Report a polluter?

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supermono

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7,368 posts

247 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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I'm the least "green" person you'll meet. With that out of the way, as a London worker and cyclist and someone who drives into Westminster most days I'm sick of seeing these clapped out old stters belching out yards of soot whenever they pull away. Usually black cabs which I'm assuming have to go through some sort of enhanced MOT type thing, clearly finding a way around it.

My insurance is reduced by the dashcam which I use (i.e I've got no interest in reporting supposed bad driving or all that nonsense dashcam users are famous for) and it occurs to me that I collect evidence almost daily of these minority creating the pollution the Mayor of London is supposed to be addressing.

Is there any kind of system in place to get these things off the road quicksmart and fining the perps using dashcam footage as a means of detection?


(for clarity I'm genuinely concerned for my health having to breathe in London. It's utterly ridiculous how polluted the air is)

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

178 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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supermono said:
I'm the least "green" person you'll meet. With that out of the way, as a London worker and cyclist and someone who drives into Westminster most days I'm sick of seeing these clapped out old stters belching out yards of soot whenever they pull away. Usually black cabs which I'm assuming have to go through some sort of enhanced MOT type thing, clearly finding a way around it.

My insurance is reduced by the dashcam which I use (i.e I've got no interest in reporting supposed bad driving or all that nonsense dashcam users are famous for) and it occurs to me that I collect evidence almost daily of these minority creating the pollution the Mayor of London is supposed to be addressing.

Is there any kind of system in place to get these things off the road quicksmart and fining the perps using dashcam footage as a means of detection?


(for clarity I'm genuinely concerned for my health having to breathe in London. It's utterly ridiculous how polluted the air is)
Blame labour! Blair forced people into diesels with car tax and company car tax being so heavy on petrols.

Now people who never ever should of bought a diesel did so due to tax and resale value fears and suprise suprise our cities are getting like chinese, full of smog.

As for reporting them, whats the difference between using dash cam footage to report bad driving & using it to report polluting vehicles?

Unfortunately alot of dash cammers I see now drive terrible steam in situations and some even shout tonnes of abuse at someone just turning in the road for example.

I don't tend to post my stuff just keep it for really serious stuff as people seem to keen to grass people up over minor errors.

Taxis take a similar MOT but its an annual thing from brand new, no 3 year wait.

Most modern diesels aren't designed for city use they need some highway 50 plus work to burn off some of the nasties. They could well pass their MOT and in 6/9 months be smoking excessively due to build up carbons etc in the engine, doesn't mean the bodge the MOT.

As for taxi drivers in London what is with those Addison Lee lot? Always driven by brain damaged muppets whenever I see them.


Edited by surveyor_101 on Wednesday 22 March 13:37

KevinCamaroSS

11,553 posts

279 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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surveyor_101 said:
Blame labour! Blair forced people into diesels with car tax and company car tax being so heavy on petrols.
Almost, company car BIK tax is higher on diesels (add 3% to the equivalent Petrol %age)

BoRED S2upid

19,641 posts

239 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Move house.

s3fella

10,524 posts

186 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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supermono said:
I'm the least "green" person you'll meet. With that out of the way, as a London worker and cyclist and someone who drives into Westminster most days I'm sick of seeing these clapped out old stters belching out yards of soot whenever they pull away. Usually black cabs which I'm assuming have to go through some sort of enhanced MOT type thing, clearly finding a way around it.

My insurance is reduced by the dashcam which I use (i.e I've got no interest in reporting supposed bad driving or all that nonsense dashcam users are famous for) and it occurs to me that I collect evidence almost daily of these minority creating the pollution the Mayor of London is supposed to be addressing.

Is there any kind of system in place to get these things off the road quicksmart and fining the perps using dashcam footage as a means of detection?


(for clarity I'm genuinely concerned for my health having to breathe in London. It's utterly ridiculous how polluted the air is)
DCW!!

If you are concerned for your health, you need to move. You cannot expect everyone else to change for you, and if you get the black cabs beching smoke out the city and off the roads, you will soon find something else to worry about!

Move out to somewhere more pleasant, check the dashcam, your insurance will be less in a not london location.

Despite property prices, what celebs, rich Chinese and Arabs think, London is an utter sthole!

supermono

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7,368 posts

247 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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This isn't about moving house nor is it a general moan about properly functioning diesels, that's another debate altogether.

It's about a proper air pollution problem that's genuinely killing people according to the reports, caused by ignorant tts who've somehow managed to circumvent anti-pollution tests and need holding to account. The yards of thick putrid smoke guffing out of some of these old stters is beyond a joke and they're driving around all day long and getting away with it. Christ knows now much st they belch out in a shift.

And the reason for being exercised about this is these folks are causing a crackdown that'll effect the 99% of road users taking the time and responsibility of maintaining their vehicles properly.

So please don't confuse me with a general moaner.

I'm guessing there's no whistleblowing line then to get these sheds into the crusher?

rxe

6,700 posts

102 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Stop driving into Westminster. There is good public transport, you're part of the problem. :-)

I've lived in London for 20+ years. I've never seen fewer cars belching anything or have perceived the air to be cleaner.

playalistic

2,269 posts

163 months

Centurion07

10,381 posts

246 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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It's a vicious circle: a proper test at "MOT" time would likely fail most vehicles, which means the drivers won't return to that testing station as well as suddenly having a huge effect on a great number of owner/drivers.

Chasing an emissions output on an older vehicle is nigh on impossible which is why testing stations are quite lenient.

If all the taxis and buses were taken off the road tomorrow that would fail an emissions test, I bet it would be more than half the total number registered.

Red Devil

13,055 posts

207 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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surveyor_101 said:
Most modern diesels aren't designed for city use they need some highway 50 plus work to burn off some of the nasties. They could well pass their MOT and in 6/9 months be smoking excessively due to build up carbons etc in the engine, doesn't mean the bodge the MOT.
yes The issue is lots of people spend the majority of their time on short stop/start journeys in urban environments. The upshot is a clogged DPF.
It needs a decent d/c or motorway blast to get the temps up sufficiently to initiate a regen. If left long enough without one, the DPF will fail and need replacing,


anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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So with all the reductions in speed limits, can you 'regen' the dpf at 20mph?

caelite

4,273 posts

111 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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I miss my old DERV *sigh*, good ole euro 2 agricultural unit with a side exit straight through exhaust especially for the lycra crew smile.

Next one I pick up will be a defender, I have an unquenchable thirst for one, complete with janky remap and straight pipe.

CoolHands

18,496 posts

194 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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I put a similar post up a couple of years ago about buses. There's a link, you have to jump through some bullst hoops, and it's only possible for buses or lorries. Funny that, eh.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

178 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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gottans said:
So with all the reductions in speed limits, can you 'regen' the dpf at 20mph?
No 50 plus I believe