Really? Give it a rest mate.

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br d

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8,403 posts

227 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-390212...

For fk sake. You spent 20 years hiding from the fact you murdered an innocent kid you worthless fking , and now you want compo for getting bashed?

"He told jurors at the Old Bailey that on one occasion his client's nose was broken, his teeth were knocked out and four of his ribs were broken."

Yes yes I know, we have to treat the guilty the same as the innocent otherwise we stoop to their level but you know what, in this case, fk him.

I'm not doing this right am I?


eldar

21,795 posts

197 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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No problem, just as long as the taxpayer doesn't bear any of the costs.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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No its all good the more he keeps getting his face in the paper the more times he gets beat up

Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

133 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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He committed a crime. He received a custodial sentence. At no point during sentencing did the judge mention the suffering of regular beatings.

Whist serving a custodial sentence prisoners are the responsibility of the Home Office. They are subject to a duty of care. That duty of care requires prisoners to be kept safe. If prisons fail in that duty of care and do so negligently then those who have been failed have the right to redress.

Secret is to ensure there is sufficient funding to provide the manpower and resources to make incidents like this far less likely. The scumbaggy types don't sue, don't qualify for the upsetting payouts and we're all happy.

KAgantua

3,883 posts

132 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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horrible from horrible family living horrible life shock

jmflare

413 posts

142 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Tannedbaldhead said:
He committed a crime. He received a custodial sentence. At no point during sentencing did the judge mention the suffering of regular beatings.

Whist serving a custodial sentence prisoners are the responsibility of the Home Office. They are subject to a duty of care. That duty of care requires prisoners to be kept safe. If prisons fail in that duty of care and do so negligently then those who have been failed have the right to redress.

Secret is to ensure there is sufficient funding to provide the manpower and resources to make incidents like this far less likely. The scumbaggy types don't sue, don't qualify for the upsetting payouts and we're all happy.
The fact that a person like this is given a duty of care and that he is also able to attempt to sue shows that the whole system is wrong surely. I'm all for the welfare of general prisoners. But rapists and violent murderers? They gave up any 'rights' in my opinion.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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jmflare said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
He committed a crime. He received a custodial sentence. At no point during sentencing did the judge mention the suffering of regular beatings.

Whist serving a custodial sentence prisoners are the responsibility of the Home Office. They are subject to a duty of care. That duty of care requires prisoners to be kept safe. If prisons fail in that duty of care and do so negligently then those who have been failed have the right to redress.

Secret is to ensure there is sufficient funding to provide the manpower and resources to make incidents like this far less likely. The scumbaggy types don't sue, don't qualify for the upsetting payouts and we're all happy.
The fact that a person like this is given a duty of care and that he is also able to attempt to sue shows that the whole system is wrong surely. I'm all for the welfare of general prisoners. But rapists and violent murderers? They gave up any 'rights' in my opinion.
Your opinion carries no weight in law.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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jmflare said:
The fact that a person like this is given a duty of care and that he is also able to attempt to sue shows that the whole system is wrong surely. I'm all for the welfare of general prisoners. But rapists and violent murderers? They gave up any 'rights' in my opinion.
Did you read the linked article?

He was beaten up whilst on remand, i.e. he hadn't been convicted of anything at that point.

LocoCoco

1,428 posts

177 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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janesmith1950 said:
jmflare said:
The fact that a person like this is given a duty of care and that he is also able to attempt to sue shows that the whole system is wrong surely. I'm all for the welfare of general prisoners. But rapists and violent murderers? They gave up any 'rights' in my opinion.
Did you read the linked article?

He was beaten up whilst on remand, i.e. he hadn't been convicted of anything at that point.
and all the people who've been wrongly convicted of rape or murder. They don't deserve daily beatings on top of their sentence.

Kermit power

28,674 posts

214 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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janesmith1950 said:
jmflare said:
The fact that a person like this is given a duty of care and that he is also able to attempt to sue shows that the whole system is wrong surely. I'm all for the welfare of general prisoners. But rapists and violent murderers? They gave up any 'rights' in my opinion.
Did you read the linked article?

He was beaten up whilst on remand, i.e. he hadn't been convicted of anything at that point.
Has something changed in our legislation to make him suddenly decide to sue 6 years after the event?

Derek Smith

45,687 posts

249 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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A victim of a nasty assault, now we would call it a hate crime, started an action against the offender. It seemed odd to me as the assailant had no money.

I was chatting to the victim, an intelligent, pleasant chap who ran his own successful business, before court when he told me and I asked why. He said that there was a time limit to such actions and as he'd started it if the bloke ever got any money, he'd sue a certain bit of anatomy off him, which given the nature of the crime was a bit worrying.

I know little/nothing about civil matters but are their time limits for such actions?

He should be allowed to sue. If he was not treated properly then he's entitled to compensation. Just as much as the family of the victim is to take it off him.


SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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The family had to go through so fking much to get this scum put away.
and now that same system in threatening to reward this same scum with compo' ?
you've got to be fking kidding me.
If he is awarded anything, it should all be diverted to the family who's child they brutally murdered for no fking reason.

PurpleAki

1,601 posts

88 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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He's a racist aggro who tries to throw his weight around while inside and found out to his cost that there's people harder than him.

Cry me a river.


del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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He has rights...

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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del mar said:
He has rights...
...the right to barely live long enough to serve his sentence.
and then drop dead on the pavement outside the moment he's released