Elon Musk $41B offer for Twitter

Elon Musk $41B offer for Twitter

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Byker28i

59,923 posts

217 months

Friday 29th March
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Another view on the lawsuit Musk lost against CCDH who "highlight what a cesspool X has become under his ownership, "

"Elon styles himself as championing free speech. That’s only true if you define 'free speech' to mean 'allowing the right wing to take over your platform & turn it into a hellhole.' Actual free speech, however, means not suing orgs for doing reporting."

https://www.publicnotice.co/p/elon-musk-ccdh-lawsu...

Edited by Byker28i on Friday 29th March 06:53

RichTT

3,071 posts

171 months

Saturday 30th March
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Young men are tired of being sht on by society and are rejecting left wing ideological positions globally. X traffic is predominately young men it seems so I'm not surprised by the articles left wing wibble and crying over free speech being things they consider 'toxic'.







Edited by RichTT on Saturday 30th March 05:49

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Saturday 30th March
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RichTT said:
Young men are tired of being sht on by society and are rejecting left wing ideological positions globally. X traffic is predominately young men it seems so I'm not surprised by the articles left wing wibble and crying over free speech being things they consider 'toxic'.







Edited by RichTT on Saturday 30th March 05:49
Ohh yeah. The famously oppressed ‘young men’ laugh

RichTT

3,071 posts

171 months

Saturday 30th March
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p1stonhead said:
Ohh yeah. The famously oppressed ‘young men’ laugh
The operative word there is young.

Men and male Minorities are statistically the most marginalized and disadvantaged people in society. Constantly legislated against and pushed to the bottom of the pile. Failed entirely by the very programs that were supposed to help everyone. We are letting an entire generation of young men become angry and disenfranchised with the world they are growing up in.

https://equi-law.uk/ten-male-disadvantages/

https://www.wokefather.com/egalitarianism/men-not-...

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Saturday 30th March
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RichTT said:
p1stonhead said:
Ohh yeah. The famously oppressed ‘young men’ laugh
The operative word there is young.

Men and male Minorities are statistically the most marginalized and disadvantaged people in society. Constantly legislated against and pushed to the bottom of the pile. Failed entirely by the very programs that were supposed to help everyone. We are letting an entire generation of young men become angry and disenfranchised with the world they are growing up in.

https://equi-law.uk/ten-male-disadvantages/

https://www.wokefather.com/egalitarianism/men-not-...
‘Woke father.com’

rofl

I can’t imagine anything more pathetic than making that website. Absurd levels of incel energy

RichTT

3,071 posts

171 months

Saturday 30th March
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p1stonhead said:
‘Woke father.com’

rofl

I can’t imagine anything more pathetic than making that website. Absurd levels of incel energy
Careful, your arrogant and vainglorious superiority complex is showing again.

Al Gorithum

3,718 posts

208 months

Saturday 30th March
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The Rotrex Kid

30,312 posts

160 months

Saturday 30th March
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Always giving hehe

hidetheelephants

24,390 posts

193 months

Saturday 30th March
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Real galaxy brain stuff.

dobbo_

14,380 posts

248 months

Saturday 30th March
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RichTT said:
Careful, your arrogant and vainglorious superiority complex is showing again.
You might stop to consider - what is the pathway to this swing to the right in young men?

Might it be that easily manipulated young men are drawn towards the idea of them being victims to explain all their problems? And that social media platforms and personalities prey on that concept? and that graphs like yours are the result?


RichTT

3,071 posts

171 months

Sunday 31st March
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dobbo_ said:
You might stop to consider - what is the pathway to this swing to the right in young men?

Might it be that easily manipulated young men are drawn towards the idea of them being victims to explain all their problems? And that social media platforms and personalities prey on that concept? and that graphs like yours are the result?
Why are young men more easily manipulatable than young women in your view? Does the corollary hold?

Why does the same viewpoint not hold true for the women that are now swing invariably to the hard left, and consume more social media content. Is it because the men are swinging towards conservative / Christian / traditional family values and rejecting certain notions that keep getting pushed on us by the establishment to their detriment? Ergo, "toxic".

"female users between 16 and 24 years of age spend an average of two hours and 59 minutes on social media every day. In comparison, their male counterparts spend two hours and 32 minutes—27 minutes less."

https://datareportal.com/reports/digital-2024-glob...



Electro1980

8,299 posts

139 months

Sunday 31st March
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dobbo_ said:
You might stop to consider - what is the pathway to this swing to the right in young men?

Might it be that easily manipulated young men are drawn towards the idea of them being victims to explain all their problems? And that social media platforms and personalities prey on that concept? and that graphs like yours are the result?
Young men are consistently seeing themselves being criticised and attacked in the media as dangerous, incapable and the route of societies ills. They are being drawn in by people offering them something else other than constant criticism for things they are not responsible for, and at the same time being failed in many areas, physical and mental health, education, employment opportunities. Of course when someone comes along and gives them a more positive message they are drawn to it. Exactly the same way cults and terror groups have always recruited.

Yes, stopping the supply side is part of it, but stopping the demand side is also important.

EddieSteadyGo

11,949 posts

203 months

Sunday 31st March
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Electro1980 said:
dobbo_ said:
You might stop to consider - what is the pathway to this swing to the right in young men?

Might it be that easily manipulated young men are drawn towards the idea of them being victims to explain all their problems? And that social media platforms and personalities prey on that concept? and that graphs like yours are the result?
Young men are consistently seeing themselves being criticised and attacked in the media as dangerous, incapable and the route of societies ills. They are being drawn in by people offering them something else other than constant criticism for things they are not responsible for, and at the same time being failed in many areas, physical and mental health, education, employment opportunities. Of course when someone comes along and gives them a more positive message they are drawn to it. Exactly the same way cults and terror groups have always recruited.

Yes, stopping the supply side is part of it, but stopping the demand side is also important.
I'd be very careful reading anything into those charts. I've not reviewed the underlying methodology, but even in the explanation at the base of infographic it seems the US data is based on "stated ideology", whereas the other countries are based on "support for liberal or conservative parties".

There has been a huge cultural liberalisation across the political spectrum over the last 40 years, and a blurring of the distinction between political "Conservatives" and political liberals. For example, I would see myself as a liberal from a social perspective and a conservative in terms of fiscal policies. Many will have a similar dilemma with over-simplistic categorisation.

I suspect those charts were produced as "evidence" to support some underlying thesis the journalist wanted to write about. But I think they should be treated with some caution.

RichTT

3,071 posts

171 months

Sunday 31st March
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EddieSteadyGo said:
I suspect those charts were produced as "evidence" to support some underlying thesis the journalist wanted to write about. But I think they should be treated with some caution.
https://www.ft.com/content/29fd9b5c-2f35-41bf-9d4c-994db4e12998 - take from the FT article what you will.

Interesting thread here: https://x.com/Andercot/status/1774175317294473539?...

TLDR: "The issue is that the advertising revenue model fundamentally drives a race to the bottom in hacking dopamine, while favoring content that can be digestible to the largest number of people. Clickbait for the lowest common denominator.

The McKinsey-ification of Industry and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human species. A complete Balkanization of civil society"

edit: For the record, I too was liberal. Live and let live. But the more I see of the liberal / socialist left, the more I realise what an absolute disaster we are running towards at full pelt. The Overton window has shifted so far that I am politically homeless. It is a battle between collectivists (both left and right) and individualists. The left are now the statists and walking us towards nineteen eighty four.

Edited by RichTT on Sunday 31st March 09:15

CoolHands

18,653 posts

195 months

Sunday 31st March
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Al Gorithum said:
I’m not on twitter but surely there are loads of accounts with high subscribers? Although what is a subscriber is it different from follower?

RichTT

3,071 posts

171 months

Sunday 31st March
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Yeah, it's additional and per account. You can pay an extra few dollars to get extra content. Like patreon.

CoolHands

18,653 posts

195 months

Sunday 31st March
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Oh god, no wonder noones doing it.

EddieSteadyGo

11,949 posts

203 months

Sunday 31st March
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RichTT said:
Yeah, it's additional and per account. You can pay an extra few dollars to get extra content. Like patreon.
That's what the person who wants to criticise it is claiming. Much more likely to be related to the number of paid 'blue ticks' who follow a particular person.

RichTT

3,071 posts

171 months

Sunday 31st March
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EddieSteadyGo said:
That's what the person who wants to criticise it is claiming. Much more likely to be related to the number of paid 'blue ticks' who follow a particular person.
Possibly, depends if they are conflating subscriber/follower

EddieSteadyGo

11,949 posts

203 months

Sunday 31st March
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RichTT said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
That's what the person who wants to criticise it is claiming. Much more likely to be related to the number of paid 'blue ticks' who follow a particular person.
Possibly, depends if they are conflating subscriber/follower
Pretty sure Musk calls "verified subscribers" those who pay for a blue tick. Hence "verified subscriber followers" would be how many of those people follow a given account.

Oliver Alexander knows that of course, but he prefers to misrepresent it so he can get a few more "likes".