London should become a city state if there's a hard Brexit

London should become a city state if there's a hard Brexit

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mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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SidewaysSi said:
mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
I can't see it happening though. Unfortunately.
Bit of a romanitic, eh?
About what?
That which you consider to be unfortunate.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
I can't see it happening though. Unfortunately.
Bit of a romanitic, eh?
About what?
That which you consider to be unfortunate.
Of course it is unfortunate. For most people living in the UK. I work in London and love the place. Very different to the rest of the UK.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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I'm claiming independence for High Wycombe.

Westminster has no idea what is happening in the city (ok town) so self determination is the answer. We have our own international airport and can revive our main industry (making chairs) to grow GDP per capita.

gruffalo

7,521 posts

226 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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CaptainSlow said:
I'm claiming independence for High Wycombe.

Westminster has no idea what is happening in the city (ok town) so self determination is the answer. We have our own international airport and can revive our main industry (making chairs) to grow GDP per capita.
Oi, don't forget Marlow!

We want our freedom as well you know!


mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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gruffalo said:
CaptainSlow said:
I'm claiming independence for High Wycombe.

Westminster has no idea what is happening in the city (ok town) so self determination is the answer. We have our own international airport and can revive our main industry (making chairs) to grow GDP per capita.
Oi, don't forget Marlow!

We want our freedom as well you know!
We ought to give Scunthorpe independence...

Whether they want it or not.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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SidewaysSi said:
mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
I can't see it happening though. Unfortunately.
Bit of a romanitic, eh?
About what?
That which you consider to be unfortunate.
Of course it is unfortunate. For most people living in the UK. I work in London and love the place. Very different to the rest of the UK.
I'm 3 miles from my city centre and 2 miles from the Peak District and some great roads. You can keep your sthole, thank you very much...smile

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Hosenbugler said:
danllama said:
Where did I say I dislike my hometown 'so much"?

I simply said its unfortunate that I live here, as I'm much happier in rural and coastal areas, which has only transpired as I've got older. That doesn't mean I dislike London. Being in London is like being in a relationship. There are good and bad days.

I'd like to leave London though, if someone could help me find a job on the South/Cornish coast i'd be eternally grateful.
On a serious point, anywhere near the coast in the south west is a life of two halves. The life in Winter and the life in Summer. The former (IMHO) is the better, except of course for the weather. The Summer has the better weather of course, as half the world knows , they know because half that world desends upon the place , with the problems that brings, in short , it becomes all too often, a nightmare. I did look very hard at the edges of Truro (The only City I know of I could cheerfully live in/close too. )as with a half decent boat, you can get to the coast without going near the roads.

I spent part of my working life tied (because of work) to the city i was born in (Peterborough), as soon as my situation chamged I was out the dump, tout sweet. My honest view, is that being near a reasonable sized Town can be beneficial , being actually in it, not so. Aside Truro, as said, I don't know of a city I'd live in, even if I was paid to , urban st tips, London in a league of its own awfulness, in some ways I'm angry with myself for not getting out of P'boro earlier, but you cannot always get things right.

Sometimes as well, what appears to be a great place to live , turns out not to be the case. I lived in Stamford for a few years, beautiful town, but the traffic can be all too often a right nightmare and , there is/was a lot of trouble in the town centre at nights. I've only lived in 2 places I'd freely live in again , where I am now and the other fenland village I lived in prior to here. Both times on the edge of a village several miles outside the nearest town. Life easy, quiet, no trouble, virtually crime free. Cheap taxi ride if your wanting hustle and bustle, can't beat it.
Thanks for the input, it's food for thought!

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
I can't see it happening though. Unfortunately.
Bit of a romanitic, eh?
About what?
That which you consider to be unfortunate.
Of course it is unfortunate. For most people living in the UK. I work in London and love the place. Very different to the rest of the UK.
I'm 3 miles from my city centre and 2 miles from the Peak District and some great roads. You can keep your sthole, thank you very much...smile
More than happy to thanks and you can keep your sthole too. I don't think your city centre is would really be much to crow about. And I can easily make it out to some great roads too if you know where to look.

I can be in Wales in a couple of hours too if I fancy a blast for a half day.

B'stard Child

28,404 posts

246 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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mybrainhurts said:
gruffalo said:
CaptainSlow said:
I'm claiming independence for High Wycombe.

Westminster has no idea what is happening in the city (ok town) so self determination is the answer. We have our own international airport and can revive our main industry (making chairs) to grow GDP per capita.
Oi, don't forget Marlow!

We want our freedom as well you know!
We ought to give Scunthorpe independence...

Whether they want it or not.
Ahhhh had to quote to see how you did that - very clever but aren't you effectively circumventing the swearword filter wink

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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B'stard Child said:
mybrainhurts said:
gruffalo said:
CaptainSlow said:
I'm claiming independence for High Wycombe.

Westminster has no idea what is happening in the city (ok town) so self determination is the answer. We have our own international airport and can revive our main industry (making chairs) to grow GDP per capita.
Oi, don't forget Marlow!

We want our freedom as well you know!
We ought to give Scunthorpe independence...

Whether they want it or not.
Ahhhh had to quote to see how you did that - very clever but aren't you effectively circumventing the swearword filter wink
No, unless you want offend the good people of Scunthorpe, that is...tongue out

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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SidewaysSi said:
mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
I can't see it happening though. Unfortunately.
Bit of a romanitic, eh?
About what?
That which you consider to be unfortunate.
Of course it is unfortunate. For most people living in the UK. I work in London and love the place. Very different to the rest of the UK.
I'm 3 miles from my city centre and 2 miles from the Peak District and some great roads. You can keep your sthole, thank you very much...smile
More than happy to thanks and you can keep your sthole too. I don't think your city centre is would really be much to crow about. And I can easily make it out to some great roads too if you know where to look.

I can be in Wales in a couple of hours too if I fancy a blast for a half day.
Couple of hours? I can do it in 3 minutes...any time the whim takes me...tongue out

And one of your neighbours just came up here, sold a small flat in Londinium and bought 5 beds with 22 acres and still had change for a car...tongue outtongue out

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
mybrainhurts said:
SidewaysSi said:
I can't see it happening though. Unfortunately.
Bit of a romanitic, eh?
About what?
That which you consider to be unfortunate.
Of course it is unfortunate. For most people living in the UK. I work in London and love the place. Very different to the rest of the UK.
I'm 3 miles from my city centre and 2 miles from the Peak District and some great roads. You can keep your sthole, thank you very much...smile
More than happy to thanks and you can keep your sthole too. I don't think your city centre is would really be much to crow about. And I can easily make it out to some great roads too if you know where to look.

I can be in Wales in a couple of hours too if I fancy a blast for a half day.
Couple of hours? I can do it in 3 minutes...any time the whim takes me...tongue out

And one of your neighbours just came up here, sold a small flat in Londinium and bought 5 beds with 22 acres and still had change for a car...tongue outtongue out
I wouldn't give up London for having to drive a couple of hours for a thrash into Wales. It's hardly a big deal IMO.

There is a lot of anti-London sentiment on here sometimes and having lived in different places (have extended family in Lancashire), I can see why.

But what London gives many people is opportunity. Plenty of big businesses and the ability to do well for yourself if you get into the right firm. Yes, it is hard work and occasionally stressful but get into the right role and it will be challenging and rewarding. I have worked with some extremely talented people which has benefitted my career immensely. Personally I have a lot to thank London for and quite frankly I wouldn't be doing what I do if I was anywhere else.

And yes I know plenty in London really struggle due to house prices etc but those "small flats" often earn more than their owners. As for your new neighbour, they used "London money" to get that house - I would hazard a guess that many people wouldn't be able to do that from nothing living there.

It's a different mindset in some parts of the UK and I can see why many don't get or don't like London (including those in my own family!) but for me he benefits have far outweighed the costs.


Edited by SidewaysSi on Wednesday 22 March 07:11

AC43

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11,487 posts

208 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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nyxster said:
i think what you'd actually get would be a city state like dubai
Bugger. I preferred the Passport to Pimlico version. More Austin Healy, less diesel Evoque convertible.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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SidewaysSi said:
There is a lot of anti-London sentiment on here sometimes and having lived in different places (have extended family in Lancashire), I can see why.
There is a lot of anti London sentiment, but the problem is, all everyone in the UK is hearing is anti Brexit coming from places like the BBC and most of it from London.

London 'leave' voters accounted for 6.5% of the total amount of people who voted, yet you would think with the amount of coverage they get and the way they go on and on that they were 60% of the vote.

We have had 9 months of it now and it is getting seriously tiresome.

I love London, but the way many from London are going on it is seriously starting to make me look at those living there in a very different light.

Murph7355

37,715 posts

256 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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It's like Scotland - what you're hearing is a shout minority. We have to try and remember that.

The irony is that those people are currently out-Faraging Farage smile

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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gizlaroc said:
There is a lot of anti London sentiment, but the problem is, all everyone in the UK is hearing is anti Brexit coming from places like the BBC and most of it from London.

London 'leave' voters accounted for 6.5% of the total amount of people who voted, yet you would think with the amount of coverage they get and the way they go on and on that they were 60% of the vote.

We have had 9 months of it now and it is getting seriously tiresome.

I love London, but the way many from London are going on it is seriously starting to make me look at those living there in a very different light.
Spare a thought for us in London who voted leave. We have to accept that our views are hugely unpopular with the idiotic remain army. Its made dating a nightmare. They can't handle it when you destroy the EU with logic and facts.

AC43

Original Poster:

11,487 posts

208 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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danllama said:
Spare a thought for us in London who voted leave. Its made dating a nightmare.
Good luck with that down here.

I have looked hard in the 8 months since the vote (not in a dating sense) and have have found only a handful of Brexiteers (who argued their case well) and a similar number of neutrals (again with considered positions)

One my neighbours (who hadn't really thought the whole thing through) briefly admitted to having voted leave before she decided it was easier all round if she just avoided the topic entirely.

I imagine a lot of your potential dates will see you as the equivalent of someone who drowns puppies in sacks. Or at least some sort of Nigel Farage/Nick Griffin hybrid. Which is still not good. The very best you can hope for is that they see you as some sort of Boris Johnson figure but as most of London wanted to lynch him in the week after the vote I'd suggest you always know where the exit is just in case.

fido

16,797 posts

255 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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AC43 said:
One my neighbours (who hadn't really thought the whole thing through) briefly admitted to having voted leave before she decided it was easier all round if she just avoided the topic entirely.
Like Brexit itself, I think you need to take an all-or-nothing approach.

Last year I casually told everyone I was distributing Leave.EU leaflets during the weekend (as you do) and made a couple of very obvious Facebook posts. Lost about 10% of my social network whilst others just avoided the topic when I met them in person. Problem solved. Only 2 people were actually hostile - 1 called me a 'tw@t' but since forget about it and we have spoken since, and 1 Romanian girl told me 'I had voted to get rid of her' (but she is a bit weird anyway and I have a lot of Polish friends to counter her b0llocks!).

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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AC43 said:
Good luck with that down here.

I have looked hard in the 8 months since the vote (not in a dating sense) and have have found only a handful of Brexiteers (who argued their case well) and a similar number of neutrals (again with considered positions)

One my neighbours (who hadn't really thought the whole thing through) briefly admitted to having voted leave before she decided it was easier all round if she just avoided the topic entirely.

I imagine a lot of your potential dates will see you as the equivalent of someone who drowns puppies in sacks. Or at least some sort of Nigel Farage/Nick Griffin hybrid. Which is still not good. The very best you can hope for is that they see you as some sort of Boris Johnson figure but as most of London wanted to lynch him in the week after the vote I'd suggest you always know where the exit is just in case.
I stand my ground to be honest. As I say, you give them facts and logic and they can't handle it, they just sit there in vague disapproval, without really understanding why. Their loss.

It's odd though, all of my social circle and family voted out, AFAIK.

WCZ

10,526 posts

194 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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danllama said:
We have to accept that our views are hugely unpopular with the idiotic remain army. Its made dating a nightmare. They can't handle it when you destroy the EU with logic and facts.
very cringe