Really? Give it a rest mate.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-390212...
For fk sake. You spent 20 years hiding from the fact you murdered an innocent kid you worthless fking , and now you want compo for getting bashed?
"He told jurors at the Old Bailey that on one occasion his client's nose was broken, his teeth were knocked out and four of his ribs were broken."
Yes yes I know, we have to treat the guilty the same as the innocent otherwise we stoop to their level but you know what, in this case, fk him.
I'm not doing this right am I?
For fk sake. You spent 20 years hiding from the fact you murdered an innocent kid you worthless fking , and now you want compo for getting bashed?
"He told jurors at the Old Bailey that on one occasion his client's nose was broken, his teeth were knocked out and four of his ribs were broken."
Yes yes I know, we have to treat the guilty the same as the innocent otherwise we stoop to their level but you know what, in this case, fk him.
I'm not doing this right am I?
He committed a crime. He received a custodial sentence. At no point during sentencing did the judge mention the suffering of regular beatings.
Whist serving a custodial sentence prisoners are the responsibility of the Home Office. They are subject to a duty of care. That duty of care requires prisoners to be kept safe. If prisons fail in that duty of care and do so negligently then those who have been failed have the right to redress.
Secret is to ensure there is sufficient funding to provide the manpower and resources to make incidents like this far less likely. The scumbaggy types don't sue, don't qualify for the upsetting payouts and we're all happy.
Whist serving a custodial sentence prisoners are the responsibility of the Home Office. They are subject to a duty of care. That duty of care requires prisoners to be kept safe. If prisons fail in that duty of care and do so negligently then those who have been failed have the right to redress.
Secret is to ensure there is sufficient funding to provide the manpower and resources to make incidents like this far less likely. The scumbaggy types don't sue, don't qualify for the upsetting payouts and we're all happy.
Tannedbaldhead said:
He committed a crime. He received a custodial sentence. At no point during sentencing did the judge mention the suffering of regular beatings.
Whist serving a custodial sentence prisoners are the responsibility of the Home Office. They are subject to a duty of care. That duty of care requires prisoners to be kept safe. If prisons fail in that duty of care and do so negligently then those who have been failed have the right to redress.
Secret is to ensure there is sufficient funding to provide the manpower and resources to make incidents like this far less likely. The scumbaggy types don't sue, don't qualify for the upsetting payouts and we're all happy.
The fact that a person like this is given a duty of care and that he is also able to attempt to sue shows that the whole system is wrong surely. I'm all for the welfare of general prisoners. But rapists and violent murderers? They gave up any 'rights' in my opinion.Whist serving a custodial sentence prisoners are the responsibility of the Home Office. They are subject to a duty of care. That duty of care requires prisoners to be kept safe. If prisons fail in that duty of care and do so negligently then those who have been failed have the right to redress.
Secret is to ensure there is sufficient funding to provide the manpower and resources to make incidents like this far less likely. The scumbaggy types don't sue, don't qualify for the upsetting payouts and we're all happy.
jmflare said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
He committed a crime. He received a custodial sentence. At no point during sentencing did the judge mention the suffering of regular beatings.
Whist serving a custodial sentence prisoners are the responsibility of the Home Office. They are subject to a duty of care. That duty of care requires prisoners to be kept safe. If prisons fail in that duty of care and do so negligently then those who have been failed have the right to redress.
Secret is to ensure there is sufficient funding to provide the manpower and resources to make incidents like this far less likely. The scumbaggy types don't sue, don't qualify for the upsetting payouts and we're all happy.
The fact that a person like this is given a duty of care and that he is also able to attempt to sue shows that the whole system is wrong surely. I'm all for the welfare of general prisoners. But rapists and violent murderers? They gave up any 'rights' in my opinion.Whist serving a custodial sentence prisoners are the responsibility of the Home Office. They are subject to a duty of care. That duty of care requires prisoners to be kept safe. If prisons fail in that duty of care and do so negligently then those who have been failed have the right to redress.
Secret is to ensure there is sufficient funding to provide the manpower and resources to make incidents like this far less likely. The scumbaggy types don't sue, don't qualify for the upsetting payouts and we're all happy.
jmflare said:
The fact that a person like this is given a duty of care and that he is also able to attempt to sue shows that the whole system is wrong surely. I'm all for the welfare of general prisoners. But rapists and violent murderers? They gave up any 'rights' in my opinion.
Did you read the linked article?He was beaten up whilst on remand, i.e. he hadn't been convicted of anything at that point.
janesmith1950 said:
jmflare said:
The fact that a person like this is given a duty of care and that he is also able to attempt to sue shows that the whole system is wrong surely. I'm all for the welfare of general prisoners. But rapists and violent murderers? They gave up any 'rights' in my opinion.
Did you read the linked article?He was beaten up whilst on remand, i.e. he hadn't been convicted of anything at that point.
janesmith1950 said:
jmflare said:
The fact that a person like this is given a duty of care and that he is also able to attempt to sue shows that the whole system is wrong surely. I'm all for the welfare of general prisoners. But rapists and violent murderers? They gave up any 'rights' in my opinion.
Did you read the linked article?He was beaten up whilst on remand, i.e. he hadn't been convicted of anything at that point.
A victim of a nasty assault, now we would call it a hate crime, started an action against the offender. It seemed odd to me as the assailant had no money.
I was chatting to the victim, an intelligent, pleasant chap who ran his own successful business, before court when he told me and I asked why. He said that there was a time limit to such actions and as he'd started it if the bloke ever got any money, he'd sue a certain bit of anatomy off him, which given the nature of the crime was a bit worrying.
I know little/nothing about civil matters but are their time limits for such actions?
He should be allowed to sue. If he was not treated properly then he's entitled to compensation. Just as much as the family of the victim is to take it off him.
I was chatting to the victim, an intelligent, pleasant chap who ran his own successful business, before court when he told me and I asked why. He said that there was a time limit to such actions and as he'd started it if the bloke ever got any money, he'd sue a certain bit of anatomy off him, which given the nature of the crime was a bit worrying.
I know little/nothing about civil matters but are their time limits for such actions?
He should be allowed to sue. If he was not treated properly then he's entitled to compensation. Just as much as the family of the victim is to take it off him.
The family had to go through so fking much to get this scum put away.
and now that same system in threatening to reward this same scum with compo' ?
you've got to be fking kidding me.
If he is awarded anything, it should all be diverted to the family who's child they brutally murdered for no fking reason.
and now that same system in threatening to reward this same scum with compo' ?
you've got to be fking kidding me.
If he is awarded anything, it should all be diverted to the family who's child they brutally murdered for no fking reason.
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