Benefits of Brexit

[Dindoit]

PH XKR said:

So we are back to the point you cant find something with 3 bedrooms as required by law for the kids.

Required by law? Any links on that?

[sparks_E39]

Dindoit said:

PH XKR said:

So we are back to the point you cant find something with 3 bedrooms as required by law for the kids.

Required by law? Any links on that?

Interesting. I haven't heard of this law, not to say it doesn't exist. If it does it's being broken by a substantial amount of families to seemingly no penalty.

[PH XKR]

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Dindoit said:

PH XKR said:

So we are back to the point you cant find something with 3 bedrooms as required by law for the kids.

Required by law? Any links on that?

Google it but after a certain age you cant have oposite sex children in the same room.

[sparks_E39]

PH XKR said:

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Dindoit said:

PH XKR said:

So we are back to the point you cant find something with 3 bedrooms as required by law for the kids.

Required by law? Any links on that?

Google it but after a certain age you cant have oposite sex children in the same room.

Ah yes, that one does exist and is I would imagine widely adhered too.

[Rich_W]

Camoradi said:

minimoog said:

Here's the most popular anticipated/hoped for benefits of Brexit:



Looking forward to stringing up a few (hopefully) wrong 'uns and the rightful restoration of our passport colour.

For England, Lizzy, and St George!

That could be remain voters picking the idiotic options to skew the results

I voted Leave. I know several people who did.

Not one thing on that list has been mentioned by anyone I know! It's got to be a satire or the worst polling ever!

Much like not a single Leave voter has mentioned the £350m red bus slogan. The only people that dredge it up are Remoaners to like to believe all Remain voters are thick or gullible.

[KrissKross]

Murph7355 said:

sparks_E39 said:

Respectfully, I disagree. There is a hope in hell. Christ I know multiple people earning around NMW and they all get on fine. Good honest decent hard working people. Because you don't need to have Sky TV, spend £5 every lunch time or spend more than £35 a week on food for two. You don't have to plough through £30 of booze every weekend and you don't need to send your kids to private school or buy them an iPhone 7 to stop getting bullied. I hear "school fees" a lot on PH. The only "school fees" my parents had to fork out for was around £25 on uniform maybe twice a year and packed lunch. A homemade sandwich some crisps and a drink rather than giving me £25 a week for lunch. You don't have to have a financed car on the drive. A single person can house share. £350 - £400pm in Dorset for somewhere nice. Two sensible people earning NMW can afford £650 pm renting. I know it's down to circumstance but if you're a low earner spending loads commuting, move closer. Car share, cycle. If it's possible, just do something about it. Also relevant to this discussion are children. They aren't an entitlement, you need to be sure that if you are bringing a life into this world you can decently provide for it. Granted it doesn't always work that way, but thinking "we want kids and I'll just bear the repercussions later" isn't the best way forward for someone earning NMW with uncontrollable debts. A low earning couple with a sensible outlook can manage.

It isn't glamorous I agree, but live within your means, you'll have a hope in hell. It is all you need to do. It's what my parents did and what we do, and genuinely, life is good. As detailed we earn not a huge amount more than NMW each, so we are living it, I'm hardly pulling all this out of thin air. The vast majority of people I have seen struggling are the ones who have lived beyond their means for so long, crippling debt is getting on top of them. It's not what they earn that's the issue, it's what they feel they're entitled to. On my wages why am I allowed thousands of pounds worth of credit, that if I were to exploit would cripple me for decades? I shouldn't be. That's the problem, it's too easy. Buy now pay think later is what sends millions of people's finances down the stter.

Putting £550 each into a joint account each month covers everything to do with living costs. We then have other bills circa £200 each. The rest of it is ours to spend or save as we wish. Out of a joint income of around £2600 take home, we're okay. We are planning ahead for kids. With childcare plus the willing assistance of childcare from parents (grandparents to be), maternity pay and other entitlements (read not grabbing every benefit going, but like the NMW using the system properly) we believe we can do it. Sacrifices will have to be made. Jetting off every year for holiday is out of the question and I might not be able to keep a second car.. I'll have to wait for an Xbox game to be in the bargain bin etc etc, but we have these expectations.

+ 2, well done.

[KrissKross]

Rich_W said:

NMW becomes £7.50 from April
Multiply by the traditional 173.33 hours per month = £1299.98
Tax £68
NIC £74
Lets assume £20 a month pension

Net tax figure for someone on £15,600 per year... £816 tax contribution.

[otolith]

PH XKR said:

Google it but after a certain age you cant have oposite sex children in the same room.

NSPCC says otherwise, though some local authorities have rules for rented accommodation.


https://www.nspcc.org.uk/preventing-abuse/child-pr...

[IroningMan]

minimoog said:

Here's the most popular anticipated/hoped for benefits of Brexit:



Looking forward to stringing up a few (hopefully) wrong 'uns and the rightful restoration of our passport colour.

For England, Lizzy, and St George!

Thank heavens 'fewer brown people' wasn't one of the options offered.

[Atomic12C]

So to continue this thread....

if the media were not on a total mission to keep propagating fear in the populous in aid of their agenda and viewing numbers, I think the potential positives of Brexit should be well known by now; however it would seem there is a large amount of fear that is still being installed by the likes of BBC and SKY to name a few.

Potential benefits...
(1) Having control over laws and implementation.
(2) Having control over taxation (VAT etc)
(3) Ability to 'import' labour that will be of benefit to the UK.
(4) Fewer trade barriers with the rest of the world.
(5) Economic growth that is not linked to the debts of the EU.

[PH XKR]

Good points

[feef]

otolith said:

PH XKR said:

Google it but after a certain age you cant have oposite sex children in the same room.

NSPCC says otherwise, though some local authorities have rules for rented accommodation.


https://www.nspcc.org.uk/preventing-abuse/child-pr...

I believe it relates to council/housing association lets, not private lets nor a legal requirement for families in private lets.

[Balmoral]

Benefits of Brexit?

An end to immigrant apartheid, I think this is a really good one

[PH XKR]

Balmoral said:

Benefits of Brexit?

An end to immigrant apartheid, I think this is a really good one

quite! The EU is very anti immigration

[jjlynn27]

PH XKR said:

Google it but after a certain age you cant have oposite sex children in the same room.

Why do you come up with all these bullst theories dressed as facts?

You were wrong on southern countries. You are wrong on this.

It's almost trumpetesque quality there.

[///ajd]

Atomic12C said:

So to continue this thread....

if the media were not on a total mission to keep propagating fear in the populous in aid of their agenda and viewing numbers, I think the potential positives of Brexit should be well known by now; however it would seem there is a large amount of fear that is still being installed by the likes of BBC and SKY to name a few.

Potential benefits...
(1) Having control over laws and implementation.
(2) Having control over taxation (VAT etc)
(3) Ability to 'import' labour that will be of benefit to the UK.
(4) Fewer trade barriers with the rest of the world.
(5) Economic growth that is not linked to the debts of the EU.

Its not quite got going this thread has it.

Perhaps it is a lack of material - can we flesh out some of the benefits above?

1) which laws shall we now change - top 3?
2) what shall we do - higher or lower, and what will be the benefit?
3) which labour is it that we can't import now?
4) which trade barriers shall we reduce - top 3?
5) debts of the EU? do you mean EU nations? which ones are holding us back and how?

We can add another

6) cheaper fish and chips
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien...

Edited by ///ajd on Thursday 30th March 20:40

[crankedup]

///ajd said:

Atomic12C said:

So to continue this thread....

if the media were not on a total mission to keep propagating fear in the populous in aid of their agenda and viewing numbers, I think the potential positives of Brexit should be well known by now; however it would seem there is a large amount of fear that is still being installed by the likes of BBC and SKY to name a few.

Potential benefits...
(1) Having control over laws and implementation.
(2) Having control over taxation (VAT etc)
(3) Ability to 'import' labour that will be of benefit to the UK.
(4) Fewer trade barriers with the rest of the world.
(5) Economic growth that is not linked to the debts of the EU.

Its not quite got going this thread has it.

Perhaps it is a lack of material - can we flesh out some of the benefits above?

1) which laws shall we now change - top 3?
2) what shall we do - higher or lower, and what will be the benefit?
3) which labour is it that we can't import now?
4) which trade barriers shall we reduce - top 3?
5) debts of the EU? do you mean EU nations? which ones are holding us back and how?

We can add another

6) cheaper fish and chips
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien...

Edited by ///ajd on Thursday 30th March 20:40

But the point is this, we, the UK, will decide upon these issues once we have left the eu. That is the point of Brexit.

[Rich_W]

KrissKross said:

Rich_W said:

NMW becomes £7.50 from April
Multiply by the traditional 173.33 hours per month = £1299.98
Tax £68
NIC £74
Lets assume £20 a month pension

Net tax figure for someone on £15,600 per year... £816 tax contribution.

Eh?

£68 x 12 is £816.

Congratulations. You have told us something we already knew

[PH XKR]

I hope we regain our fisheries or use it as a means to strong arm spain

[KrissKross]

Rich_W said:

KrissKross said:

Rich_W said:

NMW becomes £7.50 from April
Multiply by the traditional 173.33 hours per month = £1299.98
Tax £68
NIC £74
Lets assume £20 a month pension

Net tax figure for someone on £15,600 per year... £816 tax contribution.

Eh?

£68 x 12 is £816.

Congratulations. You have told us something we already knew

Sorry, I was almost waffling to myself when I did that.

My point was meant to go on to talk about the constant bleating from remainers about the benefits migrants bring, 90% are unskilled therefore their tax contributions to the UK coffers are actually a big negative.

A visit to the doctors and your contribution has almost gone. A child in state education, is it £10k per child a year?

You get the point.