how many of you are breaking the law without even realising?

how many of you are breaking the law without even realising?

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djneils98

Original Poster:

301 posts

150 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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https://twitter.com/SurreyRoadCops/status/84419456...

and

https://twitter.com/SurreyRoadCops/status/84420028...


see people doing this all the time. didn't realise it was an offence. do others?

Slow

6,973 posts

137 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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4cm is very small, I would assume that means all windscreen mounted satnavs are illegal pretty much.

geeks

9,155 posts

139 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Yes and I am glad someone has finally fking pointed it out, useless tts on the road with navs/phones/tablets in the middle of their fking eyeline, wkers need shooting! If only they would do something about it and perform actions against offenders..

PositronicRay

26,997 posts

183 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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If you're sticking something right in front of your noggin (zone a) you deserve prosection.

donkmeister

8,121 posts

100 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Makes a lot of police cars illegal, from what I've seen...

ETA i never stick anything to my windscreen, I'm not affected by this but thinking the police need to get themselves sorted too if they intend to crack down.

Cold

15,233 posts

90 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Good to see Surrey police prioritising the important things.

sandman77

2,398 posts

138 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Cold said:
Good to see Surrey police prioritising the important things.
Posting 2 tweets is hardly prioritising. Any excuse to bash the police though eh?

vikingaero

10,280 posts

169 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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We've all seen the Speshal people who mount their satnavs or phone directly in front of their eyeline.

parabolica

6,706 posts

184 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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This issue was pointed out on the SAC I did last week; there were a few taxi/uber drivers on the course (unsurprisingly) and they were bumping their gums about it when the instructor mentioned the law. General consensus was that any non-OEM device that is attached to your car is potentially illegal to use once the engine is running, however it normally isn't picked up on by police unless it has seriously effected your driving (i.e. crashed caused by driver fiddling with it at the time of accident, or view was obstructed by the object).

To be honest I see so many people with devices mounted either right in front of them or just off to the left it makes me wish there would be a crack down; some seriously dodgy device placement going on.

loose cannon

6,029 posts

241 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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hopefully the police and motoring orgs will be pushing for the limiting or complete removal of touch screen technology in vehicles , Especially those that control vehicle functions like heater controls,

Slow

6,973 posts

137 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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loose cannon said:
hopefully the police and motoring orgs will be pushing for the limiting or complete removal of touch screen technology in vehicles , Especially those that control vehicle functions like heater controls,
Disagree. Most people look at there heater controls when changing them anyway so taking their eyes of the road is no different to now.

Ever used a iPhone for a wee while? You type on that without actually having to look at the letters your pressing despite the fact you cant feel them like a keyboard.

loose cannon

6,029 posts

241 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Well as I'm typing on here now on my I phone I'm looking at it I can't type on my phone without looking at what I'm touching
you must be well clever bless you, i bet you can eat your apple, play poker, work and roam bookface all at the same time beer I feel my heater controls in my car no need to look were they are tbh

V10 SPM

564 posts

251 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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My instrument binnacle protrudes into the swept area of the windscreen. Next people will be saying this is illegal!

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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This is never a problem for me as my phone is stuck to my hand and not the windscreen whilst driving.

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Can it be enforced with cameras? If not, danger of being done seems minimal.

Dogwatch

6,224 posts

222 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Looking at the Surrey Police photo, yes putting an iPad in your field of view isn't very clever but neither is taking photos of said infringement at the side of the M25 where the hard shoulder has all but disappeared.
If I was in that vehicle I'd be wetting myself.

zarjaz1991

3,479 posts

123 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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It's understandable that the police want to clamp down on this sort of thing.

After all, it's not as if we have a problem with crime at the moment or anything.

zarjaz1991

3,479 posts

123 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Slow said:
Disagree. Most people look at there heater controls when changing them anyway so taking their eyes of the road is no different to now.

Ever used a iPhone for a wee while? You type on that without actually having to look at the letters your pressing despite the fact you cant feel them like a keyboard.
loose cannon said:
Well as I'm typing on here now on my I phone I'm looking at it I can't type on my phone without looking at what I'm touching
you must be well clever bless you, i bet you can eat your apple, play poker, work and roam bookface all at the same time beer I feel my heater controls in my car no need to look were they are tbh
I think this may be a 'young person' thing...maybe....
I too can type away merrily on my iPhone or iPad without really looking at the keys....older people I know have to keep looking down.

williamp

19,243 posts

273 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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V10 SPM said:
My instrument binnacle protrudes into the swept area of the windscreen. Next people will be saying this is illegal!
Tell me about it. Its one of two reasons why I dont drive a Diablo...



I forget what the mian reason is...

Paul_M3

2,357 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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geeks said:
Yes and I am glad someone has finally fking pointed it out, useless tts on the road with navs/phones/tablets in the middle of their fking eyeline, wkers need shooting! If only they would do something about it and perform actions against offenders..
PositronicRay said:
If you're sticking something right in front of your noggin (zone a) you deserve prosection.
The point isn't about idiots who place things right in front of their face. That's obviously moronic.

The point is that you could put your Sat Nav as far out of the way in the bottom right hand corner of your screen as is possible, and it would still be illegal.

But having something protrude 4cm into the swept area doesn't necessarily mean it's blocking your vision in any way.

However I'd hope you'd only get (quite rightly) pulled if you were genuinely blocking your vision with poor placement.