US to ban electronic devices from flights

[RBH58]

This whole thing is insane.

[jmorgan]

Oh noes.... what will people do......

Hang on, back before portable ithings, we used to use books

[kev1974]

Probably orchestrated by Dell and HP, looking forward to booming sales of replacement laptops to people who've had theirs nicked from their hold baggage

[Puggit]

jmorgan said:

Oh noes.... what will people do......

Hang on, back before portable ithings, we used to use books

I'm afraid that doesn't answer the problem of how do you transport your laptop to the USA? Mine sure as hell isn't going in my checked in luggage!

We have a long weekend in NY coming up in June. Booked it all on points (including the hotel) - so it's flexible. We will cancel if this ban covers UK airports.

[anonymous-user]

jmorgan said:

Oh noes.... what will people do......

Hang on, back before portable ithings, we used to use books

I think Trump has already banned books. The real facts are all on his Twitter now.

[jmorgan]

Puggit said:

jmorgan said:

Oh noes.... what will people do......

Hang on, back before portable ithings, we used to use books

I'm afraid that doesn't answer the problem of how do you transport your laptop to the USA? Mine sure as hell isn't going in my checked in luggage!

We have a long weekend in NY coming up in June. Booked it all on points (including the hotel) - so it's flexible. We will cancel if this ban covers UK airports.

Print your laptop contents.......


(not taking this seriously enough am I......)

I expect businesses can just take hard drives and get a basic company lap top the other end but yeah, I would be with you. Nothing like that I would ever check.

And then I would not be happy with a hold full of lithium batteries.

[pushthebutton]

RBH58 said:

This whole thing is insane.

It's really not.

You're arguing from a position where you don't appear to possess any of the facts, but you still seem willing to engage. I'd be an bit embarrassed to do that so vocally, but each to their own.

I've seen the security briefing and I understand the specific threat. As always, we were asked not to share the details on an open forum. I don't mind if you choose not to believe me, but I can't help but suspect you may be ignorant of this subject.

Have you attended the specific briefing containing details of the laptop ban? If so, how did you draw conclusions that are so different to the ones that myself and many others have drawn after attending?

[liner33]

My wife flies to and from the US at least once a month and uses the time on the plane to do work, quality time as far as she is concerned allowing disruption free opportunities to catch up on presentations etc

Going to be a real pain and after having one laptop stolen (From her briefcase in the BA lounge) this year putting it in the hold wont be an option , guess she will have to have one laptop in each office from now on.

Better than getting blown up of course , I expect that there will have been specific intelligence for them to do this but it will have an impact on many people who work in both the US and Europe will probably fundamentally change things

[Mansells Tash]

liner33 said:

Better than getting blown up of course , I expect that there will have been specific intelligence for them to do this but it will have an impact on many people who work in both the US and Europe will probably fundamentally change things

I suspect it is more to do with something along these lines rather than actually blowing a plane up...

https://www.wired.com/2015/05/feds-say-banned-rese...

Its a properly scary thought if people have the ability to access the various systems of a plane and infect/control/shut down things remotely.

[poo at Paul's]

liner33 said:

My wife flies to and from the US at least once a month and uses the time on the plane to do work, quality time as far as she is concerned allowing disruption free opportunities to catch up on presentations etc

Going to be a real pain and after having one laptop stolen (From her briefcase in the BA lounge) this year putting it in the hold wont be an option , guess she will have to have one laptop in each office from now on.

Better than getting blown up of course , I expect that there will have been specific intelligence for them to do this but it will have an impact on many people who work in both the US and Europe will probably fundamentally change things

In 2004 I had a laptop nicked from my bag at BA lounge, and only noticed as I unpacked my bag in front of 60 people I was doing a days presenting to in Boston the next morning! 9I watched movies on the plane). Luckily, my colleague had printed the presentation off in hard copy, so we hastily photocopied it and winged it a bit, even used a flip chart! It went ok, surprisingly. But even more surprising, was they caught the guy that nicked the laptop, and recovered it for me. They had actually seen it on CCTV and recovered it before I even knew it was missing! Apparetnly just wondering how busy a guy i was since it took near 24 hours for me to notice! lol

[liner33]

Mansells Tash said:

I suspect it is more to do with something along these lines rather than actually blowing a plane up...

https://www.wired.com/2015/05/feds-say-banned-rese...

Its a properly scary thought if people have the ability to access the various systems of a plane and infect/control/shut down things remotely.

I read elsewhere it was because the x-ray machines cant tell the difference between a battery and plastic explosive, this is mentioned in the article posted above

[Jonesy23]

Blah blah security briefings blah.

The threat (as ever) is not particularly sophisticated and is one of a wide range that exists.

I still think that the response is inappropriate given the possible options for dealing with it.

[YankeePorker]

liner33 said:

I read elsewhere it was because the x-ray machines cant tell the difference between a battery and plastic explosive, this is mentioned in the article posted above

Not really logical though, they'd just be putting the bomb in the hold then.

[Shakermaker]

liner33 said:

My wife flies to and from the US at least once a month and uses the time on the plane to do work, quality time as far as she is concerned allowing disruption free opportunities to catch up on presentations etc

Going to be a real pain and after having one laptop stolen (From her briefcase in the BA lounge) this year putting it in the hold wont be an option , guess she will have to have one laptop in each office from now on.

Better than getting blown up of course , I expect that there will have been specific intelligence for them to do this but it will have an impact on many people who work in both the US and Europe will probably fundamentally change things

So she had a laptop stolen from a place where, had she put it in the hold, it would not have been stolen from?

[liner33]

Shakermaker said:

So she had a laptop stolen from a place where, had she put it in the hold, it would not have been stolen from?

Yeah because stuff never gets stolen from the hold

[Shakermaker]

liner33 said:

Shakermaker said:

So she had a laptop stolen from a place where, had she put it in the hold, it would not have been stolen from?

Yeah because stuff never gets stolen from the hold

I know that. But it was a poor effort to say "its bad to put things in the hold because I once had something stolen from my hand luggage"

[liner33]

Shakermaker said:

I know that. But it was a poor effort to say "its bad to put things in the hold because I once had something stolen from my hand luggage"

Having a laptop stolen once every couple of years is a hassle having one stolen every time you fly would become tiresome

[pushthebutton]

Jonesy23 said:

Blah blah security briefings blah.

The threat (as ever) is not particularly sophisticated and is one of a wide range that exists.

I still think that the response is inappropriate given the possible options for dealing with it.

What's 'it'?

Will current carry-on baggage screening methods detect 'it'?

[Shakermaker]

liner33 said:

Shakermaker said:

I know that. But it was a poor effort to say "its bad to put things in the hold because I once had something stolen from my hand luggage"

Having a laptop stolen once every couple of years is a hassle having one stolen every time you fly would become tiresome

Do you believe that you would lose one every time you fly though?

I've had staff lose their jobs, immediately, for stealing a single can of Coke from an aircraft cabin that was otherwise going to be thrown away. Granted that is in the UK and not one of these countries where the cost of a laptop is worth more than a month's wages

[Starfighter]

I bet they do nothing on domestic flights. After all anyone internal just loves the USA and wouldn't harm anyone. Oh....
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk...