45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2
Discussion
scherzkeks said:
Greg66 said:
scherzkeks said:
the tax return fiasco?
Still waiting for your answers on that.In your own time.
As one of your fellow SJW millenial bloggers described it: the return was "a giant nothingburger."
Sorry for triggering you enough to write two posts.
How did the entrepreneurial wonderboy lose $1bn that enabled years of offsetting tax?
johnfm said:
scherzkeks said:
Greg66 said:
scherzkeks said:
the tax return fiasco?
Still waiting for your answers on that.In your own time.
As one of your fellow SJW millenial bloggers described it: the return was "a giant nothingburger."
Sorry for triggering you enough to write two posts.
How did the entrepreneurial wonderboy lose $1bn that enabled years of offsetting tax?
Some interesting questioning on the inquiry.
https://www.nytimes.com
Some longed stuff though. Might wait for the reporting.
It is MSM though so they must be actors working to a script.
https://www.nytimes.com
Some longed stuff though. Might wait for the reporting.
It is MSM though so they must be actors working to a script.
jmorgan said:
Some interesting questioning on the inquiry.
https://www.nytimes.com
Some longed stuff though. Might wait for the reporting.
It is MSM though so they must be actors working to a script.
FAKE NEWS! FAILING NYTIMES!!https://www.nytimes.com
Some longed stuff though. Might wait for the reporting.
It is MSM though so they must be actors working to a script.
p1stonhead said:
Haven't seen any Trump supporters comment on the US categorically saying Trump was lying about the wire taps.
What say you scherzkeks?
What is interesting is the way the snippet made the press, then the President will not disavow it even though he not directly saying it. I reckon they dangled Spicer out with that snippet to see what would happen.What say you scherzkeks?
Edit. And of course to sow doubts.
Edited by jmorgan on Monday 20th March 17:48
GetCarter said:
The worrying thing about Trump is that the rest of the world is laughing at him.
That has to be very dangerous. The guy obviously has some personality 'issues', and some will play that to their advantage.
The world could well go to s
t, just 'cos of one man's ego and narcissism.
I'm less inclined to think this now. From looking at his executive orders getting destroyed and the fact he was giving his marching orders by Mexico in that now the US is paying for the wall, it's clear he's fairy impotent when it gets down to the reality. That has to be very dangerous. The guy obviously has some personality 'issues', and some will play that to their advantage.
The world could well go to s
t, just 'cos of one man's ego and narcissism.boxxob said:
rscott said:
Did Podesta & HRC hide those Russian links? And HRC didn't sell them uranium - she was one member of a committee who all agreed to sell it. Wasn't her sole decision, nor did she have a casting vote..
So Merkel publicly speaking about links with Russia? Very different to Trump & his team then.
You have said this before, saying that Clinton was not solely involved. Does it change the murkiness (or should that now be merkiness) of the situation and it does not instruct us on what exactly her influence and conflicts were?So Merkel publicly speaking about links with Russia? Very different to Trump & his team then.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/w...
It's easy to claim Clinton was not involved when the evidence that would prove this is confidential. If, as Secretary of State, leading that department, she didn't have acute knowledge of the deal, then she was not very good at her job. This is what Trump has been exploiting and it's not really new politics, he just packages and targets it differently, and does it directly and to the extreme, rather than as carefully spun stories fed through the media and departments. He's waging an on-going election campaign, probably because the his presidency remains under concerted attack, an Office that is precarious through his own behaviour as much as that of anyone else, in all likelihood. Perhaps he is the floundering goon, or there could be some strategy to this (or both and the floundering goon is the firewall persona). He's used accusations and misrepresentation, 'bait' comments as distractions and as set ups before ('factual relativism' - as someone else put it). This recent Obama wiretap business could be just that sort of move.
Edited by boxxob on Monday 20th March 17:54
scherzkeks said:
Greg66 said:
scherzkeks said:
the tax return fiasco?
Still waiting for your answers on that.In your own time.
As one of your fellow SJW millenial bloggers described it: the return was "a giant nothingburger."
Sorry for triggering you enough to write two posts.
Let's good at the good points for Trump: in 2005 he paid a lot of tax. Roughly the right amount of tax, it seems on the even greater amount of money he made. So that is indeed good.
That didn't take long.
Now let's at the not so good points. The return was marked "client copy". So it is DJT's copy, not the IRS's. Which leads one to conclude Trump leaked it. Hmm. Why would he want to do that? Well, because it shows he paid the right amount of tax and a lot of tax.
That year. In 2005.
So what about the other years? If he'd made a lot of money in those years, and paid a lot of tax in those years, he'd have leaked his returns for those years. But he didn't, so we don't know squat about those. But we can indulge in some informed guesswork. Trump has now shown he is willing and able to leak his own returns. Which means he has returns he is not willing to leak. If you've got a selection, you'd leak your best ones. Anyone would.
But he leaked one, and only one. We can tentatively conclude from his conduct that this is the only good one.
Which means he has 12 since 2005, and countless more before 2005 that are bad. Returns that he doesn't want to leak because they don't show him in a good light.
One tax return in maybe 20 years that shows him in a good light.
It's not about what he said, it's about what he declined to say: that's a giant somethingburger. With all the trimmings.
scherzkeks said:
Greg66 said:
scherzkeks said:
the tax return fiasco?
Still waiting for your answers on that.In your own time.
As one of your fellow SJW millenial bloggers described it: the return was "a giant nothingburger."
Sorry for triggering you enough to write two posts.
And you do know that the Federal tax paid was a small amount, and the majority of the tax was one that he wants to abolish and one that was introduced because people were "planning" their way out of Federal tax?
GetCarter said:
The worrying thing about Trump is that the rest of the world is laughing at him.
He accuses a former president of wire tapping him, then puts the blame on GCHQ. Because some nut job on Fox news said so. He does this minutes after hearing it. On Fox news.No time to think about it, no time to verify anything. Just throw it out there.
Its not 4 months in yet and we are at a position where G7 world leaders have to consider the President of the United States of America as irrelevant. And hope he doesnt start any wars...
grumbledoak said:
Much gnashing of teeth by the impotent media, and plenty of frothing from those who didn't vote for him. And he won't give a fig. It's chaff. And it's working.t from an impotent man who is trying to pander to impotent people. With any luck the FBI will "lock him up"!grumbledoak said:
citizensm1th said:
I am looking forward to the next trump distraction/smoke and mirrors
Much gnashing of teeth by the impotent media, and plenty of frothing from those who didn't vote for him. And he won't give a fig. It's chaff. And it's working.What's working exactly? Is this some sort of game of tease the media? Or do you mean his game of obfuscation?
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