Stanstead Closed by Deportation Flight Protesters

Stanstead Closed by Deportation Flight Protesters

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Hayek

8,969 posts

209 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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lemmingjames said:
Is it me or do nearly all the SJW's appear to be white?
Also feminine.

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Hayek said:
lemmingjames said:
Is it me or do nearly all the SJW's appear to be white?
Also feminine.
Twelve of the defendants' given addresses are in north London, Burtonshaw's is in Brighton, Potts's is in Bristol and McGahan's is in Reading.

IanH755

1,862 posts

121 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Hayek said:
lemmingjames said:
Is it me or do nearly all the SJW's appear to be white?
Also feminine.
and Middle Class.

Effectively the "Oh won't someone think of the children" brigade and, since the advent of Social Media, they've found an echo chamber for their views and can now organise themselves for events like this better than ever so expect more daft stuff like this from these buffoons.

Hereward

4,191 posts

231 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Arrogant, conceited, self-absorbed morons. In another country a perimeter breach like that would have been met with machine gun fire.

Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Hereward said:
In another country a perimeter breach like that would have been met with machine gun fire.
Which other country? The likely candidates aren't really the ones that you'd like to lump Britain in with, surely?

Hereward said:
Arrogant, conceited, self-absorbed morons.
That bit, at least, is true.

BrassMan

1,484 posts

190 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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IanH755 said:
Hayek said:
lemmingjames said:
Is it me or do nearly all the SJW's appear to be white?
Also feminine.
and Middle Class.
Well, the UK is ~7/8 white so...

Starfighter

4,930 posts

179 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Shirley the Terrorism Act and the “endangering life” elements of this are a little heavy handed? All I can see reported is that they cut the wire and surrounded an aircraft. It is not like they tampered with the aircraft or ran on to the runway. I am all for arrest and prosecution but this looks to be disproportionate.

nellystew

163 posts

155 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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BlackLabel said:


Edited by BlackLabel on Monday 10th December 15:12
POWER TO THE PEEE-POLLLL

untakenname

4,970 posts

193 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Refreshing to see the publics reaction to this mp's tweet
https://twitter.com/CarolineLucas/status/107211877...

irocfan

40,545 posts

191 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Escapegoat said:
Which other country? The likely candidates aren't really the ones that you'd like to lump Britain in with, surely?
I suspect that in Greece, the USA, Turkey, Eastern Europe they'd have been given a good kicking at the very least - guns pointed and used qould be quite a good possibility too

steve-5snwi

8,676 posts

94 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Would letting the plane take off with them being strapped to the landing gear be harsh ?

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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In this version of the story.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6480407/P...

DailyMail said:
Raj Chada, partner from Hodge Jones & Allen who represented all 15 of the defendants, said: 'We are deeply disappointed by today's verdicts.

'In our view it is inconceivable that our clients were charged under counter-terrorism legislation for what was a just protest against deporting asylum seekers.'
Really Raj? You found it inconceivable that they could be charged with a terrorism offence for cutting a big hole in an airport perimeter fence? There are big signs all along these airport perimeters.

Ah well, his job should be easier in future, as it will now be extremely conceivable that the authorities might use counter-terrorism legislation if someone else tries to cut their way into an airport.


hutchst

3,706 posts

97 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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untakenname said:
Refreshing to see the publics reaction to this mp's tweet
https://twitter.com/CarolineLucas/status/107211877...
It took all of 6 replies for Naheem to resort to Godwin.

Fat Fairy

503 posts

187 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Starfighter said:
Shirley the Terrorism Act and the “endangering life” elements of this are a little heavy handed? All I can see reported is that they cut the wire and surrounded an aircraft. It is not like they tampered with the aircraft or ran on to the runway. I am all for arrest and prosecution but this looks to be disproportionate.
I have had to deal with the aftermath of such 'protests' before. How do you know where they have been? What they have touched? what they have intentionally or unwittingly damaged?

Over the years I have ordered the replacement of Pitot Probes with corrosion, or with a small dent in the input lip. Minimal damage, surely? Yet the recent Lion Air crash has brought such sensors into the limelight. Or how about FOD on the runway? A strip of metal was instrumental in the Air France Concorde crash.

If they have damaged an aircraft, you are aware I assume, that in the history of aviation, there are no aircraft 'left up there for repairs'. All aircraft come back down. Some, sadly, far quicker than intended.

FF

peterperkins

3,152 posts

243 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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In a tiny minority of genuine cases we might have some sympathy and empathy for the individuals being sent back. But....

Not if we were sat at the airport waiting for our flight connection etc, you can bet we would all be foaming at the mouth with outrage.

Let's hope they divide the knock on cost of the delays, disrupted flights, compensation, security response etc between them in fines.

Earthdweller

13,596 posts

127 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Ironic isn’t it

Illegal immigrant rapist being deported and it’s all white middle class women in outrage

Strange world

Eric Mc

122,055 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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As is their right in a free country.

Starfighter

4,930 posts

179 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Fat Fairy said:
Starfighter said:
Shirley the Terrorism Act and the “endangering life” elements of this are a little heavy handed? All I can see reported is that they cut the wire and surrounded an aircraft. It is not like they tampered with the aircraft or ran on to the runway. I am all for arrest and prosecution but this looks to be disproportionate.
I have had to deal with the aftermath of such 'protests' before. How do you know where they have been? What they have touched? what they have intentionally or unwittingly damaged?

Over the years I have ordered the replacement of Pitot Probes with corrosion, or with a small dent in the input lip. Minimal damage, surely? Yet the recent Lion Air crash has brought such sensors into the limelight. Or how about FOD on the runway? A strip of metal was instrumental in the Air France Concorde crash.

If they have damaged an aircraft, you are aware I assume, that in the history of aviation, there are no aircraft 'left up there for repairs'. All aircraft come back down. Some, sadly, far quicker than intended.

FF
My job is connected to the aviation industry as a parts maker, am am aware of the delicate nature of parts and FOD risks.

As I said, I have no problems with prosecuting these people, I question the nature of the prosecution under “terrorism” legislation. This is. It the type of case it was intended for.

Criminal trespass, criminal damage, possession of a blades article (cutters) were all option and likely much easier to prove.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

159 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Starfighter said:
I question the nature of the prosecution under “terrorism” legislation.
Presumably the judge thought it was OK as he found them guilty of the charges.

Eric Mc

122,055 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th December 2018
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Rovinghawk said:
Starfighter said:
I question the nature of the prosecution under “terrorism” legislation.
Presumably the judge thought it was OK as he found them guilty of the charges.
Judges don't always get things right - as we all know.