45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2
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EVERY tape made during the Apollo missions survives in one form or another. NASA didn't make just ONE set of master tapes - they made DOZENS of them - as did many of the other organisations involved directly or indirectly with the project.
What makes me really curious is why those who claim to support a President who wants to make America great AGAIN seems ready to dismiss probably one of the greatest achievements of America.
What makes me really curious is why those who claim to support a President who wants to make America great AGAIN seems ready to dismiss probably one of the greatest achievements of America.
TTwiggy said:
Eric Mc said:
What makes me really curious is why those who claim to support a President who wants to make America great AGAIN seems ready to dismiss probably one of the greatest achievements of America.
The Alt-Right movement seems inexorably tied up with conspiracy theory.It does seem to me that there is now a whole generation of totally barking individuals who are too stupid to realise how stupid they actually are.
Eric Mc said:
It does seem to constitute a large part of their mindset.
It does seem to me that there is now a whole generation of totally barking individuals who are too stupid to realise how stupid they actually are.
Until very recently a belief that the moon landings were faked, that 9/11 was an inside job and that god created the world about 10,000 years ago would see you laughed at. Now it seems to mark you out as worthy of high office.It does seem to me that there is now a whole generation of totally barking individuals who are too stupid to realise how stupid they actually are.
TTwiggy said:
Until very recently a belief that the moon landings were faked, that 9/11 was an inside job and that god created the world about 10,000 years ago would see you laughed at. Now it seems to mark you out as worthy of high office.
Oh and MMR vaccine causes autism, another crazy conspiracy Trump's latest announcements:
1. Defence and security spending to increase (always the hardest thing to argue against: "Do you WANT the USA to be weak?") by $54bn a year.
2. Other departments' spending to be cut by the same amount. No further details at this time.
3. With a $20tn debt the US Govt has to "tighten its belt".
Umm, so what's the plan for item 3?
1. Defence and security spending to increase (always the hardest thing to argue against: "Do you WANT the USA to be weak?") by $54bn a year.
2. Other departments' spending to be cut by the same amount. No further details at this time.
3. With a $20tn debt the US Govt has to "tighten its belt".
Umm, so what's the plan for item 3?
54 billion spending on military. Caveat is 54 billion cuts else where. At least how I read it?
Listening to him saying, as a school kid, always hearing they (US) never lost a war. Now they never win.
Source. Mr T, out his own lips.
Edit. It was on CNN so probably made up.
Listening to him saying, as a school kid, always hearing they (US) never lost a war. Now they never win.
Source. Mr T, out his own lips.
Edit. It was on CNN so probably made up.
Edited by jmorgan on Monday 27th February 17:20
There it is. Trump is going to make the USA the most winningist war machine of all. It will be beautiful. Tremendous.
And stay largely pristine, because he doesn't want it to be the world's policeman, and is an isolationist.
Perhaps instead of fighting abroad the US Forces could do military parades past their President. Who will have lots and lots of medals. Gold ones, naturally. And some braid. Gold braid.
And stay largely pristine, because he doesn't want it to be the world's policeman, and is an isolationist.
Perhaps instead of fighting abroad the US Forces could do military parades past their President. Who will have lots and lots of medals. Gold ones, naturally. And some braid. Gold braid.
ash73 said:
Greg66 said:
1. Defence and security spending to increase (always the hardest thing to argue against: "Do you WANT the USA to be weak?") by $54bn a year.
10% increase at a time they can least afford it. This has confirmed Trump is an idiot. Absolute madness.The Paris climate boondoggle deal is set to reduce USA GDP by $2.5 trillion, and result in the loss of 400,000 jobs by 2035. An estimated 200,000 will be in the manufacturing sector. These figures are from the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.
If this is seen as lacking independence of thought or is compromised in some other way, a Columbia University study puts the cost of Obama's signature on the Paris agreement as $42 billion to $176 billion every year until 2050. At least this has upper and lower bounds, rather than a single gospel number.
Who knows if Trump will, as claimed previously by Camp Trump, pull the USA out of the Paris deal. If he does, it's going to free up a significant sum annually and prevent job losses. Alternative uses can support job creation.
Also, should anyone reasonably want to look at potential benefits as well as costs with regard to the cost of the Paris agreement, Dr Bjorn Lomborg has used the UN IPCC's own climate modelling to demonstrate that the 'benefit' of the Paris deal amounts to reducing the planet's temperature at the end of this century by three tenths of one degree. This is according to those who believe in global warming aka climate change, not those that people name-call as 'deniers'.
For perspective, data from the satellite temperature database maintained by the University of Alabama in Huntsville has shown mean global temperature dropping by more than five tenths of a degree in the space of four days. In other words, the so-called three tenths benefit is going to be lost in the noise of natural variation.
Here's hoping Trump goes ahead and gets the USA out of the Paris madness, purely for the sake of hard-pressed American citizens.
Eric Mc said:
EVERY tape made during the Apollo missions survives in one form or another. NASA didn't make just ONE set of master tapes - they made DOZENS of them - as did many of the other organisations involved directly or indirectly with the project.
What makes me really curious is why those who claim to support a President who wants to make America great AGAIN seems ready to dismiss probably one of the greatest achievements of America.
Not that I have looked into it lately, but the higher quality SSTV tapes were erased and reused according to NASA.What makes me really curious is why those who claim to support a President who wants to make America great AGAIN seems ready to dismiss probably one of the greatest achievements of America.
It's a shame because they would have offered the highest quality footage which could have been made to look even better today.
Halb said:
jmorgan said:
Does this spending and saving still have to get past congress?
I would guess so, but will there be any issues? The nutters are strong in COngress under Turtle and Ryan, and money spent on guns and bombs always does well with the nutter fraternity.Put another way, I don't know to what extent Congress has a say in the budgets of individual departments as opposed to the overall bottom line.
But if it does the balance of power must lie in the hands of budget-conscious Republicans, assuming there are enough to tip the vote one way or the other (I'm assuming Dems will vote against just because). Targeting military and security spending allows Trump to attack dissenting Congressmen in the same way he attacked the judges who blocked his immigration EO: the blood of every future dead American serviceman will be on their hands.
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