Liz Truss Prime Minister

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768

13,715 posts

97 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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neilr said:
Liz Truss as PM. It's like tunnelling out of Joseph Fritzls basement only to find you've come out in Fred Wests living room.
Try again if you're feeling lucky. My money's on Harold Shipman's waiting room.

Leicester Loyal

4,553 posts

123 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Car crash incoming.

768

13,715 posts

97 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Gargamel said:
Tossing insults isn't politics.
Maybe once. I'm not so sure anymore.

satfinal

2,622 posts

163 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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cc3 said:
Amazing how much negativity people have in their lives. Glad you don’t work in my business. It’s not good for your health to think so negatively about life.
respect is a two-way street

Al Gorithum

3,747 posts

209 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Newarch said:
Windfall tax on energy companies?
100% agree but LT doesn't seem keen on that, so I question whether the energy firms fund the Tory Party.

If she announces tax cuts for users instead of tax increases on energy firms to deal with the energy crisis, that is effectively the British tax payer funding foreign corporate greed.

MDMA .

8,910 posts

102 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Gargamel said:
Al Gorithum said:
Oh good. 80k people (who think that Boris did a great job) has decided who is PM for the next 2 years.

She is an imbecile.
Do tell us about your stellar achievements ?



Truss attended Merton College, Oxford, and was President of Oxford University Liberal Democrats. In 1996, she both graduated and joined the Conservative Party. She worked at Shell and Cable & Wireless, and was deputy director of the think tank Reform. Truss was elected for South West Norfolk at the 2010 general election. As a backbencher, she called for reform in several policy areas including childcare, mathematics education and the economy. She founded the Free Enterprise Group of Conservative MPs and wrote or co-wrote a number of papers and books, including After the Coalition (2011) and Britannia Unchained (2012).

Truss served as Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Childcare and Education from 2012 to 2014, before being appointed to the Cabinet by Cameron as Secretary of State for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs in the 2014 cabinet reshuffle. Though she was a supporter of the Britain Stronger in Europe campaign for the UK to remain in the European Union in the 2016 referendum, she supported Brexit after the result. After Cameron resigned in July 2016, Truss was appointed Secretary of State for Justice and Lord Chancellor by May, becoming the first female Lord Chancellor in the thousand-year history of the office. Following the 2017 general election, Truss was appointed Chief Secretary to the Treasury. After May resigned in 2019, Truss supported Johnson's bid to become Conservative leader. He appointed Truss as Secretary of State for International Trade and President of the Board of Trade. She took on the additional role of Minister for Women and Equalities in September 2019. She moved from the Department for International Trade to be promoted to Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs in the 2021 cabinet reshuffle. She was appointed the Government's chief negotiator with the European Union and UK chair of the EU–UK Partnership Council in December 2021.
As you seem to like copy/paste from Wikipedia, you missed the best bit out.

From 2004 until mid-2005, she had an extra-marital affair with the married MP Mark Field

So another PM with a high moral compass.

cirian75

4,264 posts

234 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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how long before the 1st major cock/up-turn?

I give it 6 hours

the-photographer

3,487 posts

177 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Al Gorithum said:
Newarch said:
Windfall tax on energy companies?
100% agree but LT doesn't seem keen on that, so I question whether the energy firms fund the Tory Party.

If she announces tax cuts for users instead of tax increases on energy firms to deal with the energy crisis, that is effectively the British tax payer funding foreign corporate greed.
Lets see

As many as 43 members of the House of Lords have investments totalling millions of pounds and senior roles in oil and gas companies, prompting accusations of “unethical” conflicts of interest.

An analysis by The Ferret can reveal that 33 of the peers who help make UK laws have shares worth a minimum of £50,000 in 19 oil and gas companies. A further ten peers chair, direct or advise 15 fossil fuel firms.

Most of the lords linked to big oil are Conservatives — 23 in all — amounting to nearly one in ten of the party’s peers. There are also 17 without political affiliations and three Labour, including five Scottish politicians.

https://theferret.scot/oil-industry-43-peers-share...

Oil and gas firms have given £1m to Boris Johnson’s Conservatives
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-invest...

Al Gorithum

3,747 posts

209 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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the-photographer said:
Al Gorithum said:
Newarch said:
Windfall tax on energy companies?
100% agree but LT doesn't seem keen on that, so I question whether the energy firms fund the Tory Party.

If she announces tax cuts for users instead of tax increases on energy firms to deal with the energy crisis, that is effectively the British tax payer funding foreign corporate greed.
Lets see

As many as 43 members of the House of Lords have investments totalling millions of pounds and senior roles in oil and gas companies, prompting accusations of “unethical” conflicts of interest.

An analysis by The Ferret can reveal that 33 of the peers who help make UK laws have shares worth a minimum of £50,000 in 19 oil and gas companies. A further ten peers chair, direct or advise 15 fossil fuel firms.

Most of the lords linked to big oil are Conservatives — 23 in all — amounting to nearly one in ten of the party’s peers. There are also 17 without political affiliations and three Labour, including five Scottish politicians.

https://theferret.scot/oil-industry-43-peers-share...

Oil and gas firms have given £1m to Boris Johnson’s Conservatives
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-invest...
Thank you. The Tory Party is a stinking cesspit. I really don't understand why an ordinary (thinking) working person would vote for them.

By demographic I should be a Tory voter, but wouldn't give them the steam off my urine.

768

13,715 posts

97 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Al Gorithum said:
Thank you. The Tory Party is a stinking cesspit. I really don't understand why an ordinary (thinking) working person would vote for them.

By demographic I should be a Tory voter, but wouldn't give them the steam off my urine.
Who are the ordinary (thinking) working people supposed to vote for instead?

rfisher

5,024 posts

284 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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I really liked the way that, having been formally announced as PM by SurrGraham, she turned to her left to grab her speech from the aid next to her and stood up, walking straight past SlippyRishi without even looking at him.

He made no attempt to offer his hand in congratulation, and she wouldn't have stopped even if he had.

Start as you mean to go on.

The PM is dead, long live the PM.

cc3

2,801 posts

117 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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cirian75 said:
how long before the 1st major cock/up-turn?

I give it 6 hours
Have you never made a mistake in life before or are you totally prefect !

GreatGranny

9,141 posts

227 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Reading about her political career it's hardly PM stuff.

Lost her first 3 GE's as a candidate in various West Yorkshire constituents.
She only became an MP in 2010 having been 'parachuted' into a safe Tory seat.

There was grumblings from the local Conservative Party when she was selected because of her affair with a married man.

Gargamel

15,018 posts

262 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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GreatGranny said:
Reading about her political career it's hardly PM stuff.

Lost her first 3 GE's as a candidate in various West Yorkshire constituents.
She only became an MP in 2010 having been 'parachuted' into a safe Tory seat.

There was grumblings from the local Conservative Party when she was selected because of her affair with a married man.
Which is pretty typical - certainly not unusual.


cc3

2,801 posts

117 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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the-photographer said:
Lets see

As many as 43 members of the House of Lords have investments totalling millions of pounds and senior roles in oil and gas companies, prompting accusations of “unethical” conflicts of interest.

An analysis by The Ferret can reveal that 33 of the peers who help make UK laws have shares worth a minimum of £50,000 in 19 oil and gas companies. A further ten peers chair, direct or advise 15 fossil fuel firms.

Most of the lords linked to big oil are Conservatives — 23 in all — amounting to nearly one in ten of the party’s peers. There are also 17 without political affiliations and three Labour, including five Scottish politicians.

https://theferret.scot/oil-industry-43-peers-share...

Oil and gas firms have given £1m to Boris Johnson’s Conservatives
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-invest...
So if you had a pension you wouldn’t draw it? Hope no one in your family is drawing a pension. Every fund will have investments in gas, oil etc as the dividends historically have been good. In your world the state would just pay you in old age ?

bitchstewie

51,481 posts

211 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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cc3 said:
cirian75 said:
how long before the 1st major cock/up-turn?

I give it 6 hours
Have you never made a mistake in life before or are you totally prefect !
I don't think people want perfection.

What I think people take exception to is the unwillingness of politicians to simply say "I was wrong" or "I changed my mind".

Instead we seem to be in some fresh hell where politicians will claim that the original decision was absolutely correct and the subsequent u-turn was also absolutely correct (or isn't a u-turn) even if the only thing that's changed in between is them being made to look foolish or they've been shamed into it.

See Rashford and school meals for a good example.

eharding

13,749 posts

285 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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GreatGranny said:
There was grumblings from the local Conservative Party when she was selected because of her affair with a married man who wasn't also her brother.
Again, South West Norfolk. Hence edited for accuracy.

cc3

2,801 posts

117 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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Al Gorithum said:
Thank you. The Tory Party is a stinking cesspit. I really don't understand why an ordinary (thinking) working person would vote for them.

By demographic I should be a Tory voter, but wouldn't give them the steam off my urine.
So that would apply then to any friends or members of your family who have invested in a pension or are living off a pension. You would want to treat them the same way

Gargamel

15,018 posts

262 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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MDMA . said:
As you seem to like copy/paste from Wikipedia, you missed the best bit out.

From 2004 until mid-2005, she had an extra-marital affair with the married MP Mark Field

So another PM with a high moral compass.
Do we want high moral politicians? because it does feel like 99% of politicians we get have in some way feet of clay.

Plus the ones that really do have proper moral and ethical standards I usually can't stand ! Need people that are as close to normal in how they live and operate as possible.


WestyCarl

3,265 posts

126 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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cirian75 said:
how long before the 1st major cock/up-turn?

I give it 6 hours
I've never really got this critising people for u-turns.

Of course we all want leaders to make correct decision's all the time, but back in the real world I want a leader who can recognise a wrong decision / path and be bold enough to correct it rather than to blindly continue.