Cyclist ignores red light, gets hit, driver is prosecuted...
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... with driving without due care and attention.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4226984/Cy...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4226984/Cy...
PurpleMoonlight said:
... with driving without due care and attention.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4226984/Cy...
The driver admitted the offence so maybe you should be rolling your eyes at him.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4226984/Cy...
I find it best to check whether any traffic is coming whenever I go across a junction regardless of traffic light colour. Avoids this type of unpleasantness.
chow pan toon said:
I find it best to check whether any traffic is coming whenever I go across a junction regardless of traffic light colour. Avoids this type of unpleasantness.
Totally agree with you on that, but I still think that cases like this don't stress the importance of cyclists not jumping red lights. It sounds as though Austin should have taken evasive action, but it doesn't mean that the cyclist shouldn't be more heavily punished.When I am cycling myself, a lot of the bad treatment that I have received from drivers seems to stem from the fact that other cyclists are routinely misbehaving - it's not my fault but I still get blamed for it.
kingston12 said:
chow pan toon said:
I find it best to check whether any traffic is coming whenever I go across a junction regardless of traffic light colour. Avoids this type of unpleasantness.
Totally agree with you on that, but I still think that cases like this don't stress the importance of cyclists not jumping red lights. It sounds as though Austin should have taken evasive action, but it doesn't mean that the cyclist shouldn't be more heavily punished.When I am cycling myself, a lot of the bad treatment that I have received from drivers seems to stem from the fact that other cyclists are routinely misbehaving - it's not my fault but I still get blamed for it.
chow pan toon said:
kingston12 said:
"Police gave me a ticket for running the traffic lights - this may be why I was hit, I don't know."
Missed that. It's a good job he wasn't killed, the human race wouldn't want to lose that sort of mind .He also pretty much admits that he was at fault.
But yeah, you sarcastically wish the bloke dead. Have at it.
chow pan toon said:
kingston12 said:
chow pan toon said:
I find it best to check whether any traffic is coming whenever I go across a junction regardless of traffic light colour. Avoids this type of unpleasantness.
Totally agree with you on that, but I still think that cases like this don't stress the importance of cyclists not jumping red lights. It sounds as though Austin should have taken evasive action, but it doesn't mean that the cyclist shouldn't be more heavily punished.When I am cycling myself, a lot of the bad treatment that I have received from drivers seems to stem from the fact that other cyclists are routinely misbehaving - it's not my fault but I still get blamed for it.
I think a £200 fine rather than a £30 might put the message across a bit more strongly. Better enforcement might help as well. He probably only got the £30 fine because he was hurt and they reviewed the cameras otherwise he'd have got away with it altogether.
The problem from my perspective is that it is just done too routinely. If a cyclist stopped at a red light, looked to make sure it was clear and then jumped it that is one thing, but the ones I normally see just sail through as if there was no red light there at all. This often happens after they pass me waiting at the light on my bike making it even more obvious.
kingston12 said:
I still think that cases like this don't stress the importance of cyclists not jumping red lights.
The guy carelessly cycled through a red light and got hit by a car that almost killed him, and now suffers life changing injuries. I'm not sure how you could stress the importance on not running red lights any more than this!chow pan toon said:
The driver admitted the offence so maybe you should be rolling your eyes at him.
I find it best to check whether any traffic is coming whenever I go across a junction regardless of traffic light colour. Avoids this type of unpleasantness.
Isn't the going rate of a lost driving court case about £20k in fees these days? I certainly don't have that kind of money to gamble on whether the magistrate likes me or not so it's easy to see why people just take the punishment.I find it best to check whether any traffic is coming whenever I go across a junction regardless of traffic light colour. Avoids this type of unpleasantness.
FunkyNige said:
Isn't the going rate of a lost driving court case about £20k in fees these days? I certainly don't have that kind of money to gamble on whether the magistrate likes me or not so it's easy to see why people just take the punishment.
Isn't the punishment more severe if you lose too?RicharDC5 said:
kingston12 said:
I still think that cases like this don't stress the importance of cyclists not jumping red lights.
The guy carelessly cycled through a red light and got hit by a car that almost killed him, and now suffers life changing injuries. I'm not sure how you could stress the importance any more than this!I am not saying that is necessarily wrong as everyone should be responsible for trying their utmost to prevent accidents, just that it might send out the wrong message to some cyclists.
kingston12 said:
RicharDC5 said:
kingston12 said:
I still think that cases like this don't stress the importance of cyclists not jumping red lights.
The guy carelessly cycled through a red light and got hit by a car that almost killed him, and now suffers life changing injuries. I'm not sure how you could stress the importance any more than this!I am not saying that is necessarily wrong as everyone should be responsible for trying their utmost to prevent accidents, just that it might send out the wrong message to some cyclists.
Boring_Chris said:
chow pan toon said:
kingston12 said:
"Police gave me a ticket for running the traffic lights - this may be why I was hit, I don't know."
Missed that. It's a good job he wasn't killed, the human race wouldn't want to lose that sort of mind .He also pretty much admits that he was at fault.
But yeah, you sarcastically wish the bloke dead. Have at it.
If it reduces anyones blood pressure any.... I had 3 cyclists pull up one behind the other on my inside earlier (in the van and indicating left), as the lights changed I went forward, cyclist no1 blissfully cruised through my blind spot kill zone carefree as only a cyclist can be, but much to my amazement cyclist no2 was one of those rare beasts to sense unsighted conflicting paths and OMFG actually pause as the road split to allow my turn... only to be rammed up the arse by cyclist no3.
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