Recruitment Agencies / unproffes sweary vent...

Recruitment Agencies / unproffes sweary vent...

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mmmunch

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233 posts

126 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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I've been contracting for the last 5 or so years and whilst I've enjoyed the renumeration and flexibility I've been hankering after going back into a full time role. My last contract finished in December and although it paid well and we've been having building work done on our house (that has been good to be around for), it has meant that I don't have to work straight away I would rather be busy doing proper work.

Last week I was in a position to be offered 2 full time roles within 12 hours. Both prospectives were aware I had been offered another role and I didn't use the situation to demand more money etc, just clarification of terms so I could make an informed choice as both were similar (ish) roles in slightly different areas- both I was quite happy to do, right level etc.

Of course both recruitment agencies / consultants were pushing their individual clients so I made my choice and sat waiting for the paperwork to come through on Friday. Nothing came and after chasing this morning nothing. Low and behold this afternoon I received a mail from the HR manager direct (not the agency) saying:

Hi mmmunch,
Sorry for not coming back to you on Friday, our MD has decided to change the (not correct job title) role and is now looking for someone more junior.

I do apologise.

Jane

What the monkey fk??

I spoke with the Director at the agency and all they could say was 'I'm really sorry'. I was absolutely steaming and told them how unprofessional it was amongst other sweary words as I'd rejected the other role on the basis of their offer..

Of course I've been in touch with the other agency but it looks like I've burnt my bridges (well it feels like it anyway).

I'm just fking fuming that large companies can behave in that way- they knew full well that I'd turned down the other offer for them, but they chose to wait two working days to tell me. I know its not the end of the world, but all my roles a specialised food based ones and I was fortunate that 2 appeared at the same time.

Of course, the other company may still want me (as they stopped the interview process when they met me) but I can't help but feel that if I was in that hiring position I wouldn't want someone who thought that we were second best. that said, I've got the MD's number and thought about dropping them a text/call and tell them I've made the wrong choice...

Not particularly interesting but I just wanted to vent!

Actually apologies for the actual lack of swearing.... 1/10 for effort..

edc

9,230 posts

250 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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So your rant while totally justified is nothing to do with the recruitment agents who were part of the process ...

Royce44

394 posts

112 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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edc said:
So your rant while totally justified is nothing to do with the recruitment agents who were part of the process ...
Glad it's not just me.

57 Chevy

5,409 posts

234 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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edc said:
So your rant while totally justified is nothing to do with the recruitment agents who were part of the process ...
Isn't it because they don't like giving bad news and sat on the fact that the offer had been withdrawn for a few days and even then the OP had to find out directly?

p1stonhead

25,489 posts

166 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Royce44 said:
edc said:
So your rant while totally justified is nothing to do with the recruitment agents who were part of the process ...
Glad it's not just me.
+1 ranting at the wrong people altogether.

MitchT

15,788 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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My OH and me have both had the same - "the client has decided the role is going to be more junior, but would you still be interested?" "Erm ... no, tell the client to do one".

Back on topic though, yes, they can be annoying. The one I usually get is them messaging me on LinkedIn asking if I know anyone who'd be interested in a role they've got and could I tell said person to get in touch with them if I do happen to know anyone. "Erm, no. Feck off and do your own work! In the meantime, if you have a job for ME than feel free to get in touch."

Orchid1

877 posts

107 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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It's the oldest trick in the book for recruiters. Advertise a job and salary, get people in for interviews, at the end tell them they have another position with the same company but more junior one with salary to match and ask if you'd be interested in that as well.

If you say yes then surprise surprise you get offered the lower one, if you say no then you never hear from them again for some reason.

mmmunch

Original Poster:

233 posts

126 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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I think my frustration was that the client came back to me direct, rather than the consultant at the agency (who I would have expected to field that question).

I see them the same as estate agents, if my buyer (or seller) is pulling out of the deal I would expect the estate agent, not the buyer/seller to tell me.

At the end of the day they have lost their 20% of my salary commission and strangely not a peep from them today. If that had been me I would have been talking to my client to find out exactly what prompted this so I can at least go back to my candidate and explain fully so I don't look like a complete idiot... but perhaps that's just me and the way I work...


davek_964

8,796 posts

174 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Maybe it's just me, but I would not have rejected anything until I had the paperwork for the role I was accepting.

Hughesie

12,568 posts

281 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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mmmunch said:
I've got the MD's number and thought about dropping them a text/call and tell them I've made the wrong choice...
But you didnt make the wrong choice, you made the right choice and they backed out of it (It happens), why not just tell the prospective employer that and that you are still interested in this role.

Why lie about it ?


meehaja

607 posts

107 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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I tried contracting after being offered a very tasty job, where the peculiar skill set matched me perfectly and I was genuinely interested in the project. It was offered at equivilent of NHS band 8B (£46-£57k) in Bradford (I live in Leeds). by the time we got to second interview they offered me band 6 (£26-£35k) in Shefield. Absolute waste of time and effort. Agence response was, yeah we thought they might change it but thought you'd be ok with that as you're only on 8A at the moment. Yeah, I'd love a £15 pay cut, and a 120mile a day commute to work on a project where they can't decide if the project lead is a junior or senior role and haven't yet decided how long the fixed term is.

flipping amateurs!