45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2
Discussion
5ohmustang said:
La Liga said:
The old, "Look what the other side is doing", to defend Trump.
It doesn't matter whether you lose by 1 electoral college vote or 58.Losing is losing.
Were you his information source for this, BTW? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUod8yzzvvc
5ohmustang said:
La Liga said:
he old, "Look what the other side is doing", to defend Trump.
It doesn't matter whether you lose by 1 electoral college vote or 58.Losing is losing.
k I like, when I like, however I like". Greg66 said:
True, but nothing to do with failing to defend what the winner then goes on to do. Despite what many think, winning doesn't mean "Goody! Now I can do just what the fk I like, when I like, however I like".
None of this is any different to what he set out prior to winning.k I like, when I like, however I like". El stovey said:
What happened to the decent 5omustang that sparkled briefly last week?
One decent post, then back to being a bit of a creepy weirdo again,
So sad. So sad.
It wasn't a particularly decent post, it's that people have such low expectations that anything above his usual standards seems golden. One decent post, then back to being a bit of a creepy weirdo again,
So sad. So sad.
This is just a terrible speech
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/24/preside...
Just spent far too long talking about the past and the media and not how to go forward. He was elected to change the status quo and move forward but he has got bogged down in trivia.
The Danish have a phrase for it, keiserens nye klæder.
Even some of the eyes in the convention from his followers who wanted to hear something uplifting look liked they were just waiting.... they were almost grateful to receive the bones chucked such as "U S A" or etc.
The GOP sees the big picture. At the moment GOP and Trump are like chalk and cheese.
I've not even got up to speed with the latest issues with press access, but if he thinks he can fight the intelligence service and the press and win he and his team are deluded.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/24/preside...
Just spent far too long talking about the past and the media and not how to go forward. He was elected to change the status quo and move forward but he has got bogged down in trivia.
The Danish have a phrase for it, keiserens nye klæder.
Even some of the eyes in the convention from his followers who wanted to hear something uplifting look liked they were just waiting.... they were almost grateful to receive the bones chucked such as "U S A" or etc.
The GOP sees the big picture. At the moment GOP and Trump are like chalk and cheese.
I've not even got up to speed with the latest issues with press access, but if he thinks he can fight the intelligence service and the press and win he and his team are deluded.
5ohmustang said:
jmorgan said:
Oh dear. Seems they are barring certain news orgs from press briefings.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/24/us/politics/whi...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/24/us/politics/whi...
Good.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/5336183961001/?#sp=show...
"Fox News is supporting the complaints"
Ahem, you can go read Breibart again I guess, sadly without Milo
Gandahar said:
5ohmustang said:
jmorgan said:
Oh dear. Seems they are barring certain news orgs from press briefings.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/24/us/politics/whi...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/24/us/politics/whi...
Good.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/5336183961001/?#sp=show...
"Fox News is supporting the complaints"
Ahem, you can go read Breibart again I guess, sadly without Milo
p1stonhead said:
Someone moving from the north of England to the US just ten years ago and a newly elected president suddenly being like a god who can do nothing wrong is just bizarre.
"Just" ten years ago?!As for the newly elected president, he's probably had a while now to form opinions on what is happening.
That makes his opinions far more valid than those who gave Trump about 30 seconds before slagging him off at every single opportunity and attacking his supporters etc.
One of the reasons Trump is sitting where he is now, is due to these types of people.
People clearly have had enough of the old ways.
The levels of negativity and insults on display are comical; although I do understand that some people just need something to moan about.
It really wouldn't have mattered who won.
Digby said:
p1stonhead said:
Someone moving from the north of England to the US just ten years ago and a newly elected president suddenly being like a god who can do nothing wrong is just bizarre.
"Just" ten years ago?!As for the newly elected president, he's probably had a while now to form opinions on what is happening.
That makes his opinions far more valid than those who gave Trump about 30 seconds before slagging him off at every single opportunity and attacking his supporters etc.
One of the reasons Trump is sitting where he is now, is due to these types of people.
People clearly have had enough of the old ways.
The levels of negativity and insults on display are comical; although I do understand that some people just need something to moan about.
It really wouldn't have mattered who won.
t mental as trump is being. Being in the US I don't think gives you any better details of what Trump says or does.
What it does do, of course, is give you a much better feeling as to how the general population feels and reacts to what he says and does.
If you want to know why a politician has reached a certain level of popularity, you need to talk to those who voted for him.
And if you are trying to "fit in" with those around you and you are surrounded by Trump supporters, there is a good chance that you will find yourself agreeing with their views.
What it does do, of course, is give you a much better feeling as to how the general population feels and reacts to what he says and does.
If you want to know why a politician has reached a certain level of popularity, you need to talk to those who voted for him.
And if you are trying to "fit in" with those around you and you are surrounded by Trump supporters, there is a good chance that you will find yourself agreeing with their views.
p1stonhead said:
But I don't for one second think she wouldn't be as batst mental as trump is being.
It's only mental to those who don't like him and to those who prefer the tried-and-tested approach to running a country.t mental as trump is being. To millions of others, this is exactly what they wanted.
His style and approach to all of this offers up easy ammunition for those who don't like him.
It's no longer debate and hardly ever rational, it's simply rock-throwing and mud-slinging etc.
Actually...
"Some mask-wearing demonstrators shouting anti-Trump slogans threw large rocks and pieces of cement at a phalanx of armed officers with riot shields"
Yet his supporters are the morons?
Funny old world.
Digby said:
One of the reasons Trump is sitting where he is now, is due to these types of people.
One of the reasons he is sitting where he is now, is because Trump. The buck stops there.It was ever going to be when he started to make cast iron promises. The wall, the ban, stopping ISIS and pretty much the whole body language of Alpha Male going around a psiing on what Obama did because Obama.
One of the requirements for the wall, apparently, is the ability for the border force to see through it (reading one report that may or may not be true). Either glass or a fence, some wall eh? He is getting compromised on his cast iron promises and he does not like it. Grow a thick skin and get on with it. Do the best you can for your country or whine about bad press and get nothing done.
Proof of the pudding and all that, will the wall get built and the Mexicans pay for it? Or a garden fence and the US pays for it (cheaper to swallow than a full blown wall, i can see which way this will go). See? Problems he will face of his making. He will be measured on this. Banning press from the White House will not stop reporting on this, so what steps is he going to take next on the press?
According to the Guardian, the excluded news outlets weren't simply CNN, NYT,,LA Times and Politoc as the US outlets are reporting. They were also the BBC, The Guardian, The Daily Mail, Buzzfeed and further unnamed outlets. And AP was invited but boycotted it.
It seems that one of The Donald's bête noires is the use of anonymous sources. It takes roughly less than a second to realise that that's because being the petty vindictive person he is, it deprives him of a target against which to retaliate. SAD!
Other stuff: besides the wall having completely stalled as far as one can see, repeal and replace of Obamacare has gone very quiet. Not happening sort of very quiet. The immigration ban replacement EO is still nowhere to be seen with rumours that the WH has been unsuccessfully pressing the intelligence services to provide some evidence to support the desired ban (rather than the more conventional: "here's the evidence, let's work up a measure that addresses it").
And the latest is that Trump is going to request a massive budget increase to spend on the military. Why? He is completely against the US being the world's policeman and is an isolationist. Why spend money on a military that you won't use? Oh yes, because it is seen as patriotic, so will whip up support, and can vilify Congress when they say "ps off. Do you even know how big the deficit is?".
It seems that one of The Donald's bête noires is the use of anonymous sources. It takes roughly less than a second to realise that that's because being the petty vindictive person he is, it deprives him of a target against which to retaliate. SAD!
Other stuff: besides the wall having completely stalled as far as one can see, repeal and replace of Obamacare has gone very quiet. Not happening sort of very quiet. The immigration ban replacement EO is still nowhere to be seen with rumours that the WH has been unsuccessfully pressing the intelligence services to provide some evidence to support the desired ban (rather than the more conventional: "here's the evidence, let's work up a measure that addresses it").
And the latest is that Trump is going to request a massive budget increase to spend on the military. Why? He is completely against the US being the world's policeman and is an isolationist. Why spend money on a military that you won't use? Oh yes, because it is seen as patriotic, so will whip up support, and can vilify Congress when they say "p
s off. Do you even know how big the deficit is?". Digby said:
"Just" ten years ago?!
As for the newly elected president, he's probably had a while now to form opinions on what is happening.
That makes his opinions far more valid than those who gave Trump about 30 seconds before slagging him off at every single opportunity and attacking his supporters etc.
One of the reasons Trump is sitting where he is now, is due to these types of people.
People clearly have had enough of the old ways.
The levels of negativity and insults on display are comical; although I do understand that some people just need something to moan about.
It really wouldn't have mattered who won.
Oh the irony. As for the newly elected president, he's probably had a while now to form opinions on what is happening.
That makes his opinions far more valid than those who gave Trump about 30 seconds before slagging him off at every single opportunity and attacking his supporters etc.
One of the reasons Trump is sitting where he is now, is due to these types of people.
People clearly have had enough of the old ways.
The levels of negativity and insults on display are comical; although I do understand that some people just need something to moan about.
It really wouldn't have mattered who won.
Are you a Trump supporter? If so, do you see any shortcomings or causes for concern?
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