Liz Truss Prime Minister
Discussion
captain_cynic said:
I kind of understand that people unfamiliar with autism can get confused.
Autistic people tend to get unusually stressed by social situations which can provoke a fight or flight response (usually the flight response) which to the unaware can appear similar to an antisocial personality disorder (sociopathy).
I just think people should be more aware of the distinction and not put down deliberate antisocial behaviours to autism.
Justifiably corrected - thanks.Autistic people tend to get unusually stressed by social situations which can provoke a fight or flight response (usually the flight response) which to the unaware can appear similar to an antisocial personality disorder (sociopathy).
I just think people should be more aware of the distinction and not put down deliberate antisocial behaviours to autism.
She does certainly exhibit some strange personality traits. An extreme lack of self awareness seems to be a major aspect of her character.
RC1807 said:
It isn’t autism.
She’s a sociopathic narcissist.
Seeing her on BBC News at Ten last night. Quite astonishing.
She loves Trump and wants him to be the next US President. She sees him like her, and that’s all you need to know.
Probably because she wasn't there for long enough nor is charismatic enough to get onto the after dinner speech circuit and the only way to make money from her previous position is to go for the lunatic Trump supporters who have some sympathy with the deep state theory. In which case, she won't want Trump to win but will want Trump to lose so she can keep peddling the idea.She’s a sociopathic narcissist.
Seeing her on BBC News at Ten last night. Quite astonishing.
She loves Trump and wants him to be the next US President. She sees him like her, and that’s all you need to know.
Mr Penguin said:
Probably because she wasn't there for long enough nor is charismatic enough to get onto the after dinner speech circuit and the only way to make money from her previous position is to go for the lunatic Trump supporters who have some sympathy with the deep state theory. In which case, she won't want Trump to win but will want Trump to lose so she can keep peddling the idea.
Good point. There is a lot of money floating around the US hard right, and an ex-PM can probably ask a fair bit on the talk circuits.On the bright side, every penny she gets for spruiking hard-right talking points and Trump is one less for Boris.
captain_cynic said:
Baroque attacks said:
captain_cynic said:
Eric Mc said:
She does exhibit quite a few autistic signs to be honest.
Please don't confuse narcissistic or antisocial personality disorders with autism.Autistic people tend to get unusually stressed by social situations which can provoke a fight or flight response (usually the flight response) which to the unaware can appear similar to an antisocial personality disorder (sociopathy).
I just think people should be more aware of the distinction and not put down deliberate antisocial behaviours to autism.
but I think the semi-awareness about autism causes these types of incorrect links. As mentioned in a post about thinking her behaviour is odd. Odd doesn’t equal autism… Could be worse though - see the people ‘fake-stimming’ for attention on instagram et al
Baroque attacks said:
I know we’re vaguely off topic but I think the semi-awareness about autism causes these types of incorrect links. As mentioned in a post about thinking her behaviour is odd. Odd doesn’t equal autism…
Could be worse though - see the people ‘fake-stimming’ for attention on instagram et al
Its good that people are starting to be more aware of autism in everyday life, but you are dead right in that much more education is needed in terms of understanding of neurodiversity. but I think the semi-awareness about autism causes these types of incorrect links. As mentioned in a post about thinking her behaviour is odd. Odd doesn’t equal autism… Could be worse though - see the people ‘fake-stimming’ for attention on instagram et al
I think politicians are to one degree or another narcissists, some are extreme like Trump, Johnson, Truss and stand out because of that. It doesn't make them autistic, just unpalatable for people that aren't swayed by cult.
Eric Mc said:
captain_cynic said:
I kind of understand that people unfamiliar with autism can get confused.
Autistic people tend to get unusually stressed by social situations which can provoke a fight or flight response (usually the flight response) which to the unaware can appear similar to an antisocial personality disorder (sociopathy).
I just think people should be more aware of the distinction and not put down deliberate antisocial behaviours to autism.
Justifiably corrected - thanks.Autistic people tend to get unusually stressed by social situations which can provoke a fight or flight response (usually the flight response) which to the unaware can appear similar to an antisocial personality disorder (sociopathy).
I just think people should be more aware of the distinction and not put down deliberate antisocial behaviours to autism.
She does certainly exhibit some strange personality traits. An extreme lack of self awareness seems to be a major aspect of her character.
A contributor on R4 this morning described her as having 'The Opposite of Impostor Syndrome'. Seems pretty fair
oddman said:
As a retired shrink, I think she's difficult to classify. I can see why autism and psychopathy get bandied about.
A contributor on R4 this morning described her as having 'The Opposite of Impostor Syndrome'. Seems pretty fair
A friend worked on one of her policy teams and said similar, although slightly blunter - a set of bA contributor on R4 this morning described her as having 'The Opposite of Impostor Syndrome'. Seems pretty fair
ks bigger than anyone else and an even bigger lack of self-awareness.Gecko1978 said:
isaldiri said:
Gecko1978 said:
isaldiri said:
I'm sure the trajectory in your alternative world of - attempt to (robotically) speak with great conviction about 'growth', issuing a heap more debt assuming this 'growth' will pay for it somehow and just hoping the grand plan all comes together will be a lot better.....
I think you miss the point. We have tried tax and spend, and look where we are a failing NHS, poor growth, weak military and a reliance on immigration. We never tried Trussenomics mostly because the markets balked. But you have to wonder how carrying on with same policy is anything more than a slow death.Edited by isaldiri on Tuesday 16th April 08:38
That is the point Tax and spend isn't working. So what can we do, clearly Truss approach is not acceptable so what then?
I am actually not sure why we don't scale back some services and privatise some parts of the NHS like European nations or New Zealand
What we've had from this government though is tax more, invest less, bribe more.
Mr Penguin said:
aeropilot said:
Indeed.
She's always been an utter fruitloop.....I don't even know how she was able to become a MP let alone a minister, let alone PM.
Its no wonder poor old HMQ finally checked out when she had to accept Truss as new PM, after all the PM's she'd seen through her reign......Truss was the last straw.
George Osborne says she never used to be like this so presumably she was good and sane at one point, embarrassing speeches aside. She's always been an utter fruitloop.....I don't even know how she was able to become a MP let alone a minister, let alone PM.
Its no wonder poor old HMQ finally checked out when she had to accept Truss as new PM, after all the PM's she'd seen through her reign......Truss was the last straw.
Any sane person would have shuffled out of the public eye after the way she utterly humiliated herself.
I think there's a tendency to give women more leeway, particularly totally unassuming looking women like Truss.
Baroque attacks said:
captain_cynic said:
Baroque attacks said:
captain_cynic said:
Eric Mc said:
She does exhibit quite a few autistic signs to be honest.
Please don't confuse narcissistic or antisocial personality disorders with autism.Autistic people tend to get unusually stressed by social situations which can provoke a fight or flight response (usually the flight response) which to the unaware can appear similar to an antisocial personality disorder (sociopathy).
I just think people should be more aware of the distinction and not put down deliberate antisocial behaviours to autism.
but I think the semi-awareness about autism causes these types of incorrect links. As mentioned in a post about thinking her behaviour is odd. Odd doesn’t equal autism… Could be worse though - see the people ‘fake-stimming’ for attention on instagram et al
What's it called when someone is seemingly oblivious to the outcomes of their actions?
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