Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

[turbobloke]

Tedious carp, mucho empty vesseling post content.

Is Rishi still the subject of the thread?!

[President Merkin]

Could be if you hadn't got all hand wringy over a nothingburger PE cover & threw your toys out again.

[hidetheelephants]

Sway said:

Iron Dome is a daft idea - but the notion that we're somehow immune to mass drone attacks due to location is incredibly flawed.

See the ingenuity of the Ukrainians in fitting aircraft or ship mounted weapons onto the backs of trucks, or using off the shelf consumer drones with vending machine mechanisms to drop grenades.

Now just think what a hostile actor could do with a container ship loaded up with drones/munitions sailing past London...

At the moment, we have nothing to cope with anything like that. QRA Typhoons aren't doing st.

So I do think there's an argument for a cheap, small, easily supported anti drone/swarm defence capability - and that capability should be deployed properly around our cities and major installations. Something like the Dragonfire isn't a stupid idea.

Meanwhile, Russia is still kicking off - and Xi is pretty much committed to going aggressive in ways we'll simply have to respond to, otherwise he loses face.

A reasonable point, but Iron Dome is neither cheap nor compact; it's cheaper than SkySabre/CAMM but not that much, Israel is an armed stockade compared to the UK, plus Israel spends over 5% of GDP on defence and is heavily subsidised by the US. Dragonfire and DE weapons in general are where development money should be put, US work on high power microwaves is proving both fruitful and affordable, the efficacy against small drones and anything else electronic and unhardened seems good. We're in an arms race again and coming 2nd has consequences.

[Sway]

hidetheelephants said:

Sway said:

Iron Dome is a daft idea - but the notion that we're somehow immune to mass drone attacks due to location is incredibly flawed.

See the ingenuity of the Ukrainians in fitting aircraft or ship mounted weapons onto the backs of trucks, or using off the shelf consumer drones with vending machine mechanisms to drop grenades.

Now just think what a hostile actor could do with a container ship loaded up with drones/munitions sailing past London...

At the moment, we have nothing to cope with anything like that. QRA Typhoons aren't doing st.

So I do think there's an argument for a cheap, small, easily supported anti drone/swarm defence capability - and that capability should be deployed properly around our cities and major installations. Something like the Dragonfire isn't a stupid idea.

Meanwhile, Russia is still kicking off - and Xi is pretty much committed to going aggressive in ways we'll simply have to respond to, otherwise he loses face.

A reasonable point, but Iron Dome is neither cheap nor compact; it's cheaper than SkySabre/CAMM but not that much, Israel is an armed stockade compared to the UK, plus Israel spends over 5% of GDP on defence and is heavily subsidised by the US. Dragonfire and DE weapons in general are where development money should be put, US work on high power microwaves is proving both fruitful and affordable, the efficacy against small drones and anything else electronic and unhardened seems good. We're in an arms race again and coming 2nd has consequences.

Hence why I said Iron Dome was a daft idea!

You're right on the new arms race. Time that things can change significantly in terms of global power.

[hidetheelephants]

Sway said:

Hence why I said Iron Dome was a daft idea!

You're right on the new arms race. Time that things can change significantly in terms of global power.

D'oh! Reading comprehension fail, I'm furiously agreeing with you.

[S600BSB]

blueg33 said:

turbobloke said:

President Merkin said:

Classic Turbs snowflakery. Surrounded by a compliant right wing press, still manages to pick out & moan about an unfavourable front page in a low circulation satirical magazine, well known for this sort of thing, gets laughed out of town & whines about personal attacks. Push off pal, you big wet blouse.

Yet more playing the man not the ball, what a shock! Thanks for the flattering attention, more please.

To be fair - there doesn't seem to be a ball to play..........

Very good. I’m sure the nurse will be round with his meds soon.

[Sway]

hidetheelephants said:

Sway said:

Hence why I said Iron Dome was a daft idea!

You're right on the new arms race. Time that things can change significantly in terms of global power.

D'oh! Reading comprehension fail, I'm furiously agreeing with you.

Grrr. Angry first shaking in your general direction!

[anonymoususer]

Tories now at 27% in polls
Excellent news for all tories and a huge personal triumph for Rishi.
This is the news that will strike fear into both the Labour Party the like of which they haven't experienced since 1979

[bitchstewie]

Which poll out of curiosity?

They were 21-22% with YouGov last Friday.

[Wills2]

bhstewie said:

Which poll out of curiosity?

They were 21-22% with YouGov last Friday.

I think it was conducted in the bar of a local conservative club the other 73% are voting for the reform party.

[Unreal]

I can't be the only person wishing the election was over so we could talk about what's happening under the next government rather that than what will or what won't.

The present lot are a busted flush. I think even the most ardent Tory knows that. When's the next poll due out? Based on recent ones the Tories are wasting their time turning up so it will interesting to see if the recent attempts to appeal to the right have had any effect.

[The Count]

Well, if the 'pint-sized loser' needs a hand, O’Leary is ready to step in.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rya...

[Disastrous]

turbobloke said:

Yet more playing the man not the ball, what a shock! Irony and ad homs to go.

Thanks for the flattering attention, more please. It'll arrive anyway when there's nothing on topic available.

Have you got these responses saved as shortcuts or something?

We should make a turbobloke word cloud…it’d be small.

[Evanivitch]

Sway said:

Iron Dome is a daft idea - but the notion that we're somehow immune to mass drone attacks due to location is incredibly flawed.

See the ingenuity of the Ukrainians in fitting aircraft or ship mounted weapons onto the backs of trucks, or using off the shelf consumer drones with vending machine mechanisms to drop grenades.

Now just think what a hostile actor could do with a container ship loaded up with drones/munitions sailing past London...

At the moment, we have nothing to cope with anything like that. QRA Typhoons aren't doing st.

So I do think there's an argument for a cheap, small, easily supported anti drone/swarm defence capability - and that capability should be deployed properly around our cities and major installations. Something like the Dragonfire isn't a stupid idea.

Meanwhile, Russia is still kicking off - and Xi is pretty much committed to going aggressive in ways we'll simply have to respond to, otherwise he loses face.

We've had nothing to protect against a container ship filled with rockets of short range ballistic missiles either, but it's not happened in decades. It's some proper Tom Clancy/Dale Brown fantasy to think it's a worthwhile scenario to invest £Bn and massively increase the risk of fraticide.

I would support an anti ballistic missile screen, it's something I've proposed as an alternative to the Nuclear deterrent (alongside rebuilding our strategic conventional deep strike capability).

[hidetheelephants]

Evanivitch said:

I would support an anti ballistic missile screen, it's something I've proposed as an alternative to the Nuclear deterrent (alongside rebuilding our strategic conventional deep strike capability).

Seems a bit drastic binning the instant sunshine, keep it but lower the cost by mounting it on stealthy cruise missiles which can be launched by the subs. I'm sure Their Airships would like longer range weapons, although perhaps the dropshorts might like some PrSMs for their MLRS systems as well.

[Evanivitch]

hidetheelephants said:

Seems a bit drastic binning the instant sunshine, keep it but lower the cost by mounting it on stealthy cruise missiles which can be launched by the subs. I'm sure Their Airships would like longer range weapons, although perhaps the dropshorts might like some PrSMs for their MLRS systems as well.

I'm not proposing we bin it, but in a world where we did bin trident I would expect equal investment in the previously mentioned systems. The point being it wouldn't be a money saving exercise.

Cruise missiles don't have the survivability of ICBM.

[GetCarter]

anonymoususer said:

Tories now at 27% in polls
Excellent news for all tories and a huge personal triumph for Rishi.
This is the news that will strike fear into both the Labour Party the like of which they haven't experienced since 1979

YouGov today 45% Lab - 20% Tory.

Poll of polls says 19+% Lab lead.

[blueg33]

GetCarter said:

YouGov today 45% Lab - 20% Tory.

Poll of polls says 19+% Lab lead.

They really do need to stop spinning this out. If ever there was proof that they give zero fks about the country its the failure to call an election when its clear that people want them gone.

[crankedup5]

blueg33 said:

GetCarter said:

YouGov today 45% Lab - 20% Tory.

Poll of polls says 19+% Lab lead.

They really do need to stop spinning this out. If ever there was proof that they give zero fks about the country its the failure to call an election when its clear that people want them gone.

But politics.

[sugerbear]

Sunak wants to be able to say he was Prime Minister for at least a year once he has fecked off to California.

He has zero interest in the interests of the UK.