Smart Meters ITV Tonight

[Order66]

lost in espace said:

when I saw smart meters being offered by E.ON for free, it seemed like a good idea. Install in March, all booked.

I am now thinking of cancelling. I think in a few years I might be better off having a standard meter, its a bit like water meters where you are a large user of water and would be worse off with a meter.

You need to ask yourself a few simple questions - what is the benefit to you? Is it simply not having to read a meter? Do you think the cost involved in this install is simply to save you reading the meter?

And for anyone thinking this is tinfoil hat stuff, look up locational marginal pricing. This is already happening on the transmission side and will work its way to distribution. It also removes true competition (not that there is any) from the market for the end-consumer as moving-target pricing based on location and demand is impossible for the consumer to manage and ensure they are getting a good deal.

[Cold]

That will be £19825.17 please

[rodericb]

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/1703...

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/03/7500...

[Jazzy Jag]

Cold said:

That will be £19825.17 please

High Electricity consumption!!

How are the crops in your loft coming along?

[ikarl]

footnote said:

Even the energy companies in their tv adverts can only come up with 'saving you the trouble of reading your own meter' as the key reason why you should contribute to the billions spent on smart meters.

If that's all they can come up with, God help us!

It's so obviously for their benefit, yet people/consumers seemingly can't perceive that fact. What's that about?

Ok, lets go with your version..... can you quote any CEO from ANY of the electricity or gas suppliers in the U.K. stating that smart meters are a good option? and that they would have chosen to go Smart for the UK?

I'll stretch that slightly further as well, you can include any CEO from any of he transmission or distribution businesses as well.

[Cold]

Jazzy Jag said:

High Electricity consumption!!

How are the crops in your loft coming along?

Mine are doing great. But then I've tapped into the lamppost at the end of my garden.

[Ed.]

rodericb said:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/1703...

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/03/7500...

Fitting basic over-reading meters is a lot easier than fitting smart meters to gather data for future price increases even if the customer has to pay for it.

[wc98]

Jazzy Jag said:

High Electricity consumption!!

How are the crops in your loft coming along?

loft ? it must be a bloody warehouse !

[Yipper]

0000 said:

R8Steve said:

No, i don't.

There is no microphones in them and i don't believe i'll ever start referring to my electricity meter as a possible attack vector and worrying about whether an RFID chip in my girlfriends hairdryer is secretly creating a radar map of my house to see what i'm doing or if i'm in or not.

I don't see why anyone would be even be remotely (no pun intended) interested in any of this information in any case but if foreign agencies want to know when i go to the toilet or watch a film it's a risk i'm willing to take.

I'm sure you and many others are willing to take the risk. That doesn't mean they won't be exploiting them.

Quite.

WikiLeaks today showing how smart meters, smart TVs, smart voice assistants, smart phones, etc. are being actively used by the CIA to monitor targets in the home.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-an...

[saaby93]

Yipper said:

Quite.

WikiLeaks today showing how smart meters, smart TVs, smart voice assistants, smart phones, etc. are being actively used by the CIA to monitor targets in the home.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-an...

Isn't the UK well ahead of the rest of the world for tracking tools with use of ANPR anyway

[Matthen]

Jazzy Jag said:

Cold said:

That will be £19825.17 please

High Electricity consumption!!

How are the crops in your loft coming along?

Also impossible, whoever programmed them needs to be sacked.

Typically mid size houses have 100A fuses. So, max draw 100A @ 230 V = 23,000 W or 23KW -

a 23KWh * 24 hours = 552 KWh/Units * 0.13p = 71 quid. It would have been the simplest thing to add in a line of code that throws an error rather than outputting obscene numbers.

[BlackLabel]

"No-one's noticed, but the Tories are quietly killing off the smart meter revolution
ROSS ANDERSON
PROFESSOR OF SECURITY ENGINEERING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CAMBRIDGE"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/...

[Tuna]

BlackLabel said:

"No-one's noticed, but the Tories are quietly killing off the smart meter revolution
ROSS ANDERSON
PROFESSOR OF SECURITY ENGINEERING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CAMBRIDGE"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/...

Please let it be so.

Edited to add:

I've just had an email from EON. Apparently the meter fitted only two years ago is being 'phased out' and will be replaced for free by a smart meter.

Hmmmm....

[Megaflow]

Tuna said:

Please let it be so.

Edited to add:

I've just had an email from EON. Apparently the meter fitted only two years ago is being 'phased out' and will be replaced for free by a smart meter.

Hmmmm....

The original meters cannot be transferred between suppliers, I'd guess the new one they are fitting can be.

[jshell]

Tuna said:

Please let it be so.

Edited to add:

I've just had an email from EON. Apparently the meter fitted only two years ago is being 'phased out' and will be replaced for free by a smart meter.

Hmmmm....

fk that!

[FiF]

BlackLabel said:

"No-one's noticed, but the Tories are quietly killing off the smart meter revolution
ROSS ANDERSON
PROFESSOR OF SECURITY ENGINEERING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CAMBRIDGE"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/...

Bit underwhelming really, ok so the change of wording from installed to offered winds the commitment back, probably 80% have already been offered one. But he makes a big deal of the non compulsory nature of the change, when it wasn't compulsory in the first place.

However glad to see that they are being more sensible than previously. Long way to go on energy policy however.

[footnote]

BlackLabel said:

"No-one's noticed, but the Tories are quietly killing off the smart meter revolution
ROSS ANDERSON
PROFESSOR OF SECURITY ENGINEERING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CAMBRIDGE"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/...

Yay!!! Result!

Here's hoping that's the end of Daft Meters.

[anonymous-user]

My brother has had the "Eon letter" 3 times now
No ones ever popped round to ask him directly

[Rovinghawk]

Tuna said:

I've just had an email from EON. Apparently the meter fitted only two years ago is being 'phased out' and will be replaced for free by a smart meter.

Hmmmm....

Mine was less than five months old when I got the same offer.

[Tuna]

Rovinghawk said:

Tuna said:

I've just had an email from EON. Apparently the meter fitted only two years ago is being 'phased out' and will be replaced for free by a smart meter.

Hmmmm....

Mine was less than five months old when I got the same offer.

Thing is we live out in the sticks where phone and radio reception is.. patchy at best. Their smart meter would have no-one to talk to.