BLAIR, his latest intervention. Should he shut up ?
Discussion
loafer123 said:
Could you give a link to the data? I am struggling to find it on the YouGov site.
I saw it on the Grauniad website. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactiv...I know I'm only going over old ground but I'm still amazed that Teflon Tone can honestly believe in what he's saying. How can anyone be so blinkered, so naive, so arrogant, to really think that we need him as The Messiah. It bothers me because he's no idiot, more a clever, cunning, smarmy piece of work, happy to lie without even blinking.
What's he up to - is it just the religion thing or has he got some sick plan ?
What's he up to - is it just the religion thing or has he got some sick plan ?
Robertj21a said:
I know I'm only going over old ground but I'm still amazed that Teflon Tone can honestly believe in what he's saying. How can anyone be so blinkered, so naive, so arrogant, to really think that we need him as The Messiah. It bothers me because he's no idiot, more a clever, cunning, smarmy piece of work, happy to lie without even blinking.
What's he up to - is it just the religion thing or has he got some sick plan ?
"Set up a foundation" = TAX breakWhat's he up to - is it just the religion thing or has he got some sick plan ?
Soon to set up the New New Labour Party
Robertj21a said:
I know I'm only going over old ground but I'm still amazed that Teflon Tone can honestly believe in what he's saying. How can anyone be so blinkered, so naive, so arrogant, to really think that we need him as The Messiah. It bothers me because he's no idiot, more a clever, cunning, smarmy piece of work, happy to lie without even blinking.
What's he up to - is it just the religion thing or has he got some sick plan ?
I think ultimately he's driven by religion greed and wanting to leave a great legacy. His legacy at the moment is a bit tarnished so this is his rebirth into politics. What's he up to - is it just the religion thing or has he got some sick plan ?
El stovey said:
I think ultimately he's driven by religion greed and wanting to leave a great legacy. His legacy at the moment is a bit tarnished so this is his rebirth into politics.
I wondered about that. There's a certain conceit required to consider that, and so that's one tick. He's religiously inclined and it possibly wasn't a front put on to suck up to the USA top bloke. After he met the pope - that says all one needs to know about that job as well - he went a bit quiet on the religiosity, but he has mentioned this legacy of his before. Cameron suggested he wanted to leave a legacy, but perhaps he only meant leave when things got a bit tough.
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Jimboka said:
Deptford Draylons said:
JawKnee said:
I don't like the man but why should any one be shut up? We still live in a democracy in case you forgot.
People don't have to shut up about being a remainer and wishing the country hadn't voted to leave. If you are however someone like Farron and Blair ( and a good few on PH ) who don't like the result and wish to perform a stitch-up, then yeah, you might get told to shut up.It may have escaped your attention, but the anti brexit LDs gave the conservatives a pasting in a recent byelection & came close in the other. On the back of being the anti brexit alternative
Jimboka said:
Deptford Draylons said:
JawKnee said:
I don't like the man but why should any one be shut up? We still live in a democracy in case you forgot.
People don't have to shut up about being a remainer and wishing the country hadn't voted to leave. If you are however someone like Farron and Blair ( and a good few on PH ) who don't like the result and wish to perform a stitch-up, then yeah, you might get told to shut up.It may have escaped your attention, but the anti brexit LDs gave the conservatives a pasting in a recent byelection & came close in the other. On the back of being the anti brexit alternative
The election of one or two posturing LibDem MPs in strong Remain areas abusing the vote as a referendum protest is hardly slick but definitely remoaner-voter manipulation. The election of that LibDem and any others won't make any difference.
After A50 these voters will be stuck with a LibDem MP living on planet Zorg while taking money from the public purse. Lucky them!
turbobloke said:
Jimboka said:
Deptford Draylons said:
JawKnee said:
I don't like the man but why should any one be shut up? We still live in a democracy in case you forgot.
People don't have to shut up about being a remainer and wishing the country hadn't voted to leave. If you are however someone like Farron and Blair ( and a good few on PH ) who don't like the result and wish to perform a stitch-up, then yeah, you might get told to shut up.It may have escaped your attention, but the anti brexit LDs gave the conservatives a pasting in a recent byelection & came close in the other. On the back of being the anti brexit alternative
The election of one or two posturing LibDem MPs in strong Remain areas abusing the vote as a referendum protest is hardly slick but definitely remoaner-voter manipulation. The election of that LibDem and any others won't make any difference.
After A50 these voters will be stuck with a LibDem MP living on planet Zorg while taking money from the public purse. Lucky them!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-DHqFikHoA
turbobloke said:
LibDems misleading the people to get HoC seats, whodathunkit.
Surely even you cannot be suggesting that the tories and labour aspirants don't do exactly the same. Even you!The libdems have a strong following. They have a superb infrastructure. They will be a threat in years to come. If Corbyn doesn't retire/resign/be replaced, and not by one of his acolytes, then there will be a gap.
B'stard Child said:
Now THAT is a great troll interview Derek Smith said:
turbobloke said:
LibDems misleading the people to get HoC seats, whodathunkit.
Surely even you cannot be suggesting that the tories and labour aspirants don't do exactly the same. Even you!Having just seen the prince of slime Mandelson trying to help Blairs case on the Marr show, it just reinforces the message that people like him and Blair must be totally ignored from now on. Both have their wallets based on staying cosy with the EU, and are doing all they can to make sure that is what happens. Fortunately they seem to be doing a great job....for the leave campaign.
B'stard Child said:
Priceless The next vid up was Nick Clegg's car crash interview, thanks for double bubble entertainment!
As an example of Mandelsons faulty view point. he stated that only 37% of the UK`s population voted for leave, which might well be the true figure. What he forgot to point out, was that if the 37% of the population who voted leave figure was accurate, then it was an even smaller percentage of the UK`s population voted to remain.
He also managed to forget the fact, that the voter turn out for the 2016 referendum was the largest ever seen in UK political history. So his point about the `only 37%' when put in context was as useless, and vaporous, as everything else that comes out of the prince of slime.
He also managed to forget the fact, that the voter turn out for the 2016 referendum was the largest ever seen in UK political history. So his point about the `only 37%' when put in context was as useless, and vaporous, as everything else that comes out of the prince of slime.
Pan Pan Pan said:
As an example of Mandelsons faulty view point. he stated that only 37% of the UK`s population voted for leave, which might well be the true figure. What he forgot to point out, was that if the 37% of the population who voted leave figure was accurate, then it was an even smaller percentage of the UK`s population voted to remain.
He also managed to forget the fact, that the voter turn out for the 2016 referendum was the largest ever seen in UK political history. So his point about the `only 37%' when put in context was as useless, and vaporous, as everything else that comes out of the prince of slime.
this is again an example of a Politician not realising that even the most poorly educated voter can still do basic calculations. Trying to "spin" the numbers just doesn't work anymore we don't trust Politicians on face value. The thought of Mandelson and Blair having some impact in todays Britain is just too much to even contemplate.He also managed to forget the fact, that the voter turn out for the 2016 referendum was the largest ever seen in UK political history. So his point about the `only 37%' when put in context was as useless, and vaporous, as everything else that comes out of the prince of slime.
Pan Pan Pan said:
As an example of Mandelsons faulty view point. he stated that only 37% of the UK`s population voted for leave, which might well be the true figure. What he forgot to point out, was that if the 37% of the population who voted leave figure was accurate, then it was an even smaller percentage of the UK`s population voted to remain.
He also managed to forget the fact, that the voter turn out for the 2016 referendum was the largest ever seen in UK political history. So his point about the `only 37%' when put in context was as useless, and vaporous, as everything else that comes out of the prince of slime.
You are wrong. The 72% turn out was not the largest ever seen in UK political history, far from it in fact. The average turn out from after the war to the election of Blair in 79 was well above that. The figures are online and it was highlighted after the referendum.He also managed to forget the fact, that the voter turn out for the 2016 referendum was the largest ever seen in UK political history. So his point about the `only 37%' when put in context was as useless, and vaporous, as everything else that comes out of the prince of slime.
Dare I say False News or is faulty view point more appropriate?
And that's not even taking into consideration the much higher turnout for the Scottish referendum.
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