I love the EU because...

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Bosshogg76

792 posts

184 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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PH XKR said:
Southern states are suffering because lazy workshy subsidised skill sets.

Spain will fall without uk net contribution. The reason we have an influx from eastern europe is because they want jobs, but where are the Greeks or Spanish migrants?
The Greek and Spanish immigrants are currently propping up the uk aviation industry I'm in. Looking around the crew room at the moment about 50-60% Spanish or Greek., 10% or so Eastern European, the rest Brits. Winter time for the major work, with the use of contractors, 70-80% of the manpower was Spanish or Greek

Edited by Bosshogg76 on Wednesday 29th March 16:32

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Mandalore said:
crankedup said:
Mandalore said:
Nobody LOVES the EU FFS!


But, people who know that life outside the European Economic Community would be a worse prospect voted with their head and not their heart.


Why is that so hard is that for some people to understand?

Edited by Mandalore on Wednesday 29th March 12:53
Looking at the UK economic performance since the 2016 referendum. Virtually all of the 'experts' told us how doom and gloom would be upon us from the get go after the vote. The reality is the opposite, this hardly gives any confidence that anti brexiters are any more correct in their assertions now.
I think you'll find they referred to the impact of the exit itself, not the vote to carry out the exis.

You do seem incapable of separating the two events as one being 'intent' and the other the 'act'.
Strangely it seems to have passed you over, the point is the 'so called' experts all called it wrong from the outset. Try reading the posts and then respond.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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PH XKR said:
Southern states are suffering because lazy workshy subsidised skill sets.

Spain will fall without uk net contribution. The reason we have an influx from eastern europe is because they want jobs, but where are the Greeks or Spanish migrants?
It's always entertaining to read opinion so obviously formed by exposure to DailyMail/Express.

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Mandalore said:
crankedup said:
Mandalore said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
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crankedup said:
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crankedup said:
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davepoth said:
They aren't moving everything. What's extremely telling about (as far as I can tell) all of the bank announcements is that they're moving the absolute bare minimum amount of staff and work to the EU to meet the worst case scenario of no MFID II on Brexit day. London isn't a sinking ship.
That they are moving anything is a tragedy.

Brexit is a shambles.

Did vote leave admit "banks will move" - did they forget to print that on the bus?

Staggering how some shrug it off as "nothing to see".
You. just have been asked many times already perhaps, I may be wrong but I assume that you are employed in the finance industry? Or you are an importer of some discription?
So jobs moving to EU - this is fine with you?

Do you have an opinion or are you just one of the sheep who can't play the ball.
Simply asking an innocent question as politely as is possible, you seem to be a fragile kind judging by your response. Are you telling me that your job is going to upsticks to mainland europe within the eu zone?
Do you want to hear of my opinion , on what?
Simple - bank jobs moving to the EU - OK with you, no problem?
Ah! so as long as the bit of business `you' are involved in, that might gain a benefit by being in the EU is alright, there is `no problem' with many other UK jobs and businesses either being destroyed, or being moved to the EU (And with the added sting of using the money the UK has paid into the EU`s coffers to do it) Such as the UK`s fishing industry, or Ford plant at Southampton?
You have to do what is best for the UK as a whole, not just the little bit that effects you, which is why you must support Brexit totally, and not be a lackey for the EU monster.
Fishing Plus Transit workers annual income tax payments = Annual Income Tax from Finance & technology (and advertising, and service industry, and office suplly etc etc) Workers whose jobs are directly related to the EEC passport rules on selling products to other EU countries.

^^ Who knew smile


We missed a chance to Bankrupt ISIS years earlier by offering Crankedup's free services as their chief economist and policy adviser. laugh
I must insist that you delete your last paragraph associating my posts to ISIS. It's not funny, clever or relevant.
For the record, I can see that I have quite clearly stated that you are not associated in any way with ISIS.

However, if the majority of posters feel the same, I change the bankrupt organisations name to something similar with a motoring twist like Delorean.








Edited by Mandalore on Wednesday 29th March 15:03
Never associate my name or posts again with any organisation that represents anything less than intergrity, honesty and decency. As for the remaining quips, whatever you get off on!

Murph7355

37,761 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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julian64 said:
I love the EU because....

In many ways they are better than us, and we can learn from them. The problem I find is that hating Europe is somewhat akin to racism. Without being too inflammatory because its obviously not racism but there are similar undesirable attributes in common.

People who are ardently anti Europe are most likely never to have travelled much in the same way that people who are racist are very unlikely to have a widespread set of diverse culture friends/work colleagues. Unfortunately the relationship seems to be linear.

Travel for any period of time in Europe with your eyes open and two things happen, you appreciate good old UK for what you miss abroad. You also see a combination of things you dislike abroad and things you love that the UK has either lost or never understood because it never tried.

I love the EU because when you are standing in the EU and look back you can see all the best bits about the UK and all the rubbish, and at the same time as being happy to be back you can ask that for some things why can't we be more European.

That particular desire to improve would not occur otherwise, and is likely to be reversing now as we detach.
All lovely.

Now take all references to the EU and Europe out, replace with "the world" (or "worldly" where the grammar is needed) and all references to UK with EU.

The sentiment is the same. If the concepts the EU holds dear (4 freedoms,ever closer union, central control etc) are so undoubtedly beneficial why (a) do they only apply to 28 member states and (b) must a current member be “punished" for designing to leave...?

If you can provide a convincing answer that cannot also be used to support the case for leaving, I'll donate £50 to the charity of your choice.

vonuber

17,868 posts

166 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Bosshogg76 said:
The Greek and Spanish immigrants are currently propping up the uk aviation industry I'm in. Looking around the crew room at the moment about 50-60% Spanish or Greek., 10% or so Eastern European, the rest Brits. Winter time for the major work, with the use of contractors, 70-80% of the manpower was Spanish or Greek

Edited by Bosshogg76 on Wednesday 29th March 16:32
There's a lot of Spanish and Greek civil engineers in our company.

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
gazza285 said:
crankedup said:
Mandalore said:
We missed a chance to Bankrupt ISIS years earlier by offering Crankedup's free services as their chief economist and policy adviser. laugh
I must insist that you delete your last paragraph associating my posts to ISIS. It's not funny, clever or relevant.
Like much on this thread then.
The whole being compared to terrorists in some way has become hip and trendy recently.
Jeeeeez, how thick do people have to be not to understand the implications of what it is they are posting. In no way shape or form am I trendy, although I was in 1967 hehe

Mandalore

4,220 posts

114 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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crankedup said:
Never associate my name or posts again with any organisation that represents anything less than intergrity, honesty and decency. As for the remaining quips, whatever you get off on!
But,,,,, my mum told me never to lie and dad said it was wrong to try and gild a turd.


danllama

5,728 posts

143 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
Sent you a PM. I don't want to use my anecdotes here.
Thanks, I'll have a read when I'm home tonight.

Murph7355

37,761 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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crankedup said:
Never associate my name or posts again with any organisation that represents anything less than intergrity, honesty and decency. As for the remaining quips, whatever you get off on!
Like the CoOp biggrin

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Murph7355 said:
crankedup said:
Never associate my name or posts again with any organisation that represents anything less than intergrity, honesty and decency. As for the remaining quips, whatever you get off on!
Like the CoOp biggrin
Cheeky hehe

B'stard Child

28,451 posts

247 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Mandalore said:
crankedup said:
Never associate my name or posts again with any organisation that represents anything less than intergrity, honesty and decency. As for the remaining quips, whatever you get off on!
But,,,,, my mum told me never to lie and dad said it was wrong to try and gild a turd.
If it's fresh that's the best time to roll it in glitter - it sticks better biggrin

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Mandalore said:
crankedup said:
Never associate my name or posts again with any organisation that represents anything less than intergrity, honesty and decency. As for the remaining quips, whatever you get off on!
But,,,,, my mum told me never to lie and dad said it was wrong to try and gild a turd.
Too much for you?


PH XKR

1,761 posts

103 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
PH XKR said:
Southern states are suffering because lazy workshy subsidised skill sets.

Spain will fall without uk net contribution. The reason we have an influx from eastern europe is because they want jobs, but where are the Greeks or Spanish migrants?
It's always entertaining to read opinion so obviously formed by exposure to DailyMail/Express.
never read either. If the south is so bad, why are they not moving here in droves like the eastern bloc states? One can only assume they dont want/need work (benefits), or things are not that bad.

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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PH XKR said:
ever read either. If the south is so bad, why are they not moving here in droves like the eastern bloc states? One can only assume they dont want/need work (benefits), or things are not that bad.
There are 63,000 Spanish people thought to be in the UK, and probably a lot more than that in reality. There are especially a lot of Spanish people in Bristol, it seems.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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PH XKR said:
jjlynn27 said:
PH XKR said:
Southern states are suffering because lazy workshy subsidised skill sets.

Spain will fall without uk net contribution. The reason we have an influx from eastern europe is because they want jobs, but where are the Greeks or Spanish migrants?
It's always entertaining to read opinion so obviously formed by exposure to DailyMail/Express.
never read either. If the south is so bad, why are they not moving here in droves like the eastern bloc states? One can only assume they dont want/need work (benefits), or things are not that bad.


Anything else?

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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crankedup said:
MrBrightSi said:
gazza285 said:
crankedup said:
Mandalore said:
We missed a chance to Bankrupt ISIS years earlier by offering Crankedup's free services as their chief economist and policy adviser. laugh
I must insist that you delete your last paragraph associating my posts to ISIS. It's not funny, clever or relevant.
Like much on this thread then.
The whole being compared to terrorists in some way has become hip and trendy recently.
Jeeeeez, how thick do people have to be not to understand the implications of what it is they are posting. In no way shape or form am I trendy, although I was in 1967 hehe
Crankedup. Bearing in mind that you are one of the few people on PH with a reputation large enough for people to openly discuss you at PH events, I find it amusing that you seem upset.

It's called Karma in some religions.

XCP

16,943 posts

229 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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davepoth said:
There are 63,000 Spanish people thought to be in the UK, and probably a lot more than that in reality. There are especially a lot of Spanish people in Bristol, it seems.
I've lived here all my life, can't say I've noticed particularly.

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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Hol said:
crankedup said:
MrBrightSi said:
gazza285 said:
crankedup said:
Mandalore said:
We missed a chance to Bankrupt ISIS years earlier by offering Crankedup's free services as their chief economist and policy adviser. laugh
I must insist that you delete your last paragraph associating my posts to ISIS. It's not funny, clever or relevant.
Like much on this thread then.
The whole being compared to terrorists in some way has become hip and trendy recently.
Jeeeeez, how thick do people have to be not to understand the implications of what it is they are posting. In no way shape or form am I trendy, although I was in 1967 hehe
Crankedup. Bearing in mind that you are one of the few people on PH with a reputation large enough for people to openly discuss you at PH events, I find it amusing that you seem upset.

It's called Karma in some religions.
Caught me on an off day and then some gobste uses my name and ISIS in the same sentence is beyond a bit of fun. Today is a new day, and we are leaving the eu, always a bright side. hippy

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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vonuber said:
Bosshogg76 said:
The Greek and Spanish immigrants are currently propping up the uk aviation industry I'm in. Looking around the crew room at the moment about 50-60% Spanish or Greek., 10% or so Eastern European, the rest Brits. Winter time for the major work, with the use of contractors, 70-80% of the manpower was Spanish or Greek

Edited by Bosshogg76 on Wednesday 29th March 16:32
There's a lot of Spanish and Greek civil engineers in our company.
There's a lot of Brits currently living out thier twighlight years in Spain and France, if the eu have an ounce (gram) of sense nothing will change for them in terms of 'home'. Same goes for eu workers here in the UK? It's the first negation, or at least very high on the agenda, as we all know.