Cancelling an Isurance Policy

Cancelling an Isurance Policy

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tony wright

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1,004 posts

250 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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I organised a new policy (on line) for my Stepfather (83yrs old) 10 days ago and he paid in full using his debit card. It doesn't start till the 24th Feb when his old one expires, but unfortunately he blacked out last week and ended up in hospital (still there). Doctor has told him he won't be driving for quite some time, if indeed he is allowed to drive again. He's now decided to sell his car so obviously does not require the insurance. I have E-mail the insurer informing them of the above, so my question is; will there be an admin charge for cancellation and is it normal to have a 14 day cooling off period. Can't check his new policy as he's still in hospital.

elanfan

5,517 posts

227 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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Insurer will have incurred admin costs so there might be a charge but there is no time on risk. Do Distance Selling Regs apply?

Think I'd ring them and explain and hopefully you'll get a kindly understanding person the other end.

Brads67

3,199 posts

98 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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Policy is not in force so there should be no charge to cancel.

But Insewerance companies are scum so expect the worst.

Aretnap

1,650 posts

151 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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The 14 day cooling off period is a right to cancel. It's not a right to cancl for free with no consequences - the insurer has a right to charge a reasonable admin fee to cover the cost of setting up and cancelling the policy (ncluding things like non-refundable commissions paid to comparison sites.

Outside the 14 day period you have no statutory right to cancel at all, though most insurers will let you do so, just on more onerous terms.

That's the legal,position anyway. In practice if he's with ome of he better insurers then in light of the circumstances hopefully they'll waive the fee - though they don't have to, so you're largely dependent on their better mature.

shep1001

4,599 posts

189 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Regardless of if he is driving or not, do you not need continuous insurance, if only to cover the vehicle for fire & theft whilst it is SORN or until he sells it?

tony wright

Original Poster:

1,004 posts

250 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Thanks for replies. I'll await the return E mail and see what they say,. Real reason for my thread was trying to gauge if they would charge him an admin fee, so presently a 50/50 chance. Not sure he will continue to insure it once SORN'd, its value is low and he keeps it in a private locked (large gates) compound.

speedking31

3,556 posts

136 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Continuous Insurance legislation doesn't care how big the gates are or how low the value of the vehicle.

ging84

8,883 posts

146 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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speedking31 said:
Continuous Insurance legislation doesn't care how big the gates are or how low the value of the vehicle.
What is you point?
They care if it's sorned, and he said once sorned

speedking31

3,556 posts

136 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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GPWM.

tony wright

Original Poster:

1,004 posts

250 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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As mentioned above I'm not sure what your getting atconfused My Son is presently serving in Iraq and his car has been SORN'd for the last six months with no insurance on it.

Edited to say, I have no idea what GPWM stands for.

Edited by tony wright on Sunday 19th February 18:07


Forget my last I've just googled it, maybe should of done that firstlaugh

Edited by tony wright on Sunday 19th February 18:11

Skyrat

1,185 posts

190 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Having read my policy T&Cs at the start of a new policy, there was indeed a mention of an admin charge for cancelling, even within the cooling off period. The fking sharks get you every way they can.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,323 posts

150 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Skyrat said:
Having read my policy T&Cs at the start of a new policy, there was indeed a mention of an admin charge for cancelling, even within the cooling off period. The fking sharks get you every way they can.
They've issued a policy and will have to cancel it. It's cost them time and money. A reasonable admin fee seems entirely reasonable. You think they are sharks because they aren't running a charity?

konark

1,103 posts

119 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Depends on the company but LV won.t charge if the policy has not yet commenced.

Du1point8

21,606 posts

192 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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I thought the insurance companies had a mitigating circumstances policy in place, so something like this they might just cancel and wave the fee as they don't want to lose rep by charging... Especially since this is not a case of buyers remorse that has resulted in the cancellation needing to go forward, plus the policy has not even started.

Steve57

2,159 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Give them a shove and they can waive the admin charge, we have just managed the same with esure, decided to sell one of the fleet to be replaced on March 1st, sold quicker than expected so when we cancelled they said no option to hold it until march (two week limit so they say) anyway wife speaks to them yesterday and the old car now gone for 9 days is still insured by us eek erm no we cancelled it!!! few minutes later we get a figure which doesnt seem true, when questioned he waived the £65 admin fee for the cockup.

tony wright

Original Poster:

1,004 posts

250 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Update. Collected Stepfather from hospital today and when home rang the insurance company. Spoke to a very helpful lady called Shona and within a minute or two everything was cancelled and all admin charges waivedsmile. He will recieve a full refund within the next five days, so a big thank you to Provident insurance.

OverSteery

3,607 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Aretnap said:
The 14 day cooling off period is a right to cancel. It's not a right to cancl for free with no consequences - the insurer has a right to charge a reasonable admin fee to cover the cost of setting up and cancelling the policy (ncluding things like non-refundable commissions paid to comparison sites.

Outside the 14 day period you have no statutory right to cancel at all, though most insurers will let you do so, just on more onerous terms.

That's the legal,position anyway. In practice if he's with ome of he better insurers then in light of the circumstances hopefully they'll waive the fee - though they don't have to, so you're largely dependent on their better mature.
Is that so? you don't have a right to cancel. That's a bit scary, without the the ability to cancel, you are in some ways prevented from selling your car, given that the next owner may not insure it, so your policy remains in place - albeit with you in breach of contract.... I guess is this a legal hypothetical?


KevinCamaroSS

11,615 posts

280 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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OverSteery said:
Is that so? you don't have a right to cancel. That's a bit scary, without the the ability to cancel, you are in some ways prevented from selling your car, given that the next owner may not insure it, so your policy remains in place - albeit with you in breach of contract.... I guess is this a legal hypothetical?
??? You can cancel a policy at any time, for a fee. If you sell your car and inform the insurer that it is sold and cancel your policy (or transfer it to a new vehicle) your insurance policy details will be removed against the old car from MID. Your insurance does not continue on the car you have sold.

Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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OverSteery said:
Aretnap said:
The 14 day cooling off period is a right to cancel. It's not a right to cancl for free with no consequences - the insurer has a right to charge a reasonable admin fee to cover the cost of setting up and cancelling the policy (ncluding things like non-refundable commissions paid to comparison sites.

Outside the 14 day period you have no statutory right to cancel at all, though most insurers will let you do so, just on more onerous terms.

That's the legal,position anyway. In practice if he's with ome of he better insurers then in light of the circumstances hopefully they'll waive the fee - though they don't have to, so you're largely dependent on their better mature.
Is that so? you don't have a right to cancel. That's a bit scary, without the the ability to cancel, you are in some ways prevented from selling your car, given that the next owner may not insure it, so your policy remains in place - albeit with you in breach of contract.... I guess is this a legal hypothetical?
I've highlighted the key word that seems to have passed you by. You can cancel any contract at any time, but the terms of cancellation are dictated by the contract, not the law.

OverSteery

3,607 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Gavia said:
OverSteery said:
Aretnap said:
The 14 day cooling off period is a right to cancel. It's not a right to cancl for free with no consequences - the insurer has a right to charge a reasonable admin fee to cover the cost of setting up and cancelling the policy (ncluding things like non-refundable commissions paid to comparison sites.

Outside the 14 day period you have no statutory right to cancel at all, though most insurers will let you do so, just on more onerous terms.

That's the legal,position anyway. In practice if he's with ome of he better insurers then in light of the circumstances hopefully they'll waive the fee - though they don't have to, so you're largely dependent on their better mature.
Is that so? you don't have a right to cancel. That's a bit scary, without the the ability to cancel, you are in some ways prevented from selling your car, given that the next owner may not insure it, so your policy remains in place - albeit with you in breach of contract.... I guess is this a legal hypothetical?
I've highlighted the key word that seems to have passed you by. You can cancel any contract at any time, but the terms of cancellation are dictated by the contract, not the law.
No it did not pass me by. What if the contract is mute on cancellation terms. As I said probably a pointless hypothetical point of law.