Benefits of Brexit

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///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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crankedup said:
///ajd said:
Atomic12C said:
So to continue this thread....

if the media were not on a total mission to keep propagating fear in the populous in aid of their agenda and viewing numbers, I think the potential positives of Brexit should be well known by now; however it would seem there is a large amount of fear that is still being installed by the likes of BBC and SKY to name a few.

Potential benefits...
(1) Having control over laws and implementation.
(2) Having control over taxation (VAT etc)
(3) Ability to 'import' labour that will be of benefit to the UK.
(4) Fewer trade barriers with the rest of the world.
(5) Economic growth that is not linked to the debts of the EU.

Its not quite got going this thread has it.

Perhaps it is a lack of material - can we flesh out some of the benefits above?

1) which laws shall we now change - top 3?
2) what shall we do - higher or lower, and what will be the benefit?
3) which labour is it that we can't import now?
4) which trade barriers shall we reduce - top 3?
5) debts of the EU? do you mean EU nations? which ones are holding us back and how?

We can add another

6) cheaper fish and chips
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien...


Edited by ///ajd on Thursday 30th March 20:40
But the point is this, we, the UK, will decide upon these issues once we have left the eu. That is the point of Brexit.
But can you flesh it out with some examples?

If you can't it comes across as you're just parroting some irrelevant "bendy banana" anti EU drivel from the Express.

I'm sure that is not the case - come on, this is the brexit benefit thread - lets see the specific pluses rolled out so we can look forward to them.

KrissKross

2,182 posts

102 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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///ajd said:
lets see the specific pluses
Your questions seem to be based around the supernatural sometimes. Do you read horoscopes or such like?

If you run a business, you might have a marketing team, sales people and a bit of experience. Piece them together with a good cash flow and you might be able to predict the next few weeks or months to help your business grow. If someone knew how to get this spot on they would be a trillionaire.

To be able to answer in the way you expect would mean that people will need to see into the future, well you might be aware that is not possible, so don't ask questions that no human is capable of answering.

Good things for any home or country:

Control & safety, ie who you let in/out of your house, do you leave your front door open when you go to work, if you don't can I ask why?

Teamwork, when the team of 10 has 9 accountants and one person doing something productive, guess who will loose their job first?

Common sense, hugely lacking these days. Not measurable with a certificate or degree.

Numbers, what we need v what we do not need. Very binary and nothing to do with race or sex.

Other stuff but if you don't agree on the above I suggest you go back to consulting the stars for an answer. By the way I have a unicorn for sale if you want it?


///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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KrissKross said:
///ajd said:
lets see the specific pluses
Your questions seem to be based around the supernatural sometimes. Do you read horoscopes or such like?

If you run a business, you might have a marketing team, sales people and a bit of experience. Piece them together with a good cash flow and you might be able to predict the next few weeks or months to help your business grow. If someone knew how to get this spot on they would be a trillionaire.

To be able to answer in the way you expect would mean that people will need to see into the future, well you might be aware that is not possible, so don't ask questions that no human is capable of answering.

Good things for any home or country:

Control & safety, ie who you let in/out of your house, do you leave your front door open when you go to work, if you don't can I ask why?

Teamwork, when the team of 10 has 9 accountants and one person doing something productive, guess who will loose their job first?

Common sense, hugely lacking these days. Not measurable with a certificate or degree.

Numbers, what we need v what we do not need. Very binary and nothing to do with race or sex.

Other stuff but if you don't agree on the above I suggest you go back to consulting the stars for an answer. By the way I have a unicorn for sale if you want it?
But we should not need to look into the future to list e.g. the laws you would change now to improve your business conditions.

Can you list any specific changes that we should make NOW against the list of 5 issues?

KrissKross

2,182 posts

102 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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///ajd said:
Can you list .......
Which of these 4 do you disagree with:

1- Control & safety, ie who you let in/out of your house, do you leave your front door open when you go to work, if you don't can I ask why?

2- Teamwork, when the team of 10 has 9 accountants and one person doing something productive, guess who will loose their job first?

3- Common sense, hugely lacking these days. Not measurable with a certificate or degree.

4- Numbers, what we need v what we do not need. Very binary and nothing to do with race or sex.

KrissKross

2,182 posts

102 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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///ajd said:
laws you would change now to improve your business conditions.
Many laws generally don't help improve business, they only hinder. You "cant do that" is not a way to help a business?


johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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KrissKross said:
Many laws generally don't help improve business, they only hinder. You "cant do that" is not a way to help a business?
He should go on board a small fishing vessel as they discard healthy fish because the fish didn't realise that that particular net had reached its quota of their species.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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KrissKross said:
Sorry, I was almost waffling to myself when I did that.

My point was meant to go on to talk about the constant bleating from remainers about the benefits migrants bring, 90% are unskilled therefore their tax contributions to the UK coffers are actually a big negative.

A visit to the doctors and your contribution has almost gone. A child in state education, is it £10k per child a year?

You get the point.
90% of immigrants unskilled. rofl

Where did you get the figure from?

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 31st March 2017
quotequote all
///ajd said:
crankedup said:
///ajd said:
Atomic12C said:
So to continue this thread....

if the media were not on a total mission to keep propagating fear in the populous in aid of their agenda and viewing numbers, I think the potential positives of Brexit should be well known by now; however it would seem there is a large amount of fear that is still being installed by the likes of BBC and SKY to name a few.

Potential benefits...
(1) Having control over laws and implementation.
(2) Having control over taxation (VAT etc)
(3) Ability to 'import' labour that will be of benefit to the UK.
(4) Fewer trade barriers with the rest of the world.
(5) Economic growth that is not linked to the debts of the EU.

Its not quite got going this thread has it.

Perhaps it is a lack of material - can we flesh out some of the benefits above?

1) which laws shall we now change - top 3?
2) what shall we do - higher or lower, and what will be the benefit?
3) which labour is it that we can't import now?
4) which trade barriers shall we reduce - top 3?
5) debts of the EU? do you mean EU nations? which ones are holding us back and how?

We can add another

6) cheaper fish and chips
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien...


Edited by ///ajd on Thursday 30th March 20:40
But the point is this, we, the UK, will decide upon these issues once we have left the eu. That is the point of Brexit.
But can you flesh it out with some examples?

If you can't it comes across as you're just parroting some irrelevant "bendy banana" anti EU drivel from the Express.

I'm sure that is not the case - come on, this is the brexit benefit thread - lets see the specific pluses rolled out so we can look forward to them.
Yes, the thread title is the "Benefits" of Brexit, not the "point" of Brexit!

KrissKross

2,182 posts

102 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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johnxjsc1985 said:
KrissKross said:
Many laws generally don't help improve business, they only hinder. You "cant do that" is not a way to help a business?
He should go on board a small fishing vessel as they discard healthy fish because the fish didn't realise that that particular net had reached its quota of their species.
Dont be pedantic. Of course there need to be rules.

The question was do they improve or help business, not fish.

KrissKross

2,182 posts

102 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
90% of immigrants unskilled. rofl

Where did you get the figure from?
Sorry should it be higher than that.

I employ them... Skills can be defined in many ways.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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KrissKross said:
jjlynn27 said:
90% of immigrants unskilled. rofl

Where did you get the figure from?
Sorry should it be higher than that.

I employ them... Skills can be defined in many ways.
You can't possibly be that stupid?

You are judging immigrants overall by few that you employ?


KrissKross

2,182 posts

102 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
You can't possibly be that stupid?

You are judging immigrants overall by few that you employ?
I don't employ a few.

Immigrants, ie nurses, lets take that example.

Importing immigrants to look after sick immigrants, because then we need... more immigrants. Clever pattern, or stupid?

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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KrissKross said:
///ajd said:
laws you would change now to improve your business conditions.
Many laws generally don't help improve business, they only hinder. You "cant do that" is not a way to help a business?
OK, OK

but it was said "we can change the ones from the EU"

which ones?

top 3?

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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KrissKross said:
jjlynn27 said:
You can't possibly be that stupid?

You are judging immigrants overall by few that you employ?
I don't employ a few.

Immigrants, ie nurses, lets take that example.

Importing immigrants to look after sick immigrants, because then we need... more immigrants. Clever pattern, or stupid?
As everything that you write, patently stupid. I'm sure that you employ thousands of immigrants and are a very successful businessman, so successful that you want to join forces with your neighbours to save on electricity.


KrissKross

2,182 posts

102 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
KrissKross said:
jjlynn27 said:
You can't possibly be that stupid?

You are judging immigrants overall by few that you employ?
I don't employ a few.

Immigrants, ie nurses, lets take that example.

Importing immigrants to look after sick immigrants, because then we need... more immigrants. Clever pattern, or stupid?
As everything that you write, patently stupid. I'm sure that you employ thousands of immigrants and are a very successful businessman, so successful that you want to join forces with your neighbours to save on electricity.
Idiot, stupid, idiot, anything else clever boy, searching and clutching at straws. the question about energy was one that we discussed, I asked, my fuel bills are almost £1k per month as are our neighbours, not worth discussing? Successful people can be tight arses you know, its generally why they are wealthy sometimes.

Never said I employed specific number of immigrants, you keep doing that.

You don't have to reply to every persons comments, do you realise that?


KrissKross

2,182 posts

102 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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///ajd said:
OK, OK

but it was said "we can change the ones from the EU"

which ones?

top 3?
Keep the sensible ones, bin the rubbish ones, simple no?

Care to answer other peoples questions?

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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KrissKross said:
jjlynn27 said:
KrissKross said:
jjlynn27 said:
You can't possibly be that stupid?

You are judging immigrants overall by few that you employ?
I don't employ a few.

Immigrants, ie nurses, lets take that example.

Importing immigrants to look after sick immigrants, because then we need... more immigrants. Clever pattern, or stupid?
As everything that you write, patently stupid. I'm sure that you employ thousands of immigrants and are a very successful businessman, so successful that you want to join forces with your neighbours to save on electricity.
Idiot, stupid, idiot, anything else clever boy, searching and clutching at straws. the question about energy was one that we discussed, I asked, my fuel bills are almost £1k per month as are our neighbours, not worth discussing? Successful people can be tight arses you know, its generally why they are wealthy sometimes.

Never said I employed specific number of immigrants, you keep doing that.

You don't have to reply to every persons comments, do you realise that?
I do what entertains me. I find Walter Mitty stories very entertaining. Claiming that 90% of immigrants are unskilled was idiotic. Adding that that was based on 'your employees' even more so.


PH XKR

Original Poster:

1,761 posts

103 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Honda has so.many polish only speaking employees that they are mostly only hiring managers/shift area leads that can speak polish and english

KrissKross

2,182 posts

102 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
I do what entertains me.
I imagine you sitting naked with a donut in your hand.

KrissKross

2,182 posts

102 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Claiming that 90% of immigrants are unskilled was idiotic.
The majority of any population are unskilled.