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durbster

10,291 posts

223 months

Monday 1st April
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RichTT said:
I'm curious which of the main stream political parties in the UK feel like home to you?

Because all I can see is either a bunch of inept thieves, economic illiterates, genderwang proponents, climate loonies, or in my case in Scotland, the SNP, who are set on re-creating Nineteen Eighty Four.
Do you ever consider that this might be because you are getting your views from sources called things like wokefather.com?

barryrs

4,394 posts

224 months

Monday 1st April
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durbster said:
RichTT said:
I'm curious which of the main stream political parties in the UK feel like home to you?

Because all I can see is either a bunch of inept thieves, economic illiterates, genderwang proponents, climate loonies, or in my case in Scotland, the SNP, who are set on re-creating Nineteen Eighty Four.
Do you ever consider that this might be because you are getting your views from sources called things like wokefather.com?
But you have to go to ALL news sources in order to form a BALANCED point of view! rotate

RichTT

3,089 posts

172 months

Monday 1st April
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durbster said:
Do you ever consider that this might be because you are getting your views from sources called things like wokefather.com?
I used the website because it had statistics to make a point. I've never visited it before or after that post. I'm aware of the discourse and the statistics because I'm aware of what's going on. I'm capable of forming an opinion based on data, rather than media interpretation of data.

Do you get all your views from the Guardian?

barryrs said:
But you have to go to ALL news sources in order to form a BALANCED point of view! rotate
Whilst I appreciate the sarcasm (highest form of wit after all), it also makes you sound condescending and arrogant. Which is basically what most of the left sounds like anyway, so I guess, par for the course?

"a spectatorial, disgusted, mocking Left will give rise to a populist demagogue". - Richard Rorty

Edited by RichTT on Monday 1st April 15:08

tangerine_sedge

4,828 posts

219 months

Monday 1st April
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RichTT said:
"a spectatorial, disgusted, mocking Left will give rise to a populist demagogue". - Richard Rorty
It's always the lefts fault that racists vote for populist dog-whistling politicians... /sarcasm

mko9

2,404 posts

213 months

Monday 1st April
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durbster said:
RichTT said:
I'm curious which of the main stream political parties in the UK feel like home to you?

Because all I can see is either a bunch of inept thieves, economic illiterates, genderwang proponents, climate loonies, or in my case in Scotland, the SNP, who are set on re-creating Nineteen Eighty Four.
Do you ever consider that this might be because you are getting your views from sources called things like wokefather.com?
Obviously there could never be any correct information of any kind on that webpage, you can just tell from the site name. You don't even have to go look and see the site. Duh!!

RichTT

3,089 posts

172 months

Monday 1st April
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tangerine_sedge said:
RichTT said:
"a spectatorial, disgusted, mocking Left will give rise to a populist demagogue". - Richard Rorty
It's always the lefts fault that racists vote for populist dog-whistling politicians... /sarcasm
Kinda proving my point there mate.



Edited by RichTT on Monday 1st April 18:05

captain_cynic

12,121 posts

96 months

Monday 1st April
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RichTT said:
tangerine_sedge said:
RichTT said:
"a spectatorial, disgusted, mocking Left will give rise to a populist demagogue". - Richard Rorty
It's always the lefts fault that racists vote for populist dog-whistling politicians... /sarcasm
Kinda proving my point there mate.
And you're really proving my point here.

Extremists never consider that it's their POV that can be extreme... But some how everyone else has a problem with their views.

RichTT

3,089 posts

172 months

Monday 1st April
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captain_cynic said:
RichTT said:
tangerine_sedge said:
RichTT said:
"a spectatorial, disgusted, mocking Left will give rise to a populist demagogue". - Richard Rorty
It's always the lefts fault that racists vote for populist dog-whistling politicians... /sarcasm
Kinda proving my point there mate.
And you're really proving my point here.

Extremists never consider that it's their POV that can be extreme... But some how everyone else has a problem with their views.
You're just all for doubling down on the "everyone on the right is a racist / extremist" rhetoric aren't you? Next you'll be talking about systemic racism, or that all white's are racist and we need DEI and affirmative action to help the poor minorities.

(which again proves my point)



Edited by RichTT on Monday 1st April 18:23

tangerine_sedge

4,828 posts

219 months

Monday 1st April
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RichTT said:
tangerine_sedge said:
RichTT said:
"a spectatorial, disgusted, mocking Left will give rise to a populist demagogue". - Richard Rorty
It's always the lefts fault that racists vote for populist dog-whistling politicians... /sarcasm
Kinda proving my point there mate.



Edited by RichTT on Monday 1st April 18:05
The bigger boys made you do it? The reason why the 'left' might be disgusted by the far right, and might choose to mock them, is that they are pathetic and disgusting and deserve mocking?

I really wanted to vote for peace and brotherly love, but a lefty pointed out that the far right are a little bit brown-shirty, and that made me feel sorry for them, so I voted Brown-shirt?

It sounds like an excuse to me mate.

RichTT

3,089 posts

172 months

Monday 1st April
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tangerine_sedge said:
The bigger boys made you do it? The reason why the 'left' might be disgusted by the far right, and might choose to mock them, is that they are pathetic and disgusting and deserve mocking?

I really wanted to vote for peace and brotherly love, but a lefty pointed out that the far right are a little bit brown-shirty, and that made me feel sorry for them, so I voted Brown-shirt?

It sounds like an excuse to me mate.
You consider that about half of the population is pathetic and disgusting and deserve mocking?

Says a lot more about you than it does them. You have no moral high ground.

barryrs

4,394 posts

224 months

Monday 1st April
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I consider myself to be right of centre but your opinions are very different to mine.

Maybe I’m genuinely out of touch with regards to my political identity.

RichTT

3,089 posts

172 months

Monday 1st April
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The only position I'm giving at the moment is that the left has crawled so far up itself that it can't see the authoritarian elitism in its own ranks.

That's what the vote for Trump and similar populist leaders is. A rejection of a group of pseudo intellectuals that believe they have the right to dictate reality for others.

hidetheelephants

24,650 posts

194 months

Monday 1st April
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RichTT said:
The only position I'm giving at the moment is that the left has crawled so far up itself that it can't see the authoritarian elitism in its own ranks.

That's what the vote for Trump and similar populist leaders is. A rejection of a group of pseudo intellectuals that believe they have the right to dictate reality for others.
rofl How's life through the looking glass?

RichTT

3,089 posts

172 months

Monday 1st April
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The political right is a dumpster fire of corruption, bought or blackmailed politicians, corporate bribery, revolving doors, failed neocon warmongering and Zionist propaganda.

Does that sum it up ok?

dobbo_

14,406 posts

249 months

Monday 1st April
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I'm of the mind that accusing someone of being pseudo intellectual in that context is in itself pseudo intellectual.

But me saying that is... Turtles all the way down

Byker28i

60,452 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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RichTT said:
durbster said:
Do you ever consider that this might be because you are getting your views from sources called things like wokefather.com?
I used the website because it had statistics to make a point. I've never visited it before or after that post.
or I googled until I found something that matched my views?

soupdragon1

4,089 posts

98 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Enormous miss on Tesla Q1 deliveries.

Q4 2023 was 484k cars sold, but Q1 this year was only 387k cars. Tesla isn't looking very strong right now. What will sales actually be when Governments stop bribing people to buy them? Shudder.

Byker28i

60,452 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Or is it there's better built cars for the same money, and other cars that are cheaper now the Asian players are in the market?

soupdragon1

4,089 posts

98 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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Byker28i said:
Or is it there's better built cars for the same money, and other cars that are cheaper now the Asian players are in the market?
And that too.

Removing indicator stalks in the European market wasn't the cleverest move either. A lot of headwinds for Tesla. The cars are getting stale and updating the dash mounted iPad every once in a while just won't cut it. Customers want to see more than that, they want a MkII rather than a mild update.

Gecko1978

9,766 posts

158 months

Tuesday 2nd April
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4 years ago EV meant Tesla (not quite but a good EV was seen as a Tesla). Today well Mercedes, BMW, Jag, Nissa, MG, Audi, VW, Skoda, Renult, Ford etc all do EV's you might like. Plus the chinese firms have some nice stuff. Which now means Tesla USP is what