45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

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RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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More on military? They already out spend the test of the world combined.

Always playing to people's fears.

5ohmustang

2,755 posts

116 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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The irony of saying "the US spends too much on their military" coming from a country that doesn't even have a single aircraft carrier. Nevermind not having the money to build 1 aircraft carrier, but then having the share it with the quitting French.


Digby

8,243 posts

247 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Dimski said:
However, it seems that people really, REALLY do not understand what fake news is.

Newspapers and journalists have to have a legitimate source but can then write an article in a cosmopolitan way to evoke an emotive response in the reader; it is why we have the Daily Mail and the Guardian. They both do the same thing from fairly opposite ends of the political spectrum.

This does not mean it is fake news. You could claim it may be misleading, but it is not necessarily fake.
Having worked for News International, I can tell you that it was never hard to offer up some money and have fake news, or extremely exaggerated news, appear from a "source".

Having to see tiny sections of a paper / web page dedicated to apologies based on this wasn't uncommon.

It's all about grabbing the headline, selling the most copy and worrying about the aftermath later. They have a team of lawyers on hand ready to give best and worst case scenarios regarding all manner of reports.

It's a business and the rules don't always apply when the money made from sales will far exceed any financial punishment.


p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Digby said:
Dimski said:
However, it seems that people really, REALLY do not understand what fake news is.

Newspapers and journalists have to have a legitimate source but can then write an article in a cosmopolitan way to evoke an emotive response in the reader; it is why we have the Daily Mail and the Guardian. They both do the same thing from fairly opposite ends of the political spectrum.

This does not mean it is fake news. You could claim it may be misleading, but it is not necessarily fake.
Having worked for News International, I can tell you that it was never hard to offer up some money and have fake news, or extremely exaggerated news, appear from a "source".

Having to see tiny sections of a paper / web page dedicated to apologies based on this wasn't uncommon.

It's all about grabbing the headline, selling the most copy and worrying about the aftermath later. They have a team of lawyers on hand ready to give best and worst case scenarios regarding all manner of reports.

It's a business and the rules don't always apply when the money made from sales will far exceed any financial punishment.
I think most people take issue with the fact he is picking and choosing. Suggesting Fox or Breitbart are above what he thinks is 'fake' is laughable. People would probably have less of an issue if it was a blanket ban. It's because he only banned those that don't constantly stroke his ego which is why people have taken issue. Trump supporters can't see it though they are happy for some bizarre reason.

You get the likes of Breitbart and Infowars (and worth making the point again that THEY THINK THE MOON LANDINGS WERE FAKED!) used by sources here but the BBC and CNN are fake news? laugh

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Edited by p1stonhead on Sunday 26th February 06:50

Digby

8,243 posts

247 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Or should perhaps the most powerful person in the world have some decorum at all times while speaking to the public/press?
Why? They don't.

As mentioned, it's a part of the system many are clearly bored of.

The whole scenario reminds me of the movie 'The Boat That Rocked'.

Stuffy, conservative figures trying to silence something millions of others demand and enjoy.

This is Radio Trump and the more people try to sink it, the more people are questioning why.



5ohmustang

2,755 posts

116 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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5ohmustang

2,755 posts

116 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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5ohmustang

2,755 posts

116 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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RobDickinson said:
More on military? They already out spend the test of the world combined.

Always playing to people's fears.
No worries we got your back...again, this time on U.S. military aircraft made possible with out military budget. Has it ever occured to you if other NATO countries paid their fair share we would not have to spend so much. But who is going to keep those evil ruskies at bay.


http://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/environment...

5ohmustang

2,755 posts

116 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Doesn't suit your left wing conspiracy theory that everyone dislikes President Trump.

Maybe you should get some of those reliable CNN Fake News Pollsters that were used for the election.

Digby

8,243 posts

247 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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p1stonhead said:
You get the likes of Breitbart and Infowars (and worth making the point again that THEY THINK THE MOON LANDINGS WERE FAKED!) used by sources here but the BBC and CNN are fake news? laugh
Blame Capricorn One, desperate attempts to win the space race and the fact the supposedly higher quality moon landing tapes were lost / taped over by NASA.

That would make me ask questions, too.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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5ohmustang said:
p1stonhead said:
Doesn't suit your left wing conspiracy theory that everyone dislikes President Trump.

Maybe you should get some of those reliable CNN Fake News Pollsters that were used for the election.
Breitbart news is the fakest of all didn't anyone tell you?

5ohmustang

2,755 posts

116 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Breitbart news is the fakest of all didn't anyone tell you?
Keep on believing that nonsense and worshipping Che Guevara.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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5ohmustang said:
p1stonhead said:
Breitbart news is the fakest of all didn't anyone tell you?
Keep on believing that nonsense and worshipping Che Guevara.
Right back at you with Trump and Bannon laugh

5ohmustang

2,755 posts

116 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Right back at you with Trump and Bannon laugh
Making America Great Again! Goodnight.

Bill

52,833 posts

256 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Are people really happy Trump is trying to surround himself with yes men who won't ask awkward questions?

(And what did the Mail do wrong? Was it an unflattering shot of Melania's side boob?)

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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5ohmustang said:
The irony of saying "the US spends too much on their military" coming from a country that doesn't even have a single aircraft carrier. Nevermind not having the money to build 1 aircraft carrier, but then having the share it with the quitting French.
Without wishing to derail the conversation, aircraft carriers are quite possibly the most useless military capability you could wish to acquire in this day and age.

Eric Mc

122,055 posts

266 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Digby said:
p1stonhead said:
You get the likes of Breitbart and Infowars (and worth making the point again that THEY THINK THE MOON LANDINGS WERE FAKED!) used by sources here but the BBC and CNN are fake news? laugh
Blame Capricorn One, desperate attempts to win the space race and the fact the supposedly higher quality moon landing tapes were lost / taped over by NASA.

That would make me ask questions, too.
And that about sums my suspicions up.

It was bound to happen but the loons really have taken over the asylum.

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Digby said:
p1stonhead said:
You get the likes of Breitbart and Infowars (and worth making the point again that THEY THINK THE MOON LANDINGS WERE FAKED!) used by sources here but the BBC and CNN are fake news? laugh
Blame Capricorn One, desperate attempts to win the space race and the fact the supposedly higher quality moon landing tapes were lost / taped over by NASA.

That would make me ask questions, too.
Do you think the moon landings might have been faked?

Mr Snrub

24,990 posts

228 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Bill said:
Are people really happy Trump is trying to surround himself with yes men who won't ask awkward questions?

(And what did the Mail do wrong? Was it an unflattering shot of Melania's side boob?)
didn't they falsely claim she used to work as an escort?
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