London should become a city state if there's a hard Brexit
Discussion
ChemicalChaos said:
WCZ said:
danllama said:
We have to accept that our views are hugely unpopular with the idiotic remain army. Its made dating a nightmare. They can't handle it when you destroy the EU with logic and facts.
very cringe 
s need not apply" or similarlimpsfield said:
mybrainhurts said:
How very progressive of you. Thought you Aussies had a sense of humour. Wrong again...
Maybe that's the problem. He does have a sense of humour. It was like humour, just not funny?However, at the serious end, an independent London could easily be taken over by a determined minority so it's no good getting all sanctimonious when someone asks how Londoners would manage under Sharia law.
With shouty progressives around here, I don't expect this to get an airing, of course, 'cos it's racist, innit?
mybrainhurts said:
limpsfield said:
mybrainhurts said:
How very progressive of you. Thought you Aussies had a sense of humour. Wrong again...
Maybe that's the problem. He does have a sense of humour. It was like humour, just not funny?However, at the serious end, an independent London could easily be taken over by a determined minority so it's no good getting all sanctimonious when someone asks how Londoners would manage under Sharia law.
With shouty progressives around here, I don't expect this to get an airing, of course, 'cos it's racist, innit?
SidewaysSi said:
mybrainhurts said:
limpsfield said:
mybrainhurts said:
How very progressive of you. Thought you Aussies had a sense of humour. Wrong again...
Maybe that's the problem. He does have a sense of humour. It was like humour, just not funny?However, at the serious end, an independent London could easily be taken over by a determined minority so it's no good getting all sanctimonious when someone asks how Londoners would manage under Sharia law.
With shouty progressives around here, I don't expect this to get an airing, of course, 'cos it's racist, innit?
The scenario is a wealthy, independent state of London with a small population. Deliberately increasing one ethnic group to become a majority shouldn't be too difficult. Now throw in a group of determined radicals and what do you have?
Daft scenario it might be, but the notion of an independent state of London is just as daft and, as Londoners are discussing it, this is something they need to mull over.
limpsfield said:
ChemicalChaos said:
WCZ said:
danllama said:
We have to accept that our views are hugely unpopular with the idiotic remain army. Its made dating a nightmare. They can't handle it when you destroy the EU with logic and facts.
very cringe s need not apply" or similar
danllama said:
limpsfield said:
ChemicalChaos said:
WCZ said:
danllama said:
We have to accept that our views are hugely unpopular with the idiotic remain army. Its made dating a nightmare. They can't handle it when you destroy the EU with logic and facts.
very cringe s need not apply" or similarLasseV said:
Why not? There are several succesful micro-states in Europe. Like San Marino in middle of Italy etc. I don't know, but it seems that your island is not that stable anymore after that brexit vote.
Stable?It's not a bloody paddle board - if a few people exit Scotland and move to Cornwall Ben Nevis doesn't become 30M higher than it was
CaptainSlow said:
I'm claiming independence for High Wycombe.
Westminster has no idea what is happening in the city (ok town) so self determination is the answer. We have our own international airport and can revive our main industry (making chairs) to grow GDP per capita.
Having grown up in Wycombe I'm fairly certain that most of Britain would be happy to divorce it from the rest of the union. Westminster has no idea what is happening in the city (ok town) so self determination is the answer. We have our own international airport and can revive our main industry (making chairs) to grow GDP per capita.
LasseV said:
Why not? There are several succesful micro-states in Europe. Like San Marino in middle of Italy etc. I don't know, but it seems that your island is not that stable anymore after that brexit vote.
You're hearing a very vocal minority in both the Scottish and Brexit cases. Especially so in the Scottish one. I wouldn't say we're any less "stable" - people are yet to take to the streets and burn the place down. "Divided", yes. But on such big issues that's inevitable. We've been there before. We'll get through it. (As an aside, I think this division is feeling significantly worse at present as we left it so long to have a wider debate on our membership of the EU. The politicians should have committed to a debate and vote at each major treaty change/fundammental shift (e.g. ditching the currency) IMO. It would/should have been much easier to define the pros and cons if done in smaller steps).
None of the current "successful micro states" were ever the recognised capitals of the nations they are geographically part of as far as I'm aware. The historical contexts of all of them are therefore quite different. Scotland has history as a separate nation and so the case there is different - though equally weak (perhaps more so!).
Murph7355 said:
LasseV said:
Why not? There are several succesful micro-states in Europe. Like San Marino in middle of Italy etc. I don't know, but it seems that your island is not that stable anymore after that brexit vote.
You're hearing a very vocal minority in both the Scottish and Brexit cases. Especially so in the Scottish one. I wouldn't say we're any less "stable" - people are yet to take to the streets and burn the place down. "Divided", yes. But on such big issues that's inevitable. We've been there before. We'll get through it. (As an aside, I think this division is feeling significantly worse at present as we left it so long to have a wider debate on our membership of the EU. The politicians should have committed to a debate and vote at each major treaty change/fundammental shift (e.g. ditching the currency) IMO. It would/should have been much easier to define the pros and cons if done in smaller steps).
None of the current "successful micro states" were ever the recognised capitals of the nations they are geographically part of as far as I'm aware. The historical contexts of all of them are therefore quite different. Scotland has history as a separate nation and so the case there is different - though equally weak (perhaps more so!).
AC43 said:
Murph7355 said:
LasseV said:
Why not? There are several succesful micro-states in Europe. Like San Marino in middle of Italy etc. I don't know, but it seems that your island is not that stable anymore after that brexit vote.
You're hearing a very vocal minority in both the Scottish and Brexit cases. Especially so in the Scottish one. I wouldn't say we're any less "stable" - people are yet to take to the streets and burn the place down. "Divided", yes. But on such big issues that's inevitable. We've been there before. We'll get through it. (As an aside, I think this division is feeling significantly worse at present as we left it so long to have a wider debate on our membership of the EU. The politicians should have committed to a debate and vote at each major treaty change/fundammental shift (e.g. ditching the currency) IMO. It would/should have been much easier to define the pros and cons if done in smaller steps).
None of the current "successful micro states" were ever the recognised capitals of the nations they are geographically part of as far as I'm aware. The historical contexts of all of them are therefore quite different. Scotland has history as a separate nation and so the case there is different - though equally weak (perhaps more so!).
I don't want to have to go thro border control to visit - what happens if I meet a girl there and want to marry her........ Then there are the tarrifs.....
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