Brexit Celebrations
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cookie118 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Good question, Since the EU have never had their accounts signed off (there is a surprise!), how are `they' going to be able to show who, has paid what in a way that the UK can believe.
All the UK has on record is what it has paid into EU coffers, and what small amounts of the UK`s own money has been received back from Brussels. Where all the rest of the cash the UK has paid into EU coffers has gone is anyone's guess.
https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/All the UK has on record is what it has paid into EU coffers, and what small amounts of the UK`s own money has been received back from Brussels. Where all the rest of the cash the UK has paid into EU coffers has gone is anyone's guess.
So what does all this say about the EU’s accounts? The numbers accurately reflect what’s actually happened, it’s just that some of it shouldn’t have happened in the first place.
So it isn't anyone's guess-the EU knows where the money went.
NJH said:
SpielBoy said:
There are serious and divisive risks to our country if we continue to have political parties voted into power on a minority of the vote.
As opposed to PR systems where you end up with genuinely abhorrent people like Wilders, and the other facist politicians on the continent either threatening power or sharing in it. One of the positive side effects of our system is that it has shut out extremist groups like the BNP, Socialist Worker etc.The fact still remains that Conservative & Labour parties have been elected into power on 30+%ish of the vote (and to make it sound even worse 25%ish of the possible actual electorate) - and the parties of what might be deemed 'acceptable' political views (ie Lib Dems/UKIP/Greens) are under represented in Parliament.
I still have trouble in seeing how any reasonable person can see this is a morally right situation. It is not good for our democracy for this to continue - parliament provides the vent for peoples opinions and views - and for those opinions not be heard is divisive.
Just playing devils advocate. Should be remembered however that the National Front polled close on 20% at their peak in a local election. I have always been a believer in making the 2nd house an elected chamber and would prefer to that be PR based. The parties could pick from lists of people including much of the existing Lords if they wish as the Lords at least are supposed to represent a collection of people honoured for their services to this country. None of the mainstream parties will ever agree to that though or anything which looks like a house with democratic legitimacy as that would threaten their own power.
NJH said:
Just playing devils advocate. Should be remembered however that the National Front polled close on 20% at their peak in a local election. I have always been a believer in making the 2nd house an elected chamber and would prefer to that be PR based. The parties could pick from lists of people including much of the existing Lords if they wish as the Lords at least are supposed to represent a collection of people honoured for their services to this country. None of the mainstream parties will ever agree to that though or anything which looks like a house with democratic legitimacy as that would threaten their own power.
To a certain degree that is what happened with the Liberal Democrat House of Lords Reform Bill back in the coalition days ...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords_Refor...
powerstroke said:
Yes and when the 
s ask for more to sweeten the deal tell them to fk off ,We have contributed more than we should , look at your audited accounts
and sort out our refund first....
It would be a conversation killer when our negotiating team say" we agree we must compensate the EU for leaving now just handover the Audited Accounts so we can agree on a figure".s ask for more to sweeten the deal tell them to fk off ,We have contributed more than we should , look at your audited accounts and sort out our refund first....
johnxjsc1985 said:
powerstroke said:
Yes and when the s ask for more to sweeten the deal tell them to fk off ,We have contributed more than we should , look at your audited accounts
and sort out our refund first....
It would be a conversation killer when our negotiating team say" we agree we must compensate the EU for leaving now just handover the Audited Accounts so we can agree on a figure".s ask for more to sweeten the deal tell them to fk off ,We have contributed more than we should , look at your audited accounts and sort out our refund first....
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/b...
johnxjsc1985 said:
It would be a conversation killer when our negotiating team say" we agree we must compensate the EU for leaving now just handover the Audited Accounts so we can agree on a figure".
It was literally earlier today:https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-b...
Hell I'll even throw in the auditor's report as a Brucie bonus for you.
http://www.eca.europa.eu/Lists/ECADocuments/auditi...
SpielBoy said:
To a certain degree that is what happened with the Liberal Democrat House of Lords Reform Bill back in the coalition days ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords_Refor...
Agreed. The whole history around that bill should give all of us pause for thought when it comes to trusting politicians.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords_Refor...
cookie118 said:
It was literally earlier today:
https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-b...
Hell I'll even throw in the auditor's report as a Brucie bonus for you.
http://www.eca.europa.eu/Lists/ECADocuments/auditi...
Think I might just be asking to do our own Audit of any information supplied by the EU.https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-b...
Hell I'll even throw in the auditor's report as a Brucie bonus for you.
http://www.eca.europa.eu/Lists/ECADocuments/auditi...
BlackLabel said:
Will we get a bank holiday?
The date the UK will leave the EU is set to be enshrined in law as Theresa May warns MPs not to try to “block” Brexit. The exit day – 11pm GMT on March 29, 2019 – will be included on the EU withdrawal bill going through parliament.
Why should employers pay you for doing nothing?The date the UK will leave the EU is set to be enshrined in law as Theresa May warns MPs not to try to “block” Brexit. The exit day – 11pm GMT on March 29, 2019 – will be included on the EU withdrawal bill going through parliament.
SKP555 said:
So much to celebrate and celebration season is fast approaching.
Anyone have any plans either for this year or on going? And when?
June 23rd to celebrate the referendum?
The day Article 50 notice is given?
The day we finally complete negotiations?
Nigel Farage's birthday?
All of the above?
All of the aboveAnyone have any plans either for this year or on going? And when?
June 23rd to celebrate the referendum?
The day Article 50 notice is given?
The day we finally complete negotiations?
Nigel Farage's birthday?
All of the above?
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