Milo Yiannopoulos.

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Mr Snrub

24,965 posts

227 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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This is the original, from about 56:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azC1nm85btY

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Randy Winkman said:
A sort of male Katie Hopkins.
Eric Mc said:
A right wing Russell Brand?
idea

The lovechild of Brand and Hopkins?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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I've seen a few of his videos. IMO he's a very smart guy, he's also an arrogant bully who delights in 'destroying' interviewers, who to be fair usually deserve it. I think the comparison above with Russell Brand was quite a good one although Milo is vastly more influential (or dangerous, take your pick). The left despise him because they had absolutely no idea how to deal with him; straight, white, American man, easy; he's a Nazi. Gay, Jewish, libertarian immigrant with perportedly a history of black boyfriends; fvcking system failure. He doesn't exist in the illiberal playbook for the hard of thinking. Racist! Xenophobe! Homophobic! Nazi! Nope doesn't shut him up. Peado! Well they got there in the end. Just in time for him to make a few extra million from his book. If the original (unedited) comments hadn't been out there for a year already I'd have put money on him orchestrating this whole thing.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Dindoit said:
I always feel slightly grubby when I agree with something JO'B or KH says. That said I don't see O'Brien as a troll in the same way as Hopkins. She takes a deliberately controversial position on a subject, often creating the subject herself. He reacts to her (or Farage's etc.) position and takes the opposite view. You get the feeling sometimes neither truly believes what they're saying but they feel compelled to say it to keep their stock high.

As you say they're opposite sides of the same coin, a coin that tbh should be thrown down a well.
Indeed, one of the best bits of her ill thought out rantings was on Phil Schofield's show. biggrin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVXurL0jyhs

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Dindoit said:
I always feel slightly grubby when I agree with something JO'B or KH says. That said I don't see O'Brien as a troll in the same way as Hopkins. She takes a deliberately controversial position on a subject, often creating the subject herself. He reacts to her (or Farage's etc.) position and takes the opposite view. You get the feeling sometimes neither truly believes what they're saying but they feel compelled to say it to keep their stock high.

As you say they're opposite sides of the same coin, a coin that tbh should be thrown down a well.
Indeed, one of the best bits of her ill thought out rantings was on Phil Schofield's show. biggrin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVXurL0jyhs

princealbert23

2,575 posts

161 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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El stovey said:
ofcorsa said:
Milo nails it in the press conference, the rage is not about protecting children from pedophiles. It's faux outrage to try and deny him a platform.
Dindoit explains it better two posts above.
No he doesn't

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Dindoit said:
They were all happy to cosy up to his act when he was just a racist, Islamophobic misogynist.
Source for misogynist.

Please

He's never struck me as anti women.

fblm said:
I've seen a few of his videos. IMO he's a very smart guy, he's also an arrogant bully who delights in 'destroying' interviewers, who to be fair usually deserve it. I think the comparison above with Russell Brand was quite a good one although Milo is vastly more influential (or dangerous, take your pick). The left despise him because they had absolutely no idea how to deal with him; straight, white, American man, easy; he's a Nazi. Gay, Jewish, libertarian immigrant with perportedly a history of black boyfriends; fvcking system failure. He doesn't exist in the illiberal playbook for the hard of thinking. Racist! Xenophobe! Homophobic! Nazi! Nope doesn't shut him up. Peado! Well they got there in the end. Just in time for him to make a few extra million from his book. If the original (unedited) comments hadn't been out there for a year already I'd have put money on him orchestrating this whole thing.
I agree. But with the slight difference that Brand is not even in the same ball park intelligence wise. Brand doesn't have arguments or facts to back up his claim. He's a typical lefty (like we see in here occasionally) They spout and accuses those who don't share their view to be racists Nazis etc. The never back up their opinions. And anyone that counters them with actual facts from decent sources is instantly dismissed.

Regarding James O Brian, he's not a troll imo. He's just a typical sanctimonious far lefty. I sometimes agree with him. But I daresay the far left would never agree with someone who considers himself centre right like me biggrin

Edited by Rich_W on Wednesday 22 February 20:18

Mr Snrub

24,965 posts

227 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Rich_W said:
Dindoit said:
They were all happy to cosy up to his act when he was just a racist, Islamophobic misogynist.
Source for misogynist.

Please

He's never struck me as anti women.
I'd like a source for the racism bit as well. As he points out to those who accuse him of it, the amount of black cock he's had must make him the most self-loathing white supremacist in history

Dindoit

1,645 posts

94 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Mr Snrub said:
Rich_W said:
Dindoit said:
They were all happy to cosy up to his act when he was just a racist, Islamophobic misogynist.
Source for misogynist.

Please

He's never struck me as anti women.
I'd like a source for the racism bit as well. As he points out to those who accuse him of it, the amount of black cock he's had must make him the most self-loathing white supremacist in history
Slave owners can't be racist because they fed them and gave them clothing and everything.

As for misogynist look up "Well bh? I'm waiting", "feminism is cancer", "abused women should log off" etc.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Rich_W said:
I agree. But with the slight difference that Brand is not even in the same ball park intelligence wise.
You're probably right but I think he dumbs it down for his occupy idiot audience to be fair.

Mr Snrub

24,965 posts

227 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Dindoit said:
Mr Snrub said:
Rich_W said:
Dindoit said:
They were all happy to cosy up to his act when he was just a racist, Islamophobic misogynist.
Source for misogynist.

Please

He's never struck me as anti women.
I'd like a source for the racism bit as well. As he points out to those who accuse him of it, the amount of black cock he's had must make him the most self-loathing white supremacist in history
Slave owners can't be racist because they fed them and gave them clothing and everything.

As for misogynist look up "Well bh? I'm waiting", "feminism is cancer", "abused women should log off" etc.
Did slave owners readily take them to be their boyfriends?

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Dindoit said:
As for misogynist look up "Well bh? I'm waiting",
That's the standard "wheres my sandwich" nonsense. Not sure it counts as misogynistic though. Poor taste I grant you. But no woman I want to associate with would ever be offended by it. Most would see it as a st joke and tell me to fk off. laugh

Dindoit said:
"feminism is cancer",
Modern feminism may not be Cancer. But it is VERY toxic. And does preoccupy itself with misandry and Social justice/virtue signalling far more than actual womens issues. You NEVER hear modern feminists talk about FGM or the rights of women in Arab countries. No, they complain about man spreading or inventing the myth about the wage gap.


Dindoit said:
"abused women should log off" etc.
It's a point of view. People who abuse women needlessly online will only do so if there is a reaction by that woman. If you ignore them it hurts even more.
HOWEVER. Note the word needlessly. Some women do actually deserve ire/castigation or mocking for their views or actions. Just like some men do.

Recently a video I watched of a British girls YT channel is where she is talking about her love life and how its crap and how she's essentially waiting for a multi millionaire to come and take her away. She's worth it, She shouldn't settle just because she's been single for years and is now hurtling towards her mid 30s and wants kids. she may not have said those phrases but it's obvious to anyone watching.

The sort of a narcissism some women have developed these days. She's not actually bringing anything to the table but her looks. (which I like, but appreciate not everyone will) Shes not clever or quirky or even that successful. But assumes someone way out her league is out there waiting for her. (And yes we see this with Guys too)

People criticised her, some more expressively than I would accept, for being a moron. But she said it was terrible the online abuse she was receiving. YouTube is terrible etc etc. When she has no idea how idiotically she has portrayed herself.

Legmaster

1,159 posts

207 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Randy Winkman said:
KTF said:
I have absolutely no idea who this is.
A sort of male Katie Hopkins.
So Katie Hopkins then ?
hehe

Dindoit

1,645 posts

94 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Rich_W said:
Dindoit said:
"abused women should log off" etc.
It's a point of view.
It's classic victim blaming

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Dindoit said:
Rich_W said:
Dindoit said:
"abused women should log off" etc.
It's a point of view.
It's classic victim blaming
Only if the victim hasn't done anything to encourage the problem by abusing others online.

The whole Ghostbusters thing was a case in point. Actress in question had previously asked her fans to attack her critics online. Which is exactly what Milo, if not directly asked for, didn't exactly quash it when it happened.

If words are weapons. Then best make sure your own vocabulary is beyond reproach.

Mr Snrub

24,965 posts

227 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Rich_W said:
Dindoit said:
Rich_W said:
Dindoit said:
"abused women should log off" etc.
It's a point of view.
It's classic victim blaming
Only if the victim hasn't done anything to encourage the problem by abusing others online.

The whole Ghostbusters thing was a case in point. Actress in question had previously asked her fans to attack her critics online. Which is exactly what Milo, if not directly asked for, didn't exactly quash it when it happened.

If words are weapons. Then best make sure your own vocabulary is beyond reproach.
Jones also had no problem tweeting out things such as being sick of "white people sh*t", or how they look alike, before the incident. That's not to excuse the racist abuse she did receive, because that was abhorrent. But being the target of "heartless internet trolls" makes a good article and way of raising the profile of certain celebrities. In that case it made great PR for a terrible film that no one bothered to go and see anyway. Half the things written on here would qualify as trolling or hate speech if they were tweeted to a celebrity.

steveatesh

4,897 posts

164 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Dindoit said:
Slave owners can't be racist because they fed them and gave them clothing and everything.

As for misogynist look up ..............., "feminism is cancer", ................ etc.
I'm unclear how being anti feminist makes you a misogynist given that there are male feminists and actually only a small minority of women admit to being a feminist in the U.K. (Circa 7% IIRC).

Feminism is an ideology, and being against that ideology doesn't make anybody a misogynist it just means you are against feminism.

Being called a misogynyst is of course the standard attack response of feminists who are triggered if anybody disagreees with them or says anything against their ideology. But like a lot of what feminists say, it's wrong.

Dindoit

1,645 posts

94 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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The feminism comment, since you snipped out the other references, is simply an example of his attitude towards women. He doesn't attack radical feminists, the type anyone but a radical feminist hates, he puts anyone, man (beta cucks) or woman, standing up for women's issues into one big bag and labels it cancer.

He doesn't address issues. He's lazy and just calls them fat
"They check ID for alcohol purchases if you look younger than 35, but do they weigh feminists before serving them venti frappuchinos? No.

Some cancer sufferers smoke medicinal marijuana to help with their appetite. Feminists, of course, don’t need any help with their appetite."

Ugly
"Just because they can’t get any sex, they want the rest of us to have deserts down there too

College may turn you into an extremely unloveable woman."

Or fat and ugly
"College may quadruple your body piercings and quintuple your BMI."

TwigtheWonderkid

43,327 posts

150 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Randy Winkman said:
KTF said:
I have absolutely no idea who this is.
A sort of male Katie Hopkins.
So Katie Hopkins then ?
rofl