45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 2

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jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Add SJW to Incogative distance or whatever the term is.

968

11,965 posts

249 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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scherzkeks said:
I saw CNN hype up a leaked tax return. I saw Maddow -- visibly shaking -- ramble on for a good 20 minutes about nothing, before being forced to reveal that contrary to HRC campaign allegations, Trump paid required federal income taxes, did not skirt AMT, and that the return contained nothing out of the ordinary. An epic own-goal.

Then, deliciously, salt was rubbed deep into the wound of low-info. SJWs everywhere, as they were briefly transported out of collective hallucination, to be informed that Trump made USD 150 million, and was indeed rich.

Good times.
Only on your planet.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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scherzkeks said:
p1stonhead said:
scherzkeks said:
Greg66 said:
scherzkeks said:
Cognitive dissonance tell.

Meanwhile, the giant nothing burger remains a giant nothing burger. laugh
rofl

Another run and hide post from our resident neo-Trumpist ballwasher!




laugh
Did you actually see that 80% of his tax was under a law he promised to abolish?

You really see nothing wrong with that point?!

Beyond reproach.
I saw CNN hype up a leaked tax return. I saw Maddow -- visibly shaking -- ramble on for a good 20 minutes about nothing, before being forced to reveal that contrary to HRC campaign allegations, Trump paid required federal income taxes, did not skirt AMT, and that the return contained nothing out of the ordinary. An epic own-goal.

Then, deliciously, salt was rubbed deep into the wound of low-info. SJWs everywhere, as they were briefly transported out of collective hallucination, to be informed that Trump made USD 150 million, and was indeed rich.

Good times.
What do you think of the plan to abolish the cause of him paying all of his tax?

Or will you dodge the question again?

BigMon

4,205 posts

130 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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grumbledoak said:
yes Much gnashing of teeth by the impotent media, and plenty of frothing from those who didn't vote for him. And he won't give a fig. It's chaff. And it's working.
What 'is working' exactly?

If the masterplan is to make him look like a bumbling kneejerk reactionary incompetent then, yes, it's working superbly and I doff my cap to him.



rscott

14,771 posts

192 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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scherzkeks said:
I saw CNN hype up a leaked tax return. I saw Maddow -- visibly shaking -- ramble on for a good 20 minutes about nothing, before being forced to reveal that contrary to HRC campaign allegations, Trump paid required federal income taxes, did not skirt AMT, and that the return contained nothing out of the ordinary. An epic own-goal.

Then, deliciously, salt was rubbed deep into the wound of low-info. SJWs everywhere, as they were briefly transported out of collective hallucination, to be informed that Trump made USD 150 million, and was indeed rich.

Good times.
Interestingly, forbes suggest he got hosed on that tax return. https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetnovack/2017/03/1... . He also wasn't even on the IRS top 400 gross incomes that year.

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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BigMon said:
What 'is working' exactly?

If the masterplan is to make him look like a bumbling kneejerk reactionary incompetent then, yes, it's working superbly and I doff my cap to him.
I think that some of the smarter Trump supporters are saying to themselves "you'll see, this noise is just distraction, he's really very smart and any time now he's about to deliver something that the leftists didn't even see coming, and it really is going to be so very beautiful".

And the longer he fails to deliver anything of value/substance, the more desperately they believe in him.

(Then there's the thread's very own village idiot, who's still giddy with the election result, and doesn't care about anything else.)

Murph7355

37,760 posts

257 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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p1stonhead said:
What do you think of the plan to abolish the cause of him paying all of his tax?

Or will you dodge the question again?
Who else pays the tax and what is its purpose?

Eg is it something mainly paid by the relatively poor and it would help them get their heads above water? If it is, is it more important to nail rich people or help those less well off?

Genuine question as I have no idea on US tax details, but am familiar with people's tendency to focus on the wrong things where taxes are concerned.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Murph7355 said:
p1stonhead said:
What do you think of the plan to abolish the cause of him paying all of his tax?

Or will you dodge the question again?
Who else pays the tax and what is its purpose?

Eg is it something mainly paid by the relatively poor and it would help them get their heads above water? If it is, is it more important to nail rich people or help those less well off?

Genuine question as I have no idea on US tax details, but am familiar with people's tendency to focus on the wrong things where taxes are concerned.
AMT is designed to prevent taxpayers from escaping their fair share of tax liability through tax breaks.

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/alternativemin...

The AMT is an alternative tax calculation that typically only kicks in for Americans earning more than $200,000 per year. The AMT is potentially triggered when filers claim a number of deduction types, including state and local taxes, children and other dependents.

As said before, Trump promised to abolish the tax which would have saved him tens of millions in tax just in 2005. This is why his tax return is NOT inconsequential - it shows how much he stands to benefit personally every year from his proposed tax reform. He doesnt give a st about the common man like he claims to.



https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/trump-tax-reform.p...

Edited by p1stonhead on Tuesday 21st March 12:22

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Eric Mc said:
Anybody know the answer to my question about Trumps Travels?

Can he be stopped from travelling to Florida every week at the taxpayers' expense?
His sons trips to the middle east have apparently come out the public purse? Travel and security, open businesses etc. Somewhere to South America as well?

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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BigMon said:
grumbledoak said:
yes Much gnashing of teeth by the impotent media, and plenty of frothing from those who didn't vote for him. And he won't give a fig. It's chaff. And it's working.
What 'is working' exactly?

If the masterplan is to make him look like a bumbling kneejerk reactionary incompetent then, yes, it's working superbly and I doff my cap to him.
It didn't stop him from being elected in fairness.

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

135 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Murph7355 said:
Who else pays the tax and what is its purpose?

Eg is it something mainly paid by the relatively poor and it would help them get their heads above water? If it is, is it more important to nail rich people or help those less well off?

Genuine question as I have no idea on US tax details, but am familiar with people's tendency to focus on the wrong things where taxes are concerned.
The law was created in the late 60s in response to a very small group that had incomes over 200k, but over time millions of average earners became ensared (partially due to inflation).

Congress has moved to reduce exemption amounts for AMT on several occasions, and even tied the exemption to inflation a few years back, but it still disproportionately affects middle-class households in high-tax-rate states (where certain deductions are not possible), particularly those with several kids. The target income levels are just too low.

Generally, there have been calls across the spectrum to either eliminate AMT altogether or reduce its reach to the ultra rich, whom it was intended for.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Disastrous said:
Yet another ludicrous post with zero substance from scherzeks.

Genuine question - do you think you're absolutely nailing it here, or do you realise that it's clear that you have nothing and are just scrabbling around like a dog on ice and just trying to make the best of it?
Absolutely perfect summary of the gullible ballwasher!

mikal83

5,340 posts

253 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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scherzkeks said:
Murph7355 said:
Who else pays the tax and what is its purpose?

Eg is it something mainly paid by the relatively poor and it would help them get their heads above water? If it is, is it more important to nail rich people or help those less well off?

Genuine question as I have no idea on US tax details, but am familiar with people's tendency to focus on the wrong things where taxes are concerned.
The law was created in the late 60s in response to a very small group that had incomes over 200k, but over time millions of average earners became ensared (partially due to inflation).

Congress has moved to reduce exemption amounts for AMT on several occasions, and even tied the exemption to inflation a few years back, but it still disproportionately affects middle-class households in high-tax-rate states (where certain deductions are not possible), particularly those with several kids. The target income levels are just too low.

Generally, there have been calls across the spectrum to either eliminate AMT altogether or reduce its reach to the ultra rich, whom it was intended for.
So lets remove AMT from THAT tax return and badda bing, he paid around 3.5%!

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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mikal83 said:
scherzkeks said:
Murph7355 said:
Who else pays the tax and what is its purpose?

Eg is it something mainly paid by the relatively poor and it would help them get their heads above water? If it is, is it more important to nail rich people or help those less well off?

Genuine question as I have no idea on US tax details, but am familiar with people's tendency to focus on the wrong things where taxes are concerned.
The law was created in the late 60s in response to a very small group that had incomes over 200k, but over time millions of average earners became ensared (partially due to inflation).

Congress has moved to reduce exemption amounts for AMT on several occasions, and even tied the exemption to inflation a few years back, but it still disproportionately affects middle-class households in high-tax-rate states (where certain deductions are not possible), particularly those with several kids. The target income levels are just too low.

Generally, there have been calls across the spectrum to either eliminate AMT altogether or reduce its reach to the ultra rich, whom it was intended for.
So lets remove AMT from THAT tax return and badda bing, he paid around 3.5%!
Man of the people!


Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Man of the people!

My, that apartment is quite...gaudy.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Europa1 said:
p1stonhead said:
Man of the people!

My, that apartment is quite...gaudy.
Its insanely bad;

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=trump+penthouse&...

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Europa1 said:
p1stonhead said:
Man of the people!

My, that apartment is quite...gaudy.
"Please allow me to introduce myself; I'm a man of wealth and taste."

He's clearly not the Devil then! Wealth, yes (but not as much as he claims). Taste, no, not at all.

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

135 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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FN2TypeR said:
It didn't stop him from being elected in fairness.
He was elected because Democrat apparatchiks conspired to oust a perfectly good candidate in Sanders.

The steady flow of establishment neoliberal tears since Trump's election may make up for losing Sanders, however.

Disastrous

10,088 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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His flat looks like Donatella Versace exploded and they haven't cleaned her off the walls yet.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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It's like Liberace married an oil sheikh and was allowed to do the decorating.

And yet, weirdly, one of the truly stand out st features is how low the ceilings are. Like in the meeting rooms at really cheap hotel just off the motorway.
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