Business Rates Increase

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TDIPLC

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3,663 posts

207 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Not sure whether this has been raised before (checked the search function).

Anyone in commercial premises know what the their new business rates in going to be? If so, what's the increase and how will you deal with?

I have a feeling this won't end well frown

kiethton

13,883 posts

179 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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there is a website when you can search for you property and it will tell you both the current and proposed rateable value:

https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/view-my-valuation/s...


PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

156 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Mine are comming down by 5%.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

173 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Government doing its best to shaft SMEs as usual?

HoHoHo

14,980 posts

249 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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I have one building going up a lot and one going down a bit

loafer123

15,404 posts

214 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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It is a zero sum game.

The same amount of tax is raised, with the taxable amount related to an updated assessment of rental value.

In principle, this isn't a problem, but in practice, it will be painful for London in particular.

In areas where rents have risen significantly, they should fall as a result to reflect a jump up in total occupational cost.

21TonyK

11,494 posts

208 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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There is another thread running/has run on the fairness of the rates increase.

Personally I am not affected anymore. However, my old restaurant, has just come back onto the market.

Their rates just went up by around 50%.

That combined with increasing rents and energy costs is probably the tipping point for them between making it worthwhile and not in terms of earnings.

Easier to go work <40s hour week for someone else.

Ian Geary

4,464 posts

191 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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21TonyK said:
There is another thread running/has run on the fairness of the rates increase.
Any chance of a link? Tried searching via google, but no luck.

I head on radio 2 that business groups want the tax reviewed because it disadvantages sellers with a physical presence. However i'm sure the dclg carried out a review of business rates less than a couple of years ago..

Transitional relief will help slow the increases initially, but will also slow the savings too (as its a zero sum mechanism).

Personally I don't think the government has the capacity to replace such a long standing tax at present, as leaving the eu is almost too big a job for Whitehall. Even this review has been cobbled together, and is 2 years late..

Nndr raises a lot of revenue, and to capture online business activity would have to move to either sales or profit. Potentially the entire VOA apparatus would then become surplus to requirements, though I think they do council tax stuff as well.

Ian

V8covin

7,213 posts

192 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Mine has doubled but and it's a big but,my local council have been giving small businesses 100% relief for a number of years.So,my bill will be going from zero to zero smile

wc98

10,334 posts

139 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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21TonyK said:
Easier to go work <40s hour week for someone else.
the cynical part of me says that is the exact intention . i am surprised at the lack of comment here given the apparent demographic of many posters.


Balmoral

40,660 posts

247 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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As I understand it, 50% will see a reduction, 25% will see no change and 25% will see an increase. 75% facing no change or a reduction seems positive to me.

nichio3478

92 posts

104 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Hi,

I'm a chartered surveyor and specialise in business rates. Whilst this does not make me a particularly interesting person, it does mean i could probably help some of you in relation to queries which arise in this thread.

Any questions, happy to help.

Cheers,

nichio