CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 14)
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g4ry13 said:
soofsayer said:
At last the figures are revealed:
Covid: Up to one in four admitted to hospital for other reasons
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58025045
Artificially inflated death counts. Artificially inflated hospitalisation counts.Covid: Up to one in four admitted to hospital for other reasons
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58025045
One may start to consider that there's an incentive in fudging these numbers.
The rich have made millions from COVID, the little people have been scared into compliance. People live under the exact amount of tyranny they will tolerate and by keeping almost 60 million people scared s
tless this government has found the perfect way to bring in digital ID cards.Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong. Pure and simple.
Edited by SCEtoAUX on Friday 30th July 18:07
SCEtoAUX said:
They've been lying from day one (three weeks to flatten the curve), and they are lying to this day.
The rich have made millions from COVID, the little people have been scared into compliance. People live under the exact amount of tyranny they will tolerate and by keeping almost 60 million people scared stless this government has found the perfect way to bring in digital ID cards.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong. Pure and simple.
Yup. And they are not done with us yet. The kids are to be vaccinated next, plus mask mandates and lockdowns before Christmas.The rich have made millions from COVID, the little people have been scared into compliance. People live under the exact amount of tyranny they will tolerate and by keeping almost 60 million people scared s
tless this government has found the perfect way to bring in digital ID cards.Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong. Pure and simple.
SCEtoAUX said:
They've been lying from day one (three weeks to flatten the curve), and they are lying to this day.
The rich have made millions from COVID, the little people have been scared into compliance. People live under the exact amount of tyranny they will tolerate and by keeping almost 60 million people scared stless this government has found the perfect way to bring in digital ID cards.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong. Pure and simple.
This all over. The rich have made millions from COVID, the little people have been scared into compliance. People live under the exact amount of tyranny they will tolerate and by keeping almost 60 million people scared s
tless this government has found the perfect way to bring in digital ID cards.Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong. Pure and simple.
Edited by SCEtoAUX on Friday 30th July 18:07
Berate me all you want but I believe it's also a perfect training exercise to bring in the "green" agenda - limiting air travel, pollution/clean air lockdowns etc.
So easy to see if you connect some dots.
Whats this? Cases were falling, but now apparently they were going up?
politicshome said:
“While our findings for England may seem to contradict recent daily test and trace figures, it’s important to understand that the ONS survey tests a large randomised sample of the population regardless of whether they have symptoms,” the ONS said in its analysis.
“This and other factors may lie behind the apparent discrepancies"
“This and other factors may lie behind the apparent discrepancies"
George Orwell said:
'The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command
Channel 4 news ramping up the fear porn for unvaccinated pregnant women - 171 hospitalised covid patients in the last 3 months!
They didn’t say out of how many in total but with 600,000+ babies born each year it doesn’t seem a lot.
They’ve come for the kids and now they’re going for the unborn ones.
They didn’t say out of how many in total but with 600,000+ babies born each year it doesn’t seem a lot.
They’ve come for the kids and now they’re going for the unborn ones.
cliffe_mafia said:
Channel 4 news ramping up the fear porn for unvaccinated pregnant women - 171 hospitalised covid patients in the last 3 months!
They didn’t say out of how many in total but with 600,000+ babies born each year it doesn’t seem a lot.
They’ve come for the kids and now they’re going for the unborn ones.
At least one of those is hospitalised due to ongoing concerns regarding the baby- but the mother tested positive (despite just hay fever like symptoms). They didn’t say out of how many in total but with 600,000+ babies born each year it doesn’t seem a lot.
They’ve come for the kids and now they’re going for the unborn ones.
cliffe_mafia said:
Channel 4 news ramping up the fear porn for unvaccinated pregnant women - 171 hospitalised covid patients in the last 3 months!
They didn’t say out of how many in total but with 600,000+ babies born each year it doesn’t seem a lot.
They’ve come for the kids and now they’re going for the unborn ones.
Another one for the George Orwell treatment, I've just had the head midwife on my TV telling me in no uncertain terms that "the advice to pregnant women is - and always has been - to get jabbed as soon as your age bracket is called.They didn’t say out of how many in total but with 600,000+ babies born each year it doesn’t seem a lot.
They’ve come for the kids and now they’re going for the unborn ones.
Can we fact check this please??
johnboy1975 said:
Another one for the George Orwell treatment, I've just had the head midwife on my TV telling me in no uncertain terms that "the advice to pregnant women is - and always has been - to get jabbed as soon as your age bracket is called.
Can we fact check this please??
BullsCan we fact check this please??
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https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/priorit...
johnboy1975 said:
Another one for the George Orwell treatment, I've just had the head midwife on my TV telling me in no uncertain terms that "the advice to pregnant women is - and always has been - to get jabbed as soon as your age bracket is called.
Can we fact check this please??
Now i’m no fancy big city chickenlawyer but i seem to recall that this has definitely NOT always been the advice for pregnant women. Can we fact check this please??
BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:
At least one of those is hospitalised due to ongoing concerns regarding the baby- but the mother tested positive (despite just hay fever like symptoms).
I really hope the little one is ok.I just find it infuriating - why are the media not even giving half the story? I can’t be the only one watching and wondering wtf happened to the babies? Were they all ok? But no, they just moved onto the next stat about delta variants.
grumbledoak said:
johnboy1975 said:
Another one for the George Orwell treatment, I've just had the head midwife on my TV telling me in no uncertain terms that "the advice to pregnant women is - and always has been - to get jabbed as soon as your age bracket is called.
Can we fact check this please??
BullsCan we fact check this please??
thttps://www.gov.uk/government/publications/priorit...
https://www.rcog.org.uk/en/guidelines-research-ser...
(First link, pdf)
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Pregnant women to consider the vaccine if they are in a high prevalence area.
Reads to me that it wasn't particularly recommended.
I have no issue with changing data meaning they update their advice, but they just blatantly lie and claim that was what they said all along.
They are airbrushing history (get your screen grabs in quick RCON have already updated...) and condemning innocent pregnant women who haven't jabbed up (as per the advice) to be labelled antivaxxers
Edit: And using this fact disingenuously to say the vast majority of infections in pregnant women are amongst the unvaccinated. Well they bloody well would, if they had been following the advice not to get jabbed
And fwiw, I think they are calling it "definately and completely" safe a bit early. Not claiming it would be on the same lines as Thalidomide, but I'm sure they put out reassuring press statements on that originally
Edited by johnboy1975 on Friday 30th July 19:34
Edited by johnboy1975 on Friday 30th July 19:37
johnboy1975 said:
Another one for the George Orwell treatment, I've just had the head midwife on my TV telling me in no uncertain terms that "the advice to pregnant women is - and always has been - to get jabbed as soon as your age bracket is called.
Can we fact check this please??
The wife's sister gave birth around 3 months ago, the advice all through pregnancy from her doctor was to wait until after giving birth for the vaccine. She had her first jab a couple of weeks ago, and got AZ interestingly enough. Judging by the JCVI guidance given also, this smells like absolute pangolin sCan we fact check this please??
t from C4, as usual. Let me guess, one of Deepti or Pagel were on as well? bodhi said:
Just heard a very real example of some of the potential issues with vaccine passports. My brother in law is Norwegian, and didn't waste any time in signing up for his vaccine so he could go home to see his family. He was given the AZ jab, however found out about a month ago that his first does was one of those that was manufactured in India, which Norway do not recognise for entry.
So he's done everything asked of him, had no choice in which batch he recieved, and as a result is spitting feathers, as you can imagine. Last I spoke to him he was going to see if he could get a third dose of AZ, made in the UK this time so he could travel.
Seems an almighty clusterfk for those affected in all honesty.
I’m currently living at my house in Southern Ireland .. due to still being registered with the nhs at my U.K. address I received the vaccine in enniskillen six miles over the border So he's done everything asked of him, had no choice in which batch he recieved, and as a result is spitting feathers, as you can imagine. Last I spoke to him he was going to see if he could get a third dose of AZ, made in the UK this time so he could travel.
Seems an almighty clusterf
k for those affected in all honesty. Now I find that despite being fully vaccinated with the same vaccine administered in the ROI ( Pfizer) and having proof of vaccination.. it is not accepted in the ROI
Last week indoor hospitality opened.. however I cannot go into a pub or restaurant and drink/dine
My vaccine and proof of it isn’t good enough apparently… now if I’d only had the vaccine 6 miles further south
Likewise it’s not accepted for travel to/from the ROI so I can’t fly from Dublin to the GB/Spain etc yet if I drive to Belfast I can, then just drive over the open border
Bizarre situation
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