Car buyers should have 'long, hard think' about diesel

[J4CKO]

Puggit said:

AmitG said:

Puggit said:

In a car dealership yesterday, and they flat out told us not to buy a diesel (we weren't anyway!).

Worried as I drive a 6 year old diesel.

Just out of interest - which brand?

Dealer was Mini

Was it genuine concern for residuals or just they have a stock of petrol ones ? maybe diesels need ordering formt he factory and wont make that months figures ?

Ok, a bit cynical, car dealers are always up front about things like that

[Puggit]

J4CKO said:

Puggit said:

AmitG said:

Puggit said:

In a car dealership yesterday, and they flat out told us not to buy a diesel (we weren't anyway!).

Worried as I drive a 6 year old diesel.

Just out of interest - which brand?

Dealer was Mini

Was it genuine concern for residuals or just they have a stock of petrol ones ? maybe diesels need ordering formt he factory and wont make that months figures ?

Ok, a bit cynical, car dealers are always up front about things like that

The dealership was full of diesels for sale! I think it was a genuine statement, especially as we'd already indicated we wanted petrol.

[Lucas Ayde]

Markbarry1977 said:

Nottingham has quite an extensive tram system which is continually being expanded. Yes it's a ball ache when there installing the rails but for something which follows a dedicated route time after time (such as a bus) then they have to be the better solution to buses.

Surely a trolleybus would be an even better idea?

It would still need the overhead cables but wouldn't require rails, saving the rail installation hassle and money. I think some also have the option to include limited onboard batteries or capacitors for more flexibility in routing.

[richie99]

Otispunkmeyer said:

richie99 said:

MarshPhantom said:

richie99 said:

I see from the London Mayor's plan that he plans to include PETROL and diesel cars prior to 2006. So it's nothing to do with pollution and everything to do with getting older cars off the road. Great stuff! Get the poor off the roads. Who'd have thought it from a Labour mayor?

The U-LEZ was good old Boris's idea.

Excellent plan then. Make the poor walk.

As far as I remember every test of my 2002 petrol car has shown NOx emissions of 0.00%.

In and MOT test yes.

In reality its putting out NOx because you can't operate an engine at stoichometric all the time (granted with closed loop control it should be majority of the time) and there is no set of conditions whereby the three way cat is doing all 3 of its jobs at maximum efficiency.

Ah ok thanks. So charging extra for petrol engined cars older than 2006 is really an emissions measure and not a naked attempt to grab money whilst blaming it on dirty diesels.

I'm just worried about used petrol prices going through the roof at a time when I am in the market for one. The satisfaction that used diesel prices should drop through the floor is not sufficient satisfaction to compensate.

[tommunster10]

When all this stuff is banned from the roads and Max Verstapen is Formula E champion for the 10th time, will cars still be cool?

[numtumfutunch]

tommunster10 said:

When all this stuff is banned from the roads and Max Verstapen is Formula E champion for the 10th time, will cars still be cool?

Only normally aspirated ones with more than four cylinders

[tommunster10]

numtumfutunch said:

tommunster10 said:

When all this stuff is banned from the roads and Max Verstapen is Formula E champion for the 10th time, will cars still be cool?

Only normally aspirated ones with more than four cylinders

Won't exist, only electric ones.

I was hoping 'cars' would be flying by the time the old skool cool ones were obsolete....too much Blade Runner when I was a kid.

[numtumfutunch]

tommunster10 said:

Won't exist, only electric ones.

I think youve missed my point