Abandoned Afghani translators.
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I spent an hour chatting to Simon Diggins this morning, after his appearance on the BBC, where he spoke of the plight of Afghani translators being refused entry to the UK. These men have worked alongside our soldiers, helped save a great many lives yet, now we no longer require their services, they are being refused entry to the UK despite their and their families lives being under threat. Surely they deserve to be allowed entry?
I heard this story on the radio 4 this morning and seemed tough on the person concerned.
The problem is that we only have the Afghani translators side of the story so it is very one-sided. I have come across Afghan families in the UK who have been given asylum and were not even translators, so I can only presume it has been judged that they are not in immediate danger and there is doubt over what they are claiming.
There will be exceptions where the asylum process will make a wrong decision, but I would trust that they are trying their best and most decisions will be correct.
Will be interesting to see what the investigation concludes.
The problem is that we only have the Afghani translators side of the story so it is very one-sided. I have come across Afghan families in the UK who have been given asylum and were not even translators, so I can only presume it has been judged that they are not in immediate danger and there is doubt over what they are claiming.
There will be exceptions where the asylum process will make a wrong decision, but I would trust that they are trying their best and most decisions will be correct.
Will be interesting to see what the investigation concludes.
Edited by hyphen on Tuesday 14th February 19:01
e21Mark said:
I spent an hour chatting to Simon Diggins this morning, after his appearance on the BBC, where he spoke of the plight of Afghani translators being refused entry to the UK. These men have worked alongside our soldiers, helped save a great many lives yet, now we no longer require their services, they are being refused entry to the UK despite their and their families lives being under threat. Surely they deserve to be allowed entry?
Do you have space in your house for them?Why should they be allowed entry?
They knew the risks when they took on the role and they were not given any assurances.
I don't dispute they are in danger but if that's the case they would leave Afghanistan and seek refuge in the nearest safe country. This is the way of the UN convention. If they do that then surely they would be granted asylum in that country. They will have passed through (or over) many safe countries that are signatories to the convention if they come here.
However, human decency would suggest that they should be allowed to come here but not just the UK they should be spread amongst the nations that used their services.
They knew the risks when they took on the role and they were not given any assurances.
I don't dispute they are in danger but if that's the case they would leave Afghanistan and seek refuge in the nearest safe country. This is the way of the UN convention. If they do that then surely they would be granted asylum in that country. They will have passed through (or over) many safe countries that are signatories to the convention if they come here.
However, human decency would suggest that they should be allowed to come here but not just the UK they should be spread amongst the nations that used their services.
These interpreters put their lives on the line to assist British, American and other western forces in their efforts to stabilise the country and evidence clearly suggests they are now being tracked down, and tortured or killed. Their role has a particularly symbolic value to the Taliban given that they acted essentially as the face and voice for Western forces and marked them out in the eyes of the Taliban as traitors to their country and as a priority target.
Some of these interpreters worked for as long as 7 years and helped save many British (and allied) lives. Many were also killed or injured whilst serving alongside our soldiers. I believe we are indebted to these people, as do the soldiers alongside whom they served.
Some of these interpreters worked for as long as 7 years and helped save many British (and allied) lives. Many were also killed or injured whilst serving alongside our soldiers. I believe we are indebted to these people, as do the soldiers alongside whom they served.
e21Mark said:
These interpreters put their lives on the line to assist British, American and other western forces in their efforts to stabilise the country and evidence clearly suggests they are now being tracked down, and tortured or killed. Their role has a particularly symbolic value to the Taliban given that they acted essentially as the face and voice for Western forces and marked them out in the eyes of the Taliban as traitors to their country and as a priority target.
Some of these interpreters worked for as long as 7 years and helped save many British (and allied) lives. Many were also killed or injured whilst serving alongside our soldiers. I believe we are indebted to these people, as do the soldiers alongside whom they served.
100% agree we need to look after our friends and allies , the Gurkas and the commonwealth people were another example of our goverments shameful way of doing things ... Some of these interpreters worked for as long as 7 years and helped save many British (and allied) lives. Many were also killed or injured whilst serving alongside our soldiers. I believe we are indebted to these people, as do the soldiers alongside whom they served.
Some on here might say "Islam is the no.1 religion of peace in the world. I'm sure the Taliban are forgiving people. They are most at risk of danger in the West amongst those evil white Christians."
I will say yes, give them permanent residency. All the terps I worked with were good people.
We should have an exchange program, 1 terp for 1 liberal. Then the liberals can inflict social justice on the Taliban. Everyone's a winner.
Who's in?
I will say yes, give them permanent residency. All the terps I worked with were good people.
We should have an exchange program, 1 terp for 1 liberal. Then the liberals can inflict social justice on the Taliban. Everyone's a winner.
Who's in?
5ohmustang said:
Some on here might say "Islam is the no.1 religion of peace in the world. I'm sure the Taliban are forgiving people. They are most at risk of danger in the West amongst those evil white Christians."
I will say yes, give them permanent residency. All the terps I worked with were good people.
We should have an exchange program, 1 terp for 1 liberal. Then the liberals can inflict social justice on the Taliban. Everyone's a winner.
Who's in?
I'm in where do I sign ??I will say yes, give them permanent residency. All the terps I worked with were good people.
We should have an exchange program, 1 terp for 1 liberal. Then the liberals can inflict social justice on the Taliban. Everyone's a winner.
Who's in?
craigjm said:
Why should they be allowed entry?
They knew the risks when they took on the role and they were not given any assurances.
I don't dispute they are in danger but if that's the case they would leave Afghanistan and seek refuge in the nearest safe country. This is the way of the UN convention. If they do that then surely they would be granted asylum in that country. They will have passed through (or over) many safe countries that are signatories to the convention if they come here.
However, human decency would suggest that they should be allowed to come here but not just the UK they should be spread amongst the nations that used their services.
If they worked with our guys out there. They can come here as far as I am concerned! And you wont often find me banging the drum for immigration. Irony is that unlike the uneducated "kids" who have been flooding across Europe in search of benefits. These Afghans are actually skilled in translating! They ARE employable!They knew the risks when they took on the role and they were not given any assurances.
I don't dispute they are in danger but if that's the case they would leave Afghanistan and seek refuge in the nearest safe country. This is the way of the UN convention. If they do that then surely they would be granted asylum in that country. They will have passed through (or over) many safe countries that are signatories to the convention if they come here.
However, human decency would suggest that they should be allowed to come here but not just the UK they should be spread amongst the nations that used their services.
e21Mark said:
I spent an hour chatting to Simon Diggins this morning, after his appearance on the BBC, where he spoke of the plight of Afghani translators being refused entry to the UK. These men have worked alongside our soldiers, helped save a great many lives yet, now we no longer require their services, they are being refused entry to the UK despite their and their families lives being under threat. Surely they deserve to be allowed entry?
Yup.. or to a safe Muslim country that is in concert with their lifestyle.
Troubleatmill said:
e21Mark said:
I spent an hour chatting to Simon Diggins this morning, after his appearance on the BBC, where he spoke of the plight of Afghani translators being refused entry to the UK. These men have worked alongside our soldiers, helped save a great many lives yet, now we no longer require their services, they are being refused entry to the UK despite their and their families lives being under threat. Surely they deserve to be allowed entry?
Yup.. or to a safe Muslim country that is in concert with their lifestyle.e21Mark said:
I spent an hour chatting to Simon Diggins this morning, after his appearance on the BBC, where he spoke of the plight of Afghani translators being refused entry to the UK. These men have worked alongside our soldiers, helped save a great many lives yet, now we no longer require their services, they are being refused entry to the UK despite their and their families lives being under threat. Surely they deserve to be allowed entry?
It's pretty shameful. And some of the responses on this thread are no better.
It's a pathetic situation where a country (and I'm including Australia and the US in this list) don't care enough to assist those who assisted them, simply because they are scared of a political backlash from the derrr immigrunts are bad musliamic allans snackbar idiots.
Colonial said:
e21Mark said:
I spent an hour chatting to Simon Diggins this morning, after his appearance on the BBC, where he spoke of the plight of Afghani translators being refused entry to the UK. These men have worked alongside our soldiers, helped save a great many lives yet, now we no longer require their services, they are being refused entry to the UK despite their and their families lives being under threat. Surely they deserve to be allowed entry?
It's pretty shameful. And some of the responses on this thread are no better.
It's a pathetic situation where a country (and I'm including Australia and the US in this list) don't care enough to assist those who assisted them, simply because they are scared of a political backlash from the derrr immigrunts are bad musliamic allans snackbar idiots.
Edited by babatunde on Tuesday 21st February 06:26
My mother has worked for the charity refugee council for the last 10 years, it would seem they are given targets as to how many refugee's to resettle in the uk, from each conflict, natural disaster, etc.
She has personally resettled interpreters, what she has found is in the frontline they are promised the world, while working with our troops, to a point given the image they will be treated like national hero's when arriving in the UK. As we all know this isn't the case, as the refugee's tend to end up in social housing or private landlords in less desirable area of towns. Where people have little respect for each other let alone refugee's. Interpreters can be some of my mum's hardest cases as their expectations are so high, through no fault of there own.
She has personally resettled interpreters, what she has found is in the frontline they are promised the world, while working with our troops, to a point given the image they will be treated like national hero's when arriving in the UK. As we all know this isn't the case, as the refugee's tend to end up in social housing or private landlords in less desirable area of towns. Where people have little respect for each other let alone refugee's. Interpreters can be some of my mum's hardest cases as their expectations are so high, through no fault of there own.
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