45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

[turbobloke]

Greg66 said:

turbobloke said:

Saying that Trump feels cowed and unable to handle their questions is one interpretation of events (yours). Equally possible is that he holds the view that certain media outlets portray an even less accurate version of events than others,

As said above, Trump has a very weak, at best, understanding of what "true" means.

As I also said above (at some point, I remember it well), I can't get inside the mind of any politician including Trump, not least as there's so little room. As a result I can't say and won't claim anything definitive about what Trump understands weakly or strongly.

[Eric Mc]

So - you are completely neutral on Trump.

You have no opinion.

[anonymous-user]

I wonder what the response on here would have been if Obama had banned Fox News from his press conferences....

[Eric Mc]

Funkycoldribena said:

Eric Mc said:

What's that got to do with banning news outlets from attending White House briefings?

I'm not saying Trumps right,but the hypocrisy works both ways.

Hold on a second.

We are not talking about individuals having a spat here.

We are talking about the leader of what is supposed to be an open and functioning democracy. It is without precedence that an American President has barred news outlets he didn't like from a briefing of this type. This is new territory for the US and it has shocked many people there - even from those he "allowed" to attend the briefing.

Indeed, some that were allowed to attend chose to boycott it in protest (Associated Press for example).

If he continues to behave like this he will alienate even those he thinks are "his friends" in the media because he is behaving erratically and unpredictably. In fact, he is displaying some very disturbing psychological tendencies.

I think America is slowly waking up to the fact that they have put a mad man in charge of their country. I hope they emerge out the other side of this episode in one piece as a country.

[unrepentant]

The US born US citizen son of US legend Muhammad Ali was detained at a Florida airport on his return from Mobay recently and questioned about whether he was a Muslim. Disgusting doesn't begin to describe it.

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/nation-now/2017...

[turbobloke]

Eric Mc said:

So - you are completely neutral on Trump.

You have no opinion.

Thanks for letting me know what your position on my position is.

It's inaccurate, as happens when people with a view think they can get inside other people's heads using their own view as a guide.

The same thing happens when folks think they can get inside Trump's head.

To which aspect of Trump do you refer...hairstyle, dress sense, the media access restrictions?

You can only possibly know about the last one (above) on the media access restrictions as I already said I don't agree with it earlier today at 1404 hrs. At the same time I pointed out that Trump probably doesn't care what my opinion is; nor yours for that matter, nor what the BBC / Daily Mail think of it.

HTH.

[jmorgan]

cookie118 said:

I wonder what the response on here would have been if Obama had banned Fox News from his press conferences....

Was not aware of that, quick google for a look see. But it seems it never came to that as the news orgs said they would work off a pool feed? Interesting that has not happened with trump yet.

Either way, bad move by Obama. Even if Fox were so far right they were falling over.

[rscott]

turbobloke said:

Eric Mc said:

So - you are completely neutral on Trump.

You have no opinion.

Thanks for letting me know what your position on my position is.

It's inaccurate, as happens when people with a view think they can get inside other people's heads using their own view as a guide.

The same thing happens when folks think they can get inside Trump's head.

To which aspect of Trump do you refer...hairstyle, dress sense, the media access restrictions?

You can only possibly know about the last one (above) on the media access restrictions as I already said I don't agree with it earlier today at 1404 hrs. At the same time I pointed out that Trump probably doesn't care what my opinion is; nor yours for that matter, nor what the BBC / Daily Mail think of it.

HTH.

Personally I think the piece in bold is the complete opposite of Trump's views. I think he desperately craves praise and support. Just look at his comments on TV ratings, attendance, etc.

[Eric Mc]

TB - I wasn't trying to get into your head (heaven forbid - God knows what I'd find in there).

I forgot to put question marks at the end of each comment.

So, on that basis, can you answer those two questions?

So - you are completely neutral on Trump?

You have no opinion?

Do you support Trump or do you just NOT support the alternatives.

I really do think most of the support for Trump comes not for any love for him but for "fed upness" with what's gone before.

That's all understandable but if you vote for someone you should know what you are voting for as much as what you are voting against.

[turbobloke]

rscott said:

turbobloke said:

Eric Mc said:

So - you are completely neutral on Trump.

You have no opinion.

Thanks for letting me know what your position on my position is.

It's inaccurate, as happens when people with a view think they can get inside other people's heads using their own view as a guide.

The same thing happens when folks think they can get inside Trump's head.

To which aspect of Trump do you refer...hairstyle, dress sense, the media access restrictions?

You can only possibly know about the last one (above) on the media access restrictions as I already said I don't agree with it earlier today at 1404 hrs. At the same time I pointed out that Trump probably doesn't care what my opinion is; nor yours for that matter, nor what the BBC / Daily Mail think of it.

HTH.

Personally I think the piece in bold is the complete opposite of Trump's views. I think he desperately craves praise and support. Just look at his comments on TV ratings, attendance, etc.

Yes but you would think that, just as Eric would think that Trump is cowed etc. Who knows? Not you folks, and not me either.

[turbobloke]

Eric Mc said:

TB - I wasn't trying to get into your head (heaven forbid - God knows what I'd find in there).

Health and Safety gone mad yet again, tsk.

[Alpinestars]

Eric Mc said:

I wasn't trying to get into your head (heaven forbid - God knows what I'd find in there).

I forgot to put question marks at the end of each comment.

So, on that basis, can you answer those two questions?

So - you are completely neutral on Trump?

You have no opinion?

Do you support Trump or do you just NOT support the alternatives.

I really do think most of the support for Trump comes not for any love for him but for "fed upness" with what's gone before.

That's all understandable but if you vote for someone you should know what you are voting for as much as what you are voting against.

I think a fair amount on here comes from having similar political views.

[Eric Mc]

turbobloke said:

Yes but you would think that, just as Eric would think that Trump is cowed etc. Who knows? Not you folks, and not me either.

It certainly seems that way. He does seem to not want any dissenting opinions in his vicinity.

In the vast majority of cases that usually denotes extreme insecurity and fear.

[Leithen]

Eric Mc said:

It certainly seems that way. He does seem to not want any dissenting opinions in his vicinity.

In the vast majority of cases that usually denotes extreme insecurity and fear.

He appears to be one of the most insecure men on the planet. Who happens to somehow be in charge of a substantial part of the same planet.

It's not a good combination.

[Elysium]

cqueen said:

The BBC ONLY EVER reports about Trump in a negative light. So take your 'scientific research' and shove it. Until the BBC and the rest of the media starts being more balanced, I'll not have a word of it.

They aren't biased. It's just that it is very very difficult for an impartial news organisation to find anything positive to say about trump.

Unfortunately, it isn't fake news and he really is that bad.

[Lucas CAV]

cqueen said:

The BBC ONLY EVER reports about Trump in a negative light. So take your 'scientific research' and shove it. Until the BBC and the rest of the media starts being more balanced, I'll not have a word of it.

What has he done that is even remotely positive?

[Eric Mc]

What news outlets have reported favourably on him yet?

[anonymous-user]

jmorgan said:

cookie118 said:

I wonder what the response on here would have been if Obama had banned Fox News from his press conferences....

Was not aware of that, quick google for a look see. But it seems it never came to that as the news orgs said they would work off a pool feed? Interesting that has not happened with trump yet.

Either way, bad move by Obama. Even if Fox were so far right they were falling over.

Obama never did that, but I was wondering what the resident Trumpians/BBC haters would have thought about that move?

Hint-I think they'd react very badly to it. However they are fine with Trump doing it because it 'winds up the lefties' or some other mental gymnastics.

[ou sont les biscuits]

cookie118 said:

Obama never did that, but I was wondering what the resident Trumpians/BBC haters would have thought about that move?

Hint-I think they'd react very badly to it. However they are fine with Trump doing it because it 'winds up the lefties' or some other mental gymnastics.

I think you have to call us Libtards now. Hyperboleft is also quite popular.

[Eric Mc]

The nearest we have had before to a President who detested the media was Richard Nixon. He spent his whole career as a politician despising them - mainly because he was insecure and paranoid.

Listen to his famous speech to the press corps after he lost his bid for California Governor back in 1962 -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AmDkAV0KeI

Strange parallels. And it didn't turn out well for him in the end.