45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

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5ohmustang

2,755 posts

115 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Don't wait up, it will probably be very late your time.

I ment repair my Van, (corrective text.)

Prepping thread Nanook.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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5ohmustang said:
This is not convincing.

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

If I knew what it brought it down I would not have asked.
That website goes long with the official story?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Well, it seems that thing about the travel ban not affecting British passport holders ... not so great if you're called Mohammed. Even if you're a teacher accompanying school children on a school trip.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wale...

Though this was a week after the 9th Circuit of Appeals upheld the ban of the ban. So perhaps just good ol' fashioned profiling done really ineptly.

I guess this isn't part of the "making America great again" gig. It's a separate thing.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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p1stonhead said:
rofl
You are just on a roll today aren't you.

Debunking911.com laugh
It's a site debunking the conspiracy theories?

KrissKross

2,182 posts

101 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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p1stonhead said:
It is fascinating too. Do you really love the US that much
Do you love everything and everyone equally, or are there some places or people you dislike?

Are we supposed to like everyone equally or are we not allowed to have different thoughts?

Digby

8,237 posts

246 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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p1stonhead said:
I honestly without any joking intended, would like to know how it came to be that you are SO American.
I honestly and without joking would like to know why many on here are SO pathetically childish & argumentative.

Also insulting flags now..

After hitting enter once such insults have been created, do people lean back in their chair and punch the air?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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I can't believe I'm sticking me head down this particular rabbit hole, and yes I know it's OT, but sometimes an itch needs to be scratched.

Can one of the adherents explain to me, in one or two sentences, this: if WTC7 was brought down by explosives and not the collapse of the two main towers, why was it demolished? The motive to demolish it seems to be completely absent from the conspiracy theories.

unrepentant

21,257 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Flew back into Atlanta from Mobay yesterday, first time out of the country since Trump assumed office. Lines looked long at the Non US immigration desks. They always do but they looked longer than usual. There seemed to be a little more tension in the air too but that may have been my imagination.

The DHS have announced the hiring of 5,000 extra border patrol officers and 10,000 more "agents" to enforce the orange bigot's diktats. They've moved on from the previous governments (quite correct) policy of targeting criminals and terror threats and are basically going to go after whoever they can find. It will give license to the successors to Arpaio who would suspect anyone with dark skin or a Hispanic accent of being illegal and submit them to interrogation. 11,000,000 mostly law abiding decent people now live in fear of a knock on the door and millions of others fear that they will be subject to harassment.

Meanwhile Trump spends half the week golfing at his Florida hotel (at a cost of $3 million a pop to us) each week and the citizens of NYC pay $1 million a week so his wife can live in their apartment.

President Bannon and his small handed puppet are going to leave a big mess in 6 months or a year or 2 or 4 or whenever this debacle ends.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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unrepentant said:
Meanwhile Trump spends half the week golfing at his Florida hotel (at a cost of $3 million a pop to us) each week and the citizens of NYC pay $1 million a week so his wife can live in their apartment.

President Bannon and his small handed puppet are going to leave a big mess in 6 months or a year or 2 or 4 or whenever this debacle ends.
How does Trump racking up the bills compare to Obama?

unrepentant

21,257 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Halb said:
unrepentant said:
Meanwhile Trump spends half the week golfing at his Florida hotel (at a cost of $3 million a pop to us) each week and the citizens of NYC pay $1 million a week so his wife can live in their apartment.

President Bannon and his small handed puppet are going to leave a big mess in 6 months or a year or 2 or 4 or whenever this debacle ends.
How does Trump racking up the bills compare to Obama?
Obama $80 million in 8 years. Trump already over $10 million in one month.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Halb said:
unrepentant said:
Meanwhile Trump spends half the week golfing at his Florida hotel (at a cost of $3 million a pop to us) each week and the citizens of NYC pay $1 million a week so his wife can live in their apartment.

President Bannon and his small handed puppet are going to leave a big mess in 6 months or a year or 2 or 4 or whenever this debacle ends.
How does Trump racking up the bills compare to Obama?
An order of magnitude more, AIUI. E.g. the First Family gets Security Service protection. So when the Trump sons go abroad to do business for Trump Co, they get the full Security Service detail travelling with them, paid for by tax dollars.

And Trump's personal bill is supposed to be staggering, not least because he splits his time between the WH and Florida. I think from memory the Security Service pays him rent to occupy part of Trump Tower in NYC so they can protect him there. I assume they do the same in Florida.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

250 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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unrepentant said:
11,000,000 mostly law abiding decent people now live in fear of a knock on the door and millions of others fear that they will be subject to harassment.
rofl

unrepentant said:
Meanwhile Trump spends half the week golfing at his Florida hotel (at a cost of $3 million a pop to us) each week and the citizens of NYC pay $1 million a week so his wife can live in their apartment.

President Bannon and his small handed puppet are going to leave a big mess in 6 months or a year or 2 or 4 or whenever this debacle ends.
Unrep, you've got balls turning up back on these threads with your wise man's views. rofl

You do remember that so far you've got everything wrong? Right?

wavey

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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According to this: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/09/21/un... 11 million is around the right ballpark. Whether they are mostly law abiding is a different question, of course.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Greg66 said:
I can't believe I'm sticking me head down this particular rabbit hole, and yes I know it's OT, but sometimes an itch needs to be scratched.

Can one of the adherents explain to me, in one or two sentences, this: if WTC7 was brought down by explosives and not the collapse of the two main towers, why was it demolished? The motive to demolish it seems to be completely absent from the conspiracy theories.
Has trollbiscuits been on about this again? You know he trebled up recently on WTC 1 & 2??

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Did I miss where 50hmustang confirmed that he thinks the moon landings were faked?

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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5ohmustang said:
Don't wait up, it will probably be very late your time.

I ment repair my Van, (corrective text.)

Prepping thread Nanook.
Side note, I'm loving the van thread. You're politics are crazy to me, but it is a cool piece of Americana and I love reading about it - and our political differences are completely irrelevant to that thread.

5ohmustang

2,755 posts

115 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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johnfm said:
Did I miss where 50hmustang confirmed that he thinks the moon landings were faked?
Fake News. I just never answered.

My answer is... No I don't think they were faked.

5ohmustang

2,755 posts

115 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Colonial said:
Side note, I'm loving the van thread. You're politics are crazy to me, but it is a cool piece of Americana and I love reading about it - and our political differences are completely irrelevant to that thread.
I think we are more a like than you think.

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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5ohmustang said:
Fake News. I just never answered.

My answer is... No I don't think they were faked.
Well, that's that put to bed then.

5ohmustang

2,755 posts

115 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Fair play to you for sticking by your obviously strong principles though throughout this thread.

It is fascinating too. Do you really love the US that much despite not being there that long relatively speaking? I don't see how the country could possibly have caught your imagination so strongly as an outsider. I've been a few times and love the place and everyone I have met there although as a tourist it's sort of insulating obviously.

I honestly without any joking intended, would like to know how it came to be that you are SO American. I actually have extended family who are born and bread in America and who voted for Trump and they are WAY WAY WAY less 'American' than you appear to be. Obviously tell me to do one as it's none of my business if you want smile
Cue the music, and before you say Bruce Springsteen's a liberal, I am fully aware.

https://youtu.be/IrxKkELQJiQ

I have been in the U.S. for approximately 10 years. Yes I do love the US as much as I make out. I do not disagree in that, yes there are problems, however the pros heavily outweigh the cons.

I have always been fascinated by American culture. I do not mean the pop or Hollywood culture, but the Americana aspect.

By that I mean muscle cars, trucks, guns, the survival/homestead movement, the vast expanses of scarlet populated land, the outdoors, food, etc.

I love the old America and it's history. From its first inception to the 90s. Listening to the stories of the older generations and how they got by in hard times.

Meeting car enthusiasts and listening to their individual stories of the car culture from times past. I've met fellow muscle car owners to pick up parts, we get talking and end up staying up all night talking about cars.

I talk to a lot of people when I go out. I am an introvert and like to keep myself to myself. However when I interact with people and they hear the accent. They want to talk and talk. I went to home depot tonight to look for some bolts, I got in a half hour conversation with a stranger. People are very friendly.

It is so very different to what I was used to. I got tired of pubs and clubs. Waiting in Piccadilly gardens to get the 135 home as some poor kid gets glassed in the face or watch some guy puke up everywhere or watch a comatosed girl with her knickers around her ankles piss herself on canal Street. I am not saying this is the standard British life, we know it is not. However that's what I saw a lot of. I was totally disillusioned of what society chose the mould I should fit into. I never liked soccer, never a big drinker, it always rained, crime was bad, petrol too expensive, houses too expensive and small. However the choice in cars other than American cars is fantastic.

I am not trying to offend anyone and say my way of life is better than yours. I choose my path because it is how I wanted to life. However I will say living in debt, paying all your monthly salary to survive is not how humans were ment to live.

I never wanted to be the typical brit going to the tourist hotspots, CA,FL and NY.

I wanted to go to blue collar, gritty, blood and guts America. So I went to Alabama.

No I have not lost my British accent at all, however my vocab has changed and genuinely use Americanisms. Now when someone in here is being a tosser, I'll admit I overuse them. However in order to live here you have to adapt your vocab, otherwise no one will have a clue of what I am trying to say. My wife is American from Alabama, I have always loved American accents, the novelty of hearing my wife talk has not worn off. Nor is she obese or overweight Nanook.

I do not hate the UK, it's people or lifestyle. It just did not mesh well with me. I have always felt an outsider. I could not afford the lifestyle I have, having said that I live frugally. The UK has it pros but for me they did not outweigh the cons.

Being 10 years older now, I feel I would have found a level of happiness and satisfaction if I stayed in the UK, but it was always a dream to be here, something I never thought possible.

Both countries have great people and dick heads. I do not feel coming to the US on holiday, watching YouTube or reading books can give people a true understanding. I am sure many Brits have come here, didn't like it and returned, fair play.

I have been told by Americans I am more patriotic and Americanized than most Americans they know. While I joke on here about eating the freedom fries and all that, I am not a blind patriot.

As in Billy Joel's song Allentown "But something happened on the way to that place, They threw an American flag in our face."

I do not worship the state. I am not blind to the evil that has been perpetrated for the "greater good." I do not like Republicans, but they are the lesser of two evils. The Democrats are repulsive, bat st crazy mentalists.

All media is biased to a certain degree. As individuals we the end user should decide what media we choose to listen to and what to filter out, that is not the job of a governing body to decide. CNN is fake news, however I respect their right to exist and pump out what ever crap they want.

When one media outlet is censored then so will the rest.

When you change any amendment in the Constitution then it will happen to the rest, therefore no quarter.

People on here can call me traitor and all the other names, in case no one noticed, I don't give a st. My life would not have planned out the way it has if I did not make the decisions I did.

I believe as it is the responsibility of a naturalized immigrant to assimilate of their new adopted country. Let's say I went to Japan, I am going to learn and practice their customs. Continue their traditions and uphold their values. Buy and drive Japanese vehicles, maybe even listen to Eurobeat etc.

Whatever the country I am naturalized to I will adapt to their way.

Religion is different, that's the individuals right to choose, I don't care. I do care when that said religion practices hate and terror.

I am an atheist. I used to be a militant atheist. Living in Alabama I have seen it all. I have spent a lot of time around Baptists, Evangelicals and non denominational. My wife is athiest. Her parents are Baptists. It is their way of life.

I've been to black revivals and to church of Christ (speaking in tongues.) The Benny Hinn level of wtf is going on with these people.

I've been accused of being the anti Christ and I have been told I am angel from heaven.

As long as these people are not harming others let them believe what they want. When an ideology clearly tells it's followers repeatedly to slay infidels that is not cool with me.

The Confederate flag is not a symbol of racism. The media has spread that lie.

I have never ever witnessed white supremacy, white privilege, gender inequality and all the other nonsense.

I see more hatred between mustang and camaro owners than I see with different races.

This is not the 19th century anymore.

Going back to the question. Everybody has different goals and reasons for what drives them in life. I am simply fascinated with Americana and alternative living. We all have different interests and do not have to agree with each other to coexist.

https://youtu.be/p8_FOQ7-P30
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