Cressida Dick is the new Met commissioner

Cressida Dick is the new Met commissioner

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hidetheelephants

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23,754 posts

192 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Blimey. Hardly an unblemished career.

stevensdrs

3,208 posts

199 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Unbelievable! Promoted out of harms way perhaps?

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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She's only blemished in the eyes of those who don't actually know what she did and didn't do during her career and Menezes.

stevensdrs said:
Unbelievable! Promoted out of harms way perhaps?
That makes sense, you remove someone from harm's way by giving them a more powerful position...

She retired in 2015 and has rejoined as Commissioner.

brenflys777

2,678 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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I've got no connection with the Met Police, but some of the most respected 'gaffers' speak highly of her.

Cressida seems to have respect from people as diverse as Lee Jasper, Sadiq Khan and Theresa May. To achieve that and be respected by frontline officers seems quite impressive to me. The Menendes inquiry resulted in no blame being attached to her and she backed her officers as having acted in good faith rather than throwing them under a bus.

She seems to be effective and straight, something I was never convinced about with Hogan Howe.


hidetheelephants

Original Poster:

23,754 posts

192 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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The obsequious toadying going on at the press event was dire, she was described as modest, unassuming, liked by all; I was disappointed someone didn't describe her as a promising footballer. The mayor's waffling was particularly risible. biggrin You don't get to be commissioner of the met by being modest or unassuming; ambition, experience, competence and good luck are more likely attributes.

MrBarry123

6,025 posts

120 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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hehe

Dick

hehe

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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brenflys777 said:
The Menendes inquiry resulted in no blame being attached to her
Of course not. Nobody got any blame.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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brenflys777 said:
Cressida seems to have respect from people as diverse as Lee Jasper, Sadiq Khan and Theresa May. To achieve that and be respected by frontline officers seems quite impressive to me.
Was getting a bit worried there when you said Jasper respects her but I think he's changed his mind now so she can't be all that bad.

Jasper on Twitter...

"I know her personally. This is not good for Black or Muslim Londoners"

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeeJasper/status/834417...

brenflys777

2,678 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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BlackLabel said:
brenflys777 said:
Cressida seems to have respect from people as diverse as Lee Jasper, Sadiq Khan and Theresa May. To achieve that and be respected by frontline officers seems quite impressive to me.
Was getting a bit worried there when you said Jasper respects her but I think he's changed his mind now so she can't be all that bad.

Jasper on Twitter...

"I know her personally. This is not good for Black or Muslim Londoners"

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeeJasper/status/834417...
He's definitely changed his mind then! 2006 Guardian article he said this:

"She is a firefly, small, diminutive and red-hot. She is not into flamboyant gestures but she is an exceptional officer and a tough cookie"

In fairness, I haven't seen a pleasant quote about anyone from Jasper in a very long time.

brenflys777

2,678 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Rovinghawk said:
brenflys777 said:
The Menendes inquiry resulted in no blame being attached to her
Of course not. Nobody got any blame.
There was lots of criticism of the Police, their protocols and the tragic death of someone who wasn't a terrorist.

I think there was also a pragmatic acceptance that the Police & Security Service Officers who were involved were doing their best to protect the public and running towards the danger. Cressida Dick has expressed regret about the death, but nothing can change that now, better that those involved can learn from the mistakes seen through hindsight rather than blackball everyone involved in operation.

dandarez

13,246 posts

282 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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I heard this morning she might get the job. Dead cert!

Cressida Rose Dick.
Perhaps to follow Bernard Hogan-Howe you need the right name?
And to have link to/with Common Purpose?

Years back she was operations superintendent here in Oxford, and then as area commander in Oxford for a few years.
Seems Thames Valley get the good 'uns.
Like Oxford's Thames Valley Chief Constable Sara Thornton, who presided over the mass abuse scandal here. She left amid mass controversy.
To obscurity?
Nope, she is now chair of the National Police Chiefs' Council.

Ah well.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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brenflys777 said:
There was lots of criticism of the Police, their protocols and the tragic death of someone who wasn't a terrorist.
Totally unwarranted- all they did was kill someone for no good reason.

brenflys777 said:
I think there was also a pragmatic acceptance that the Police & Security Service Officers who were involved were doing their best to protect the public
Killing people to protect them? That's like fking for virginity.

brenflys777 said:
Cressida Dick has expressed regret about the death
Very good of her. That makes it so much better.

brenflys777 said:
better that those involved can learn from the mistakes
Lessons will be learned?

This 'danger' that all the chaps were running towards- it didn't actually exist. I feel that this is quite relevant.

In precis- she ordered the death of an innocent man on the basis of nothing substantial yet has been promoted to the top job. I'm not proud of / impressed by the system.

XCP

16,875 posts

227 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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So you think one of the other candidates should have got the job? Or someone else entirely?

dandarez

13,246 posts

282 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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XCP said:
So you think one of the other candidates should have got the job? Or someone else entirely?
Re my earlier post I've just heard on the news (it seems the main news tonight apart from the Brit Awards) that the person in line behind Dick was none other than the National Police Chiefs' Council chairwoman, Sara Thornton.

Perhaps it's not such bad news here in Oxford after all.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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XCP said:
So you think one of the other candidates should have got the job? Or someone else entirely?
I think that whomever was chosen should have been free of scandal bearing in mind the politically charged nature of the post.

Surely there's someone talented & untainted who could have been appointed?

audidoody

8,595 posts

255 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Had I been instrumental in the clusterfk that ended up with dumdum bullets being pumped into an innocent and unarmed man's head I doubt I would be sleeping well for the rest of my life, let alone seek the highest position in the organisation that caused the incident.

But that's just me.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

94 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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"I'm afraid it's bad news. You appear to have contracted Cressida Dick."

Such an unfortunate name.

brenflys777

2,678 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Rovinghawk said:
Lessons will be learned?

This 'danger' that all the chaps were running towards- it didn't actually exist. I feel that this is quite relevant.

In precis- she ordered the death of an innocent man on the basis of nothing substantial yet has been promoted to the top job. I'm not proud of / impressed by the system.
Hindsight. A wonderful thing, later of course away from any risk except RSI whilst mashing the keyboard in outrage.

I disagree with your simplistic appraisal of her actions, but if things are going to be simplistically put, sometimes when real people do jobs where they have huge responsibility in a time critical and potentially life threatening situation - st happens.

It's no comfort to his family or the dead man, but I'm glad these Officers do the job they do. I don't think there was a reckless or deliberate effort to kill an innocent man and neither did the inquiry.

kenny.R400

1,211 posts

239 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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MrBarry123 said:
hehe

Dick

hehe
Imagine the scandal if a bloke called Trevor Minge got the top gig at the helm of the Woman's institute laugh

techguyone

3,137 posts

141 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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audidoody said:
Had I been instrumental in the clusterfk that ended up with dumdum bullets being pumped into an innocent and unarmed man's head I doubt I would be sleeping well for the rest of my life, let alone seek the highest position in the organisation that caused the incident.

But that's just me.
It's not just you.