US to ban electronic devices from flights

[Shakermaker]

anonymous said:

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Did you have a TSA approved combi lock? They have master keys for all of those. Or they just force them open

[smack]

anonymous said:

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Your suitcase was opened by the TSA (Transportation Security Administration, aka Homeland Security), and although it had a combination on it, it can be opened up with one of 7 keys TSA officers have. If you have a lock they can't open with these keys, they will open the case with force (and you have no recourse that they damaged you lock/case as US law states you must allow TSA to access your luggage)

The only exception of above is baggage that contains firearms (which you have declared to the airline at check in), which has to be locked, and can't be opened without the owner present.

[Puggit]

Shakermaker said:

Did you have a TSA approved combi lock? They have master keys for all of those.

Along with all the criminal employees working with the baggage.

[GCH]

Not my picture, but this was taken this morning at CVG (Cincinnati).



Looks like confirmation that this madness is going to be happening in some form at some point.

[YankeePorker]

Well this is going to be good for the sale of phablets! If I can't take my iPad onboard to watch films then I guess the answer is a phone with a bigger screen. What a pain in the derrière!

[Shakermaker]

YankeePorker said:

Well this is going to be good for the sale of phablets! If I can't take my iPad onboard to watch films then I guess the answer is a phone with a bigger screen. What a pain in the derrière!

Or fly with an airline that has in flight entertainment?

[kev1974]

All other "personal electronic devices", so stuff like cameras as well?

People will be going nuts, for sure I can entertain myself for the length of a flight with the in-seat entertainment and/or books etc, but it's the risk of theft or damage to my "personal electronic devices" that is the reason I want them in the cabin with me.

[confused_buyer]

A pain, but not the end of the world. I'm sure the same people who say they'll never fly are the same ones who said they'd never fly if the US introduced fingerprinting, liquids were banned, they have to take off their shoes, Ryanair removed seat reclines or whatever.

Somehow the world goes on.

The security aspect is obviously a concern although maybe it will prompt a beefing up of theft prevention.

One upside is that strolling through an airport with simply a book and passport in hand in a relaxed manner having checked pretty much everything in seems to be a lost pleasure of the modern world. Now it is just a bundled mayhem of trolly cases and baggage.

If it wasn't for the charges / risk of lost lugagge / risk of never seeing it again for various reasons I'd check pretty much everything in on every flight.

[Puggit]

Seems the latest ban threats have been caused by the fact that ISIS obtained airport scanners at Mosul when they overran the airport. This has recently been discovered during the battle to retake the city:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-bomb-making-resea...

[King Herald]

confused_buyer said:

One upside is that strolling through an airport with simply a book and passport in hand in a relaxed manner having checked pretty much everything in seems to be a lost pleasure of the modern world. Now it is just a bundled mayhem of trolly cases and baggage.

If it wasn't for the charges / risk of lost lugagge / risk of never seeing it again for various reasons I'd check pretty much everything in on every flight.

You haven't flown domestic in the USA recently, have you? Nobody checks anything in. They each take two huge rollalongs on the plane, with god only knows what inside. Then the staff come round, asking if anybody with a smaller bag can take it down and jam it between their feet, because there is not enough room for all the huge bags of those selfish bds who the staff themselves let walk right onto the plane with! Cretins!

Of course, if you attempt to point it their, er, 'erroneous' performance, you'll probably be beaten and arrested for a myriad of reasons.

Maybe if they have to check their laptop in they'll bury it inside their huge clothes bags and get some of the baggage out of the cabin!

[confused_buyer]

King Herald said:

You haven't flown domestic in the USA recently, have you? Nobody checks anything in. They each take two huge rollalongs on the plane, with god only knows what inside. Then the staff come round, asking if anybody with a smaller bag can take it down and jam it between their feet, because there is not enough room for all the huge bags of those selfish bds who the staff themselves let walk right onto the plane with! Cretins!

Thankfully, I haven't, no. I used to quite a lot and it was flippin' awful then so it sounds like it has worse. However, as (luck) would have it, I have the pleasure of a couple of US domestic flights next week......

[BlackLabel]

Puggit said:

Seems the latest ban threats have been caused by the fact that ISIS obtained airport scanners at Mosul when they overran the airport. This has recently been discovered during the battle to retake the city:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-bomb-making-resea...

Interesting - I assume this is what Trump 'leaked' to the Russians.

[RBH58]

I still want to know how filling the hold with hundreds of lithium batteries make flights safer. Nobody has explained that logic satisfactorily yet.

[Puggit]

Yes they have. 2 reasons. Firstly a bomb in the hold can't be detonated manually. So it needs a timer or remote device. Secondly a bomb can't be manually stitched together from smaller (less discoverable) parts.

[RBH58]

Puggit said:

Yes they have. 2 reasons. Firstly a bomb in the hold can't be detonated manually. So it needs a timer or remote device. Secondly a bomb can't be manually stitched together from smaller (less discoverable) parts.

Which is baloney. Why can't a bomb in the hold be activated on a pressure switch or a timer? Why does a bomb need to be "stitched together" if it can be disguised to look like something else?

[King Herald]

RBH58 said:

Puggit said:

Yes they have. 2 reasons. Firstly a bomb in the hold can't be detonated manually. So it needs a timer or remote device. Secondly a bomb can't be manually stitched together from smaller (less discoverable) parts.

Which is baloney. Why can't a bomb in the hold be activated on a pressure switch or a timer? Why does a bomb need to be "stitched together" if it can be disguised to look like something else?

FFS, this is a compete repeat of two pages of argument at the start of the thread. Yes it can, no it can't, yes it can, no it can't.....

[RBH58]

Agree. Most countries seem to be of the opinion that having a hold full of unsupervised lithium batteries is a bigger risk and I agree with them. But we'll probably need to have a faulty PC bring down an aircraft before common sense will prevail.

[BlackLabel]

Some background on why the laptop ban came into force.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/secret-israeli-...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/u...

[RBH58]

BlackLabel said:

Some background on why the laptop ban came into force.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/secret-israeli-...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/u...

So, put them in the hold or have them in the cabin. What’s the difference? Surely it’s better to have someone eyeball them?