Staffie owner mauled to death by own dog during interview?
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s3fella said:
keirik said:
I assume Sky kept filming
Kay Burley...Sadness in his eyes.... (as they dragged him off owner's throat!Not Sky. It was Beeb who were filming.
Sky 'sources' say that a TV crew was in the house...
A 'BBC spokesperson' said they are aware of the incident...
C0ffin D0dger said:
I know they'll be loads of Staffy owners along soon saying what great dogs they are and that this dog was badly treated / handled etc.
But I still don't think they're great pets. Any dog that can do that to it's owner, a member of their family or some other unlucky person in the wrong place, shouldn't be kept as pets. I know all dogs are capable of this but you don't hear so many stories of people being mauled by their labrador let alone a chihuahua or something
They can be great pets,i have had my staffy a few years and as a rescue dog that was used in his early life as a fight dog he has with training become a wonderful family pet.Ive had Doberman`s,Alsatians and Jack Russells that have been far more unpredictable.But I still don't think they're great pets. Any dog that can do that to it's owner, a member of their family or some other unlucky person in the wrong place, shouldn't be kept as pets. I know all dogs are capable of this but you don't hear so many stories of people being mauled by their labrador let alone a chihuahua or something
Infact ive been bitten a few times by Alsatians/German shepherds while training..
BlackLabel said:
I can understand why folks say you shouldn't blame the breed but surely you can blame this particular dog for this attack. Perhaps others were to blame too but the dog has to share some of the blame imo.
What if dead guy had been poking him with a stick 10 hours a day? "Make him tuff innit"Have to admit that when I was a kid at school one of my friends parents used to breed them. And I heard the name, and thought the worst (even at ~10 years old) But I've met many, many Staffs over the years. Most of them are just boisterous, harmless, idiots.
Also if raised properly astonishingly good with kids. Even the Kennel club says so.
i am having trouble understanding how a staffie managed to do this to a grown adult. would be interested to see pics of this "staffie" .
there are a lot of dogs being labeled staffies these days due to the dangerous dogs legislation that are not staffie's at all,but various bull breed crosses.
there are a lot of dogs being labeled staffies these days due to the dangerous dogs legislation that are not staffie's at all,but various bull breed crosses.
wc98 said:
i am having trouble understanding how a staffie managed to do this to a grown adult. would be interested to see pics of this "staffie" .
there are a lot of dogs being labeled staffies these days due to the dangerous dogs legislation that are not staffie's at all,but various bull breed crosses.
Seems like he bled out from the throat. I'm sure from a certain size upwards a dog getting a good bite on your throat is going to be serious.there are a lot of dogs being labeled staffies these days due to the dangerous dogs legislation that are not staffie's at all,but various bull breed crosses.
MrBrightSi said:
wc98 said:
i am having trouble understanding how a staffie managed to do this to a grown adult. would be interested to see pics of this "staffie" .
there are a lot of dogs being labeled staffies these days due to the dangerous dogs legislation that are not staffie's at all,but various bull breed crosses.
Seems like he bled out from the throat. I'm sure from a certain size upwards a dog getting a good bite on your throat is going to be serious.there are a lot of dogs being labeled staffies these days due to the dangerous dogs legislation that are not staffie's at all,but various bull breed crosses.
He was also extemely fit and, at the appropriate times, would relish the occasional bit of rough and tumble with people he knew well, but especially me. I was with him in the garden one day and he was swooping around, lunging at me and I was fending him off - a bit like sparring - when he deliberately and extremely carefully jumped and put his jaws over my throat. The touch was barely perceptible and, it prompted a sort of pause or time-out in the game. He never did it again, but he gave me a look, with a big grin on his panting face as if to say "I'm just playing with you, but this is what I could do".
Never underestimate how fast, powerful and effective a predator a dog can be. Any do that can jump to, or get to throat level is theoretically and potentially lethal to a human - you only have to look at how wild dogs kill deer to see how and why.
C0ffin D0dger said:
I know they'll be loads of Staffy owners along soon saying what great dogs they are and that this dog was badly treated / handled etc.
But I still don't think they're great pets. Any dog that can do that to it's owner, a member of their family or some other unlucky person in the wrong place, shouldn't be kept as pets. I know all dogs are capable of this but you don't hear so many stories of people being mauled by their labrador let alone a chihuahua or something
Someone my old man was in business with was mauled by his golden retriever, severed all of the tendons in his right hand and did a lot of damage, at one point they thought he'd actually lose his hand.But I still don't think they're great pets. Any dog that can do that to it's owner, a member of their family or some other unlucky person in the wrong place, shouldn't be kept as pets. I know all dogs are capable of this but you don't hear so many stories of people being mauled by their labrador let alone a chihuahua or something
He used to think it was funny to throw the dog biscuits then every now and again a jalapeno mixed in (he was an ahole obviously). Guess what he was doing when the dog went bonkers and tried to rip his arm off?
One of my friends ex girlfriends had three different breeds of dog over the years; a lab, a dalmation and a schnauzer, all of them had the same personality and would growl and bare their teeth at me. Her Dad being an ahole was the common denominator, not the dog.
Edited by The Wookie on Thursday 30th March 09:12
Staffies are well liked dogs. My girlfriends mother just took on another staff and whenever we take it for a walk there are numerous people commenting on how cute she is. My gf has 6 dogs and the only one that's ever done anything is the french bulldog. They are little sts. The staffs.... lick? They're just interested in food to be honest. If you have food they're your best mate, if not, they'll come for a belly rub and that's about it. They are all female and none are 'well built'.
With the odd exception where the dog's suffering from some awful neurological disease or similar, the common factor in all these cases is the human.
Doubt we'll ever get to know what was done to the dog to make it so dangerous.
I'm sorry the bloke is dead and I'm sorry that the dog soon will be too.
Dogs all start out just dogs, people trying to use dogs as weapons are dangerous.
Doubt we'll ever get to know what was done to the dog to make it so dangerous.
I'm sorry the bloke is dead and I'm sorry that the dog soon will be too.
Dogs all start out just dogs, people trying to use dogs as weapons are dangerous.
FlyingMeeces said:
With the odd exception where the dog's suffering from some awful neurological disease or similar, the common factor in all these cases is the human.
Doubt we'll ever get to know what was done to the dog to make it so dangerous.
I'm sorry the bloke is dead and I'm sorry that the dog soon will be too.
Dogs all start out just dogs, people trying to use dogs as weapons are dangerous.
^Agree 100%.Doubt we'll ever get to know what was done to the dog to make it so dangerous.
I'm sorry the bloke is dead and I'm sorry that the dog soon will be too.
Dogs all start out just dogs, people trying to use dogs as weapons are dangerous.
Digga said:
MrBrightSi said:
wc98 said:
i am having trouble understanding how a staffie managed to do this to a grown adult. would be interested to see pics of this "staffie" .
there are a lot of dogs being labeled staffies these days due to the dangerous dogs legislation that are not staffie's at all,but various bull breed crosses.
Seems like he bled out from the throat. I'm sure from a certain size upwards a dog getting a good bite on your throat is going to be serious.there are a lot of dogs being labeled staffies these days due to the dangerous dogs legislation that are not staffie's at all,but various bull breed crosses.
He was also extemely fit and, at the appropriate times, would relish the occasional bit of rough and tumble with people he knew well, but especially me. I was with him in the garden one day and he was swooping around, lunging at me and I was fending him off - a bit like sparring - when he deliberately and extremely carefully jumped and put his jaws over my throat. The touch was barely perceptible and, it prompted a sort of pause or time-out in the game. He never did it again, but he gave me a look, with a big grin on his panting face as if to say "I'm just playing with you, but this is what I could do".
Never underestimate how fast, powerful and effective a predator a dog can be. Any do that can jump to, or get to throat level is theoretically and potentially lethal to a human - you only have to look at how wild dogs kill deer to see how and why.
the circumstances this bloke was living in sound like a recipe for disaster for any dog .class a drug taking,parties,shouting and fighting going on regularly.as noted above the dog has likely become a product of its environment ,but i still have my doubts as to it being a true staffie .i think any pictures would show a much larger cross breed though i accept i may well be wrong.
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