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Gavia

7,627 posts

91 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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turbobloke said:
Both parties to the interview were demonstrating how to be a politician,

In terms of religions, yes there is violence shown by all of them, in terms of a follower or two from time to time, but how does that address what we faced in London and what other countries have faced from France to Tunisia and beyond?

When looking at the present situation globally, after reading your post I reflected on how many terrorist atrocities against the public have been committed by, say, tiny but radicalised % numbers of Sikhs or Buddhists in e.g. the past ten years or so.
France is a different situation due to them colonising North Africa. They have had terrorist attacks for decades, but were previously described as separatist attacks. I'm not sure what you mean by "faced in London" though. It was one man who acted alone. What he did was disgraceful and inexcusable, but it's not an every day occurrence and using your 10 year reference point, then it's the only attack that's happened in that time.

The Buddhists in Myanmar (Burma) are a disgrace and violent nutters. They just tend not to attack the West, so it's largely ignored over here. No idea about Sikhs, but there are lots of other religions that you've not mentioned.

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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In other recent news....

200 civilians killed by US by air strike over the weekend.

I wonder if anyone will be demanding Christians apologise in public?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/u...

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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p1stonhead said:
In other recent news....

200 civilians killed by US by air strike over the weekend.

I wonder if anyone will be demanding Christians apologise in public?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/u...
Whoever is right or wrong, this is the stuff terrorism feeds off.

ellroy

7,030 posts

225 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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You know the pilot was a Christian then?

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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p1stonhead said:
In other recent news....

200 civilians killed by US by air strike over the weekend.

I wonder if anyone will be demanding Christians apologise in public?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/u...
In a war, in a battle for a populated city......not great but it will happen in war. War is ste for everybody. IF the US had targeted a school in Malaysia for example you may of had a point.

As an attempt to compare to a terrorist act that is weak.

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
p1stonhead said:
In other recent news....

200 civilians killed by US by air strike over the weekend.

I wonder if anyone will be demanding Christians apologise in public?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/u...
In a war, in a battle for a populated city......not great but it will happen in war. War is ste for everybody. IF the US had targeted a school in Malaysia for example you may of had a point.

As an attempt to compare to a terrorist act that is weak.
'Not great (fk me) but it will happen' Got it. rolleyes

What do you think it looks like to the civilians on the ground who just saw a missile drop on them or their neighbours and families apparently indiscriminately? 'Oh it's a war that's fine'.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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p1stonhead said:
'Not great (fk me) but it will happen' Got it. rolleyes
You do talk a load of bks at times P1......are you really saying they planned to kill innocents ?

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
p1stonhead said:
'Not great (fk me) but it will happen' Got it. rolleyes
You do talk a load of bks at times P1
Yeah and you don't Mr 'Banned from the Trump thread for constant spouting of nonsense' laugh

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Stickyfinger said:
p1stonhead said:
'Not great (fk me) but it will happen' Got it. rolleyes
You do talk a load of bks at times P1
Yeah and you don't Mr 'Left the Trump thread due to constant personal insults from tts like you' laugh
FTFY

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
p1stonhead said:
Stickyfinger said:
p1stonhead said:
'Not great (fk me) but it will happen' Got it. rolleyes
You do talk a load of bks at times P1
Yeah and you don't Mr 'Left the Trump thread due to constant personal insults from tts like you' laugh
FTFY
banned yourself then. Is that like when you voluntarily ban yourself from a casino for gambling tooo much? My friend did that once. Got it! rofl

Anyway back on topic - 200 dead is hardly doing the west any favours is it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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p1stonhead said:
banned yourself then. Is that like when you voluntarily ban yourself from a casino for gambling tooo much? My friend did that once. Got it! rofl

Anyway back on topic - 200 dead is hardly doing the west any favours is it.
No not really. Do you have an idea for an alternative strategy other than air strikes? (Sadly there will inevitably be civilian casualties with air strikes).

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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At this point, I don't think anything could sour relations between Muslims and the West any more than they are already, so I doubt the 200 dead will make much difference politically.

Countdown

39,890 posts

196 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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bmw535i said:
p1stonhead said:
banned yourself then. Is that like when you voluntarily ban yourself from a casino for gambling tooo much? My friend did that once. Got it! rofl

Anyway back on topic - 200 dead is hardly doing the west any favours is it.
No not really. Do you have an idea for an alternative strategy other than air strikes? (Sadly there will inevitably be civilian casualties with air strikes).
Strategy? Strategy for what exactly?

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Countdown said:
bmw535i said:
p1stonhead said:
banned yourself then. Is that like when you voluntarily ban yourself from a casino for gambling tooo much? My friend did that once. Got it! rofl

Anyway back on topic - 200 dead is hardly doing the west any favours is it.
No not really. Do you have an idea for an alternative strategy other than air strikes? (Sadly there will inevitably be civilian casualties with air strikes).
Strategy? Strategy for what exactly?
Exactly. It's not like ISIS have a headquarters.

And apparently our smart bombs just hit things 'over there somewhere'.


anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Countdown said:
Strategy? Strategy for what exactly?
To defeat ISIS. What would be your idea to defeat them?

p1stonhead said:
Exactly. It's not like ISIS have a headquarters.

And apparently our smart bombs just hit things 'over there somewhere'.
Would you be able to answer my question? It is quite easy to criticise an action, and I'd be interested to hear what you would suggest doing instead.


p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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bmw535i said:
Countdown said:
Strategy? Strategy for what exactly?
To defeat ISIS. What would be your idea to defeat them?

p1stonhead said:
Exactly. It's not like ISIS have a headquarters.

And apparently our smart bombs just hit things 'over there somewhere'.
Would you be able to answer my question? It is quite easy to criticise an action, and I'd be interested to hear what you would suggest doing instead.
I'm not in charge of a military.

But for starters I would say perhaps sort the aiming out!

'Sadly there will always be civilian casualties' is possibly the problem no?

Do you really think that to everyone on the ground they see us as trying to save them? Or do some see us as very advanced terorrists who strike out of the sky with bombs?



Edited by p1stonhead on Monday 27th March 19:18

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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p1stonhead said:
I'm not in charge of a military.

Do you have any knowledge or experience of military operations?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Stickyfinger said:
In a war, in a battle for a populated city......not great but it will happen in war. War is ste for everybody. IF the US had targeted a school in Malaysia for example you may of had a point.

As an attempt to compare to a terrorist act that is weak.
Ask the innocent people who die as a result of both these and I doubt you'll find many saying "please can we get bombed by the "noble cause", rather than radical Muslims".

It's part of the reason for the raisin d'être of the likes of ISIS.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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bmw535i said:
p1stonhead said:
banned yourself then. Is that like when you voluntarily ban yourself from a casino for gambling tooo much? My friend did that once. Got it! rofl

Anyway back on topic - 200 dead is hardly doing the west any favours is it.
No not really. Do you have an idea for an alternative strategy other than air strikes? (Sadly there will inevitably be civilian casualties with air strikes).
Minding our own business?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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danllama said:
At this point, I don't think anything could sour relations between Muslims and the West any more than they are already, so I doubt the 200 dead will make much difference politically.
Does that mean you don't care about the 200 dead?
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