45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

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Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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PhillipM said:
Halb said:
The news thing is poor, I didn't hink it would go that far. I think it's thr wrong tack.

From what I read somewhere, GoP doesn't use 'obamacare' term, they want to try and rebrand it, since it's actually a great concept and desperately needed, just needs a re-jig.

The military spending is ridiculous.
It wasn't called Obamacare to start with, it still isn't now....wait, I wonder who made the nickname up...

Edited by PhillipM on Saturday 25th February 11:20
It's used as a de factor nomenclature, hence the subtle shift to change it.

mygoldfishbowl

3,697 posts

143 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Eric Mc said:
They need to be vigilant. Trump and Bannon's tactics at the moment is to effectively persuade the American public that the only trusted source of information and news is themselves and a few selected media outlets that share their views.

There is a "mental prepping" process going on at the moment designed to undermine the standing of the press and the media in the US so that, when some big scandal erupts and envelopes the administration (which is bound to happen - perhaps very soon), then the shouting of "fake news, fake news, enemy of the people, don't listen to them" etc etc will have taken root in the minds of the public.

We shall see if it works or not. I am hopeful that there are enough free thinking, free minded and intelligent people in America to see through this fairly simplistic approach to "queering the pitch" which is a hallmark of Trump and his cronies.
Well there obviously is otherwise Trump would not have won the election.

Eric Mc

121,941 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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I have my doubts on that score.

Indeed, Trump wants to alienate those of intelligence - much like many dictators of the past. The term "intelligentsia" has long been used by those who wanted to deride those who actually had brains - and used them.

The popular alternative word today is of course "elite".

We shall see how all this pans out. As I said previously, Trumps main attacks have not been on those "enemies" that might actually harm or undermine the country, but those "enemies" that might actually harm or undermine him.

Funk

26,266 posts

209 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Brilliant!

Apparently someone handed out flags with Trump's name on them to CPAC attendees:



Not too many of them realized that it was a Russian flag and were happily waving them around:



Staffers going around to quickly confiscate them:



hehe

Eric Mc

121,941 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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I saw that earlier. It does kind of reinforce what I was saying about "intelligence".

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Maybe they should spin this story. Trump prevents people waving flags with his name on them.

Eric Mc

121,941 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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I suppose any flag with red white and blue would appeal to a Trumpite.

Here's another one they might want to wave about a bit. It could even be referred to as the "star and stripes" -


cqueen

2,620 posts

220 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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I don't think you can blame the Trump administration for banning certain media. Look what the BBC are publishing now, absolute tosh, non story, theory, some douche bags opinion. Thus confirming what Trump says all the time about fake news stories...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-39082465

Eric Mc

121,941 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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cqueen said:
I don't think you can blame the Trump administration for banning certain media. Look what the BBC are publishing now, absolute tosh, non story, theory, some douche bags opinion. Thus confirming what Trump says all the time about fake news stories...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-39082465
I am always worried about people getting enthusiastic about "banning".

Can't they cope with things they don't agree with?

Are they that scared of hearing things that aren't in line with their world view?

p1stonhead

25,526 posts

167 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Biggest ever! No others will compare! Best best best!


Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Biggest ever! No others will compare! Best best best!

He's such an insecure prat.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Biggest ever! No others will compare! Best best best!

At night, grandiose buildings for a backdrop, few torches......

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
Alpinestars said:
He's such an insecure prat.
More of the 'substance' Eric was calling for..
Any substance to your post? Do you think he's coming across as insecure or not? Do you have a view?

Eric Mc

121,941 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Calling for rallies and mass meetings all sounds rather ominous to me.

He needs to just shut up and get on with running the country.

turbobloke

103,863 posts

260 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
Alpinestars said:
He's such an insecure prat.
More of the 'substance' Eric was calling for..
Be fair - after all, incessant name calling in the election campaign worked well and it's still a surefire winner nuts Shocked expressions and abuse from Trump's opponents helped Hillary.....to an ignominious defeat, but will defeat Trump easily now he's in office.

silly

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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The double standards of those who use alternative news sites is amusing. Highly critical of "MSM", but that evaporates when it comes to sources which they want to believe.

cqueen said:
I don't think you can blame the Trump administration for banning certain media. Look what the BBC are publishing now, absolute tosh, non story, theory, some douche bags opinion. Thus confirming what Trump says all the time about fake news stories...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-39082465
Your post seems so silly I can't tell if you're being serious or not. It's reporting on a psychological theory proposed by people who are experts in the field.

How can that be "fake news"?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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cqueen said:
I don't think you can blame the Trump administration for banning certain media. Look what the BBC are publishing now, absolute tosh, non story, theory, some douche bags opinion. Thus confirming what Trump says all the time about fake news stories...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-39082465
About the "douchebag"

wiki said:
Jon Alexander Krosnick is a professor of Political Science, Communication, and (by courtesy) Psychology, and director of the Political Psychology Research Group (PPRG) at Stanford University. Additionally, he is the Frederic O. Glover Professor in Humanities and Social Sciences and an affiliate of the Woods Institute for the Environment. One major focus of his research has been questionnaire design and survey research methods. Krosnick has studied the psychology of attitudes, voter choice behavior, and public opinion on global warming. He has been a co-principal investigator of the American National Election Study, the nation's long-running and most comprehensive academic research project exploring voter decision-making.[1] Krosnick has served as a consultant for government agencies, universities, and businesses and has testified as an expert in court proceedings. He has also been an on-air television commentator on election night.[2]

Krosnick's work focuses on the design and methodology of questionnaires and surveys, and he has served as a consultant to the government, academia, and industry on these issues. Krosnick was a principal investigator leading the American National Election Studies from 2005 to 2009, along with Arthur Lupia of the University of Michigan.[3] He was a member of the National Election Study Ad Hoc Committee on Survey Mode which compiled a report for the National Election Study Board of Overseers on the pros and cons of moving from face-to-face to telephone interviews.[4] He has also studied the psychology of attitudes and researched how voters make up their minds and how campaigns influence them.[1] He has conducted research on American attitudes toward global warming, how negativity in campaigns affects turnout, and ballot order effects. He has also been an on-television commentator on election night.[2]
But I like the way you've rigorously debunked his thesis in a mere nine words.

minimoog

6,881 posts

219 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Biggest ever! No others will compare! Best best best!

Unless the millions of people who voted for Hillary held one. That would be bigger.

XCP

16,909 posts

228 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Why would his name be top of the list anyway?

Alphabetically doesn't work for his surname or party.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
He banned the BBC,that's good enough for me.
Why?
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