
I thank you in advance for both taking the time to read this and for any informed input...
For clarity, I'm not in the line of work to have large bonuses landing in my direction to throw about and I do have a fair few financial commitments these days, mostly small human ones.
However, its my 40th soon and while I've never spent more than £400 on a watch, I've always fancied something a little bit, special.
A five figure spend is out the question but low/mid four is feasible. I justify that to SWMBO (and myself to an extent) on the basis that I'm not pissing the money up a wall and will actually have something to show for it which is nice and should last a long time.
Having spent a fair bit of time discovering I'm much more fastidious than I'd like to believe, I found myself looking at an Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean, stainless bracelet and black face, thinking "that one".
Then I stumbled across the limited (5007 pieces) Skyfall movie edition of exactly the same watch.
Now I liked the movie a lot, as I have most of the Daniel Craig era Bond movies and it was released the year I married so reminds me of a special time. I also like the relatively subtle differences on the watch itself and the fact there is a limit to the number of these ones around. I expect a themed version won't be to everyone's taste but I like it.
The issue I have is that the now pre owned limited edition ones already command an asking price of circa £5k if the papers/box are present (£4250 new), where the standard version retails at £4k new, before movement on price is discussed or alternative suppliers to a High St jewellers considered.
My fear is a dealer with no movement on price for the Skyfall version (only three or four UK wide for sale just now, one at least doesn't have any paperwork) against a Beaverbrooks/Goldsmiths branch desperate for a sale throwing a 15-20% discount at me, could see the price disparity at as much as £1800.
My questions are thus;
If you liked the ltd edition, do you think paying anything up to a third more against a new standard version is worthwhile?
Also, would you expect the piece to hold a degree of value at least as well as its standard counterpart?
My concern is I pay a premium now only for the residual value of the piece to plummet as the movie its associated with dates.
I thank you in advance for both taking the time to read this and for any informed input...
Man scrimps & save's hard to buy a 40th Birthday present
Probably tells SWMBO it'll be a once in a lifetime treat ...."please let me"
Then wonders at resale value ???
As someone who was in a sort of similar situation last year for my 50th (doesn't have money rolling out my arse) I have no regrets binning probably 50% of a 2.5k purchase price upon placing my 50th present on my wrist.
Life is too short to worry about what it'll be worth when your pensioner
Just get the watch you really really want
Probably tells SWMBO it'll be a once in a lifetime treat ...."please let me"
Then wonders at resale value ???
As someone who was in a sort of similar situation last year for my 50th (doesn't have money rolling out my arse) I have no regrets binning probably 50% of a 2.5k purchase price upon placing my 50th present on my wrist.
Life is too short to worry about what it'll be worth when your pensioner
Just get the watch you really really want
Thanks for the speedy input gents.
I'd be happy with either, I like the 007 version a little more, just not perhaps a third more thats my main sticking point.
The resale is less of an issue as it would be a keeper - I'd just be really pissed to see one for sale in three or four years for peanuts!
I'd be happy with either, I like the 007 version a little more, just not perhaps a third more thats my main sticking point.
The resale is less of an issue as it would be a keeper - I'd just be really pissed to see one for sale in three or four years for peanuts!
http://www.chrono24.co.uk/omega/skyfall-seamaster-...
And that's before you ask for any discount which, in my personal experience you always get with C24 sellers.
And that's before you ask for any discount which, in my personal experience you always get with C24 sellers.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
http://www.chrono24.co.uk/omega/skyfall-seamaster-...
And that's before you ask for any discount which, in my personal experience you always get with C24 sellers.
This one is on e-bay as well with VHB marking by the price which so far as I can make out means nearest offer. The lack of packaging or papers puts me off, though at least they are being up front from the outset and providing an authenticity document of their own.And that's before you ask for any discount which, in my personal experience you always get with C24 sellers.
cbmotorsport said:
Personally, I'd swerve the special editions and buy a normal one...but that's just me.
Go for the one you like! Go for the one that you'll look at and smile for years to come.
If resale is a concern, don't buy a PO. Buy a Rolex.
My thoughts exactly, I'd avoid the special editions as well.Go for the one you like! Go for the one that you'll look at and smile for years to come.
If resale is a concern, don't buy a PO. Buy a Rolex.
Buy a normal PO, and just enjoy it, or as said, if you want it to hold value to leave to the kids after your gone, buy a Rolex Sub (the original Bond watch
)Me 3!
I bought the normal large size one with orange numerals, got a decent 2nd hand price from Watchfinder so was quite pleased with the deal.
Was very tempted by the Bond specials but kinda felt once the novelty's worn off it might seem a bit naff.
The Liquid Metal was the only other one that's had me umming and aahing...!
Happy shopping...!
I bought the normal large size one with orange numerals, got a decent 2nd hand price from Watchfinder so was quite pleased with the deal.
Was very tempted by the Bond specials but kinda felt once the novelty's worn off it might seem a bit naff.
The Liquid Metal was the only other one that's had me umming and aahing...!
Happy shopping...!
Edited by aquarianone on Tuesday 31st January 17:12
I'm fgoing to sound like a prick in a second, i didnt mean to but I've deleted and retried this a few times.
I'd buy the one i want but then i can afford too. If cost is as strong a marker as it seems to be with you then you need to weigh up the extra £1800 and see what f its worth it for you. But at the same time look at similar watches that would be cheaper but have the same feel or a secondhand planet and cean as some real bargains to be had if your not too fussed about the co axial movement.
I'd buy the one i want but then i can afford too. If cost is as strong a marker as it seems to be with you then you need to weigh up the extra £1800 and see what f its worth it for you. But at the same time look at similar watches that would be cheaper but have the same feel or a secondhand planet and cean as some real bargains to be had if your not too fussed about the co axial movement.
aeropilot said:
My thoughts exactly, I'd avoid the special editions as well.
Buy a normal PO, and just enjoy it, or as said, if you want it to hold value to leave to the kids after your gone, buy a Rolex Sub (the original Bond watch)
Only no one knows that, it's never specified in the original books, it's just referred to as a Rolex.Buy a normal PO, and just enjoy it, or as said, if you want it to hold value to leave to the kids after your gone, buy a Rolex Sub (the original Bond watch
)ellroy said:
aeropilot said:
My thoughts exactly, I'd avoid the special editions as well.
Buy a normal PO, and just enjoy it, or as said, if you want it to hold value to leave to the kids after your gone, buy a Rolex Sub (the original Bond watch)
Only no one knows that, it's never specified in the original books, it's just referred to as a Rolex.Buy a normal PO, and just enjoy it, or as said, if you want it to hold value to leave to the kids after your gone, buy a Rolex Sub (the original Bond watch
)Sheetmaself said:
I'm fgoing to sound like a prick in a second, i didnt mean to but I've deleted and retried this a few times.
I'd buy the one i want but then i can afford too. If cost is as strong a marker as it seems to be with you then you need to weigh up the extra £1800 and see what f its worth it for you. But at the same time look at similar watches that would be cheaper but have the same feel or a secondhand planet and cean as some real bargains to be had if your not too fussed about the co axial movement.
Thanks for all the input guys - Not overly concerned if a poster were to come across as sounding like a prick (which you're not), I was looking for the opinions of watch aficionados and I'm grateful of honesty.I'd buy the one i want but then i can afford too. If cost is as strong a marker as it seems to be with you then you need to weigh up the extra £1800 and see what f its worth it for you. But at the same time look at similar watches that would be cheaper but have the same feel or a secondhand planet and cean as some real bargains to be had if your not too fussed about the co axial movement.
Less concerned at looking at other models, as said I liked the look of the PO before stumbling upon the 007 version. Certainly wasn't looking for something solely on the basis of its association with the fictional novel/movie character.
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