I love the EU because...

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crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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battered said:
crankedup said:
battered said:
Balmoral said:
battered said:
What has been proven by the ONS is that the EU migrants to UK have on the whole contributed more money in taxes etc than they have cost.
I don't understand the distinction being made, surely it would be the same for non EU migrants too? Even more so, as they don't enjoy the same rights, privileges or entitlements.

Edited by Balmoral on Thursday 30th March 16:15
Possibly so. However the question was "...the EU" so I'm talking about EU migrants making a positive contribution, which is more than can be said for certain sectors of the indigenous population. This may also be true about non-EU migrants, it doesn't detract from the positive contribution of the EU set.
The question is just how long can the UK sustain the number of immigrants entering the UK.
If, for example, Romainia, Bulgaria, Poland offered reciprocal benifit s in terms of employment and Social care perhaps UK residents may have been tempted to cross over to those Countries. As it is it seems that the UK is the number one distination for way too many eu and other immigrants. Be good to have some control over our borders
You can say the same about the north of England and the south east. Why is all the work in London, why do we allow people like me to travel from the north (Leeds) every week? How long can London sustain this? (Erm...indefinitely, it seems). I work in a factory in outer SE London, inside the M25, near the Dartford Xing. They pay for me to be in an hotel. Also there - a bloke from Selby. Another from Wakefield. Leicester. Milton K. Birmingham. All of us on the M11/A1/M1/M6 tonight. Why? Because it pays. Because there are not enough skilled people wanting to do this work in SE London. When are we going to stop these Yorkshiremen coming down here and taking our jobs?
Your not alone asking questions such as those ^^^^
I live in East Anglia, terrible infrastructure, low wage economy. I had the choice to stick or go, I chose to stick.

The UK has a shortage of some skilled workers as well as some unskilled sector jobs. IMO!
these shortages have in the main been brought about by bad Government policies of both colours over the past 4 decades.
The worst policy was the cessation of apprenticeships. The focus upon university education has been another disaster and the import of cheap labour.

Our daughter left East Anglia to work in London, she earns a large salary and enjoys city social life as well. It's suits her and her husband very well, we wouldn't even consider the option.

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Jockman said:
battered said:
You can say the same about the north of England and the south east. Why is all the work in London, why do we allow people like me to travel from the north (Leeds) every week? How long can London sustain this? (Erm...indefinitely, it seems). I work in a factory in outer SE London, inside the M25, near the Dartford Xing. They pay for me to be in an hotel. Also there - a bloke from Selby. Another from Wakefield. Leicester. Milton K. Birmingham. All of us on the M11/A1/M1/M6 tonight. Why? Because it pays. Because there are not enough skilled people wanting to do this work in SE London. When are we going to stop these Yorkshiremen coming down here and taking our jobs?
Is it because you are cheaper?
No. I'm a contractor. With exes I cost a good deal more. However I'm available now and deliver the goods from day 1. Just wrapped the contract up, after 5 months. they now have a permy. Hope he sticks. There is a huge skills shortage, this is skilled work in food manufacturing management, paying decent money, but the right people are scarce.

PH XKR

1,761 posts

102 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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As a contractor who voted leave but working in Brussels, I love the EU for the irony.

princealbert23

2,575 posts

161 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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TTwiggy said:
Your trolling is tedious.

Your positions are predictably pathetic.

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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battered said:
Jockman said:
battered said:
You can say the same about the north of England and the south east. Why is all the work in London, why do we allow people like me to travel from the north (Leeds) every week? How long can London sustain this? (Erm...indefinitely, it seems). I work in a factory in outer SE London, inside the M25, near the Dartford Xing. They pay for me to be in an hotel. Also there - a bloke from Selby. Another from Wakefield. Leicester. Milton K. Birmingham. All of us on the M11/A1/M1/M6 tonight. Why? Because it pays. Because there are not enough skilled people wanting to do this work in SE London. When are we going to stop these Yorkshiremen coming down here and taking our jobs?
Is it because you are cheaper?
No. I'm a contractor. With exes I cost a good deal more. However I'm available now and deliver the goods from day 1. Just wrapped the contract up, after 5 months. they now have a permy. Hope he sticks. There is a huge skills shortage, this is skilled work in food manufacturing management, paying decent money, but the right people are scarce.
Food management

forum name 'battered'.

From Leeds.

You're Harry Ramsden, aren't you!!

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

109 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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PH XKR said:
As a contractor who voted leave but working in Brussels, I love the EU for the irony.
What irony?

PH XKR

1,761 posts

102 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
PH XKR said:
As a contractor who voted leave but working in Brussels, I love the EU for the irony.
What irony?
good point

I love the europeans

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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johnfm said:
Food management

forum name 'battered'.

From Leeds.

You're Harry Ramsden, aren't you!!
Damn. Busted. :-p

Murph7355

37,715 posts

256 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
What irony?
That he voted Leave but is working in Brussels?

Pan Pan Pan

9,905 posts

111 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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JawKnee said:
Lefty said:
Why anyone would feel love for a political union and economic trade bloc of those countries I don't really know.
Isn't that largely what the UK is?

Things I like about the EU:
1) Our rebate
2) The single market
3) Being part of the Single Market without needing the Euro. A best of both worlds scenario for this country
4) This country having a seat at the top table and the power to influence and Veto parts of EU legislature.

We're currently members on very favourable terms which has benefited this country massively. Shame all that is about to be thrown away.
Yep! we are members on very favourable terms...For the EU, but definitely not for the UK.

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Definitely not. Says you.

We're going to find out what we used to get from the EU when we have to rewrite it all post 2019. Meanwhile some of the papers are having wet dreams because we're getting blue passports back. Well, I'm glad they are tackling the important stuff first. That's going to make all the difference.

PH XKR

1,761 posts

102 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Can I have chips with my cod please Harry?

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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Course you can love. You having peas too, or scraps?

BigMacDaddy

963 posts

181 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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mmmmmm...... scraps


lick

PH XKR

1,761 posts

102 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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battered said:
Course you can love. You having peas too, or scraps?
this is why I love eu

Alex

9,975 posts

284 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
What irony?
Is that like brassy or goldy, but less expensive?

KrissKross

2,182 posts

101 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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JawKnee said:
1) Our rebate
Just to clarify, if you gave me £20 and I gave you £10 back. You would think that is a good deal.

Ok...

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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The EU doesn't work like a market stall. The economics is a bit more complicated than that. That's why there won't be £330M a week (or whatever) to spend on the NHS.

Put it another way, would you prefer 10% of £1M, or 5% of £3M?

dandarez

13,282 posts

283 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Alex said:
jjlynn27 said:
What irony?
Is that like brassy or goldy, but less expensive?
Platinummy reply! hehe

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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battered said:
The EU doesn't work like a market stall. The economics is a bit more complicated than that. That's why there won't be £330M a week (or whatever) to spend on the NHS.

Put it another way, would you prefer 10% of £1M, or 5% of £3M?
I'm fairly certain that the EU has yet to audit and sign off a few transactions going back a number of years. That and the EU grandiose, hefty staffing, constant jollies for MEP's, Looking at the Buildings recently paid for by the EU, a very fancy library ffs, a library!!! even the recipients in Wales are bemused.Trip through Spain and enjoy mile after mile of new dual carriageway roads, all empty of traffic, Airports built and unused. Absolute joke if it were not so serious, how to squander money on. industrial scale.