House of Commons shooting?
Discussion
TTmonkey said:
I heard that three of the people badly injured on the bridge were police, off duty, on way from an award ceremony. Haven't seen it reported widely though.
The story has been reported all day of 3 officers being involved on the bridge, I don't think anyone yet has confirmed any injuries as of yet though. TTmonkey said:
I heard that three of the people badly injured on the bridge were police, off duty, on way from an award ceremony. Haven't seen it reported widely though.
One of the images being used to make a point further up this thread appears to show one of the off duty officers in his best uniform being worked on by members of the public on the bridge.Oakey said:
They're being a bit cagey about the suspect. They say they know who he is then immediately requested 'pro active' journalists refrain from making accusations.
Imagine if it turns out it was Trevor and he's out on day release
More likely that G4S cocked up..... Imagine if it turns out it was Trevor and he's out on day release
Edited by Oakey on Wednesday 22 March 22:35
So, as I read it, the assailant rammed the railings and then then jumped out and ran around to the Palace Yard where he stabbed the policeman.
So in this screen grab we have one body top right under the silver sheet, another being worked in by the car, another body who was knocked down the steps, so no other fatalities on the bridge presumably.
So in this screen grab we have one body top right under the silver sheet, another being worked in by the car, another body who was knocked down the steps, so no other fatalities on the bridge presumably.
BigLion said:
It's quite easy to get into the mind of most terrorists though isn't it? They see innocent people (most likely family) die in the Middle East because of the actions of the west (drone strike or just destabilisation of a country) and someone then harnesses that anger and hatred to kill those in this country as retribution?
Yeah, it's almost like we invaded a completely peaceful and perfect safe country. Not like the leader of which had made half of his political party shoot the other f
king half.It wasn't perfect but we stepped in and if it wasn't for the weak will of the early 90's that farce could of been avoided when sadam invaded saudi.
It's not like we stopped the serbs in the 90's when those f
kers should of been left to carry on their genocide.MrBrightSi said:
BigLion said:
It's quite easy to get into the mind of most terrorists though isn't it? They see innocent people (most likely family) die in the Middle East because of the actions of the west (drone strike or just destabilisation of a country) and someone then harnesses that anger and hatred to kill those in this country as retribution?
Yeah, it's almost like we invaded a completely peaceful and perfect safe country. Not like the leader of which had made half of his political party shoot the other fking half.It wasn't perfect but we stepped in and if it wasn't for the weak will of the early 90's that farce could of been avoided when sadam invaded saudi.
It's not like we stopped the serbs in the 90's when those f
kers should of been left to carry on their genocide.johnxjsc1985 said:
How can anyone with any sense of humanity get into the mind set of a murderer such as this guy today I think its beyond most of us. Had he survived what could we have learned ?.
I think what is a striking contrast today is the site of the Paramedics trying to save a man who wanted to cause us so much harm. Its says a lot about our own values and the people today that did their best to demonstrate the good that we do have within our society good that we tend to over look so readily. The Police and the Ambulance service waded straight into an area which they couldn't possibly know was safe and they did so without concern for the own well being even trying to save the man that caused so much devastation.
Well said, the medics and Police were admirable.I think what is a striking contrast today is the site of the Paramedics trying to save a man who wanted to cause us so much harm. Its says a lot about our own values and the people today that did their best to demonstrate the good that we do have within our society good that we tend to over look so readily. The Police and the Ambulance service waded straight into an area which they couldn't possibly know was safe and they did so without concern for the own well being even trying to save the man that caused so much devastation.
0a said:
Well said John. It really does say something indeed.
Agreed.Wills2 said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
BigLion said:
It's quite easy to get into the mind of most terrorists though isn't it? They see innocent people (most likely family) die in the Middle East because of the actions of the west (drone strike or just destabilisation of a country) and someone then harnesses that anger and hatred to kill those in this country as retribution?
still peddling your anti British agenda then.
Fair play to the MP who attempted to save the PC's life, no doubt in defiance of the other officers who would have likely advised him get somewhere safe. Considering the nature of the attack I imagine he'd have been acutely aware he'd have been a target for any co-conspirators but stayed to help anyway.
I've got less respect for the MP on the news in the immediate aftermath who used it as a platform to pass comment on the officers investigating MPs who fiddle their expenses, suggesting that they'd be better deployed reviewing Westminster security. As it goes, I'd suggest that the security itself did its job well - you'll never stop a determined attacker running through a soft barrier but to have him neutralised within the short distance he was I'd suggest is worthy of praise.
To those questioning why all officers on that post weren't armed, my own opinion is that it's due to a perception, accurate or otherwise, that the public would rather not see armed officers, so a smiling Bobby in a custodian on the gate, with AFOs out of sight ready to respond if necessary.
I've got less respect for the MP on the news in the immediate aftermath who used it as a platform to pass comment on the officers investigating MPs who fiddle their expenses, suggesting that they'd be better deployed reviewing Westminster security. As it goes, I'd suggest that the security itself did its job well - you'll never stop a determined attacker running through a soft barrier but to have him neutralised within the short distance he was I'd suggest is worthy of praise.
To those questioning why all officers on that post weren't armed, my own opinion is that it's due to a perception, accurate or otherwise, that the public would rather not see armed officers, so a smiling Bobby in a custodian on the gate, with AFOs out of sight ready to respond if necessary.
alfie2244 said:
BBc 2 newsnight - Car hired from Enterprise in Birmingham 6 days ago...not sure how they would know this and if so surely they should have kept stum until police release this kind of info?
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