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He was a bit silly, being in public life, doing what he did. However, he wasn’t really up to much as a newscaster, and he was praised to the high heavens for his royal coverage, particularly the death of the Queen ( at a great age). He was adequate, but really somewhat unremarkable. Why do some of us make such a big deal about newsreaders?
JuanCarlosFandango said:
Presumably still been collecting £millions a day from the licence fee while reading the weather forecast on Radio Llareggub. Huw knew.
The BBC has confirmed that Edwards has not been paid off as part of his departure.Edited by JuanCarlosFandango on Monday 22 April 22:24
Lester H said:
He was a bit silly, being in public life, doing what he did. However, he wasn’t really up to much as a newscaster, and he was praised to the high heavens for his royal coverage, particularly the death of the Queen ( at a great age). He was adequate, but really somewhat unremarkable. Why do some of us make such a big deal about newsreaders?
There is a large amount of skill to the task and then on top of that because they then become a figurehead there is value to their fan base. The skill in event coverage was best highlighted when the BBC tested the waters with a team built around Fern Cotton for that weird royal barge event. Someone perfectly competent at prep work and ad-libbing at a banal level can struggle to do 'gravitas'. Being able to bang on for hours about, say, a bloke dressed up like its panto season without slipping up or cracking up is a serious skillset. They then need to have built a firm fan base on the back of their reliability (which requires keeping quiet about tax evasion, goat sex etc, the usual media private lives).
In short, it's not an easy job. You need a fitted suit, gravitas and a robust facade of clean living to build the following for news events. You also need to be able to read an autocue and have the brain to infill on stories without slipping up which when you see the efforts of the juniors dragged up from the regional stations to test the waters in the search for the next national reader, you do see just how difficult that is. Some of these people struggle to read and they have degrees in the stuff and have been doing it for several years already. Likewise for sports news you need a 'bird with tits and lips' or the participants and viewers don't engage and finding someone for the masses to dream over but who can actually read and think well enough is even more difficult. More cerebral sports require less and less of that 'prossie' angle.
To be honest, I can understand why you have to pay large sums to the fee with those skills to keep them from competitors or to extract them.
DonkeyApple said:
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To be honest, I can understand why you have to pay large sums to the fee with those skills to keep them from competitors or to extract them.
Even with all those qualities, do you really think millions of people would switch over to watch the news on another channel if the presenter had a bit less gravitas? Even if so, in the BBCs case, who actually cares? Do they loose advertising revenue? I'm not going to watch Channel 4 news ever, whoever is presenting it.To be honest, I can understand why you have to pay large sums to the fee with those skills to keep them from competitors or to extract them.
cuprabob said:
AceRockatansky said:
paulguitar said:
carlo996 said:
Can’t help but feel a bit dirty reading some of the comments. As f
ked up as his personal situation is, he’s clearly unwell.
Agreed. Some pretty distasteful stuff on this thread. ked up as his personal situation is, he’s clearly unwell.
paulguitar said:
cuprabob said:
AceRockatansky said:
paulguitar said:
carlo996 said:
Can’t help but feel a bit dirty reading some of the comments. As fked up as his personal situation is, he’s clearly unwell.
Agreed. Some pretty distasteful stuff on this thread. ked up as his personal situation is, he’s clearly unwell.The Welsh, no different from most British regions, were hardly tolerant towards difference any more than they were to outsiders. Hence why so many of these people from the Boomer and GenX generations had to leave and make their way to places like London to be free and treated like a normal human by an enough people. And even then, in order to be able to return home or in extreme cases protect their family back home or just to give from the general, residual stigma in society they set up with a beard and carry on the facade until the parents are dead, children grown up and society has grown sufficiently for the facade to no longer be worth the effort.
What you then get with some over 50s is that midlife crisis need to relive a youth they never had but had always wanted. For some men that's buying an Austin Allegro or a Porsche and cruising the mean streets, for others it is dating the people the wares to date when back in their 20s. Of course, if that happens to involve homosexuality then you're always going to have a block of the simpler sections of society banging on about disease, vice, etc. Invariably the the sort of dimwit who still hasn't realised why Uncle Leslie always wore a tie pin and pocket square and kept his Cortina absolutely immaculate. Granny knew. Granny always knows and it never bothers granny because granny isn't a dimwit with sad insecurities that propel a bloke to try and be all macho.
A good thing about the evolution of regional society since the dawn of the internet has given them a window into civilisation is that the act of 'Going West' looks to be dying out. That's a shame for cities that has prospered from that migration but it does mean bears demand is also plummeting and we will hopefully have fewer and fewer of these coming out events that while so many enjoy salivating over are hard for ferie da and family at the time. Although the complexity will remain when people want to raise children as part of their family and not small dogs that require nighttime exercise on the Heath.
DonkeyApple said:
Lester H said:
He was a bit silly, being in public life, doing what he did. However, he wasn’t really up to much as a newscaster, and he was praised to the high heavens for his royal coverage, particularly the death of the Queen ( at a great age). He was adequate, but really somewhat unremarkable. Why do some of us make such a big deal about newsreaders?
There is a large amount of skill to the task and then on top of that because they then become a figurehead there is value to their fan base. The skill in event coverage was best highlighted when the BBC tested the waters with a team built around Fern Cotton for that weird royal barge event. Someone perfectly competent at prep work and ad-libbing at a banal level can struggle to do 'gravitas'. Being able to bang on for hours about, say, a bloke dressed up like its panto season without slipping up or cracking up is a serious skillset. They then need to have built a firm fan base on the back of their reliability (which requires keeping quiet about tax evasion, goat sex etc, the usual media private lives).
In short, it's not an easy job. You need a fitted suit, gravitas and a robust facade of clean living to build the following for news events. You also need to be able to read an autocue and have the brain to infill on stories without slipping up which when you see the efforts of the juniors dragged up from the regional stations to test the waters in the search for the next national reader, you do see just how difficult that is. Some of these people struggle to read and they have degrees in the stuff and have been doing it for several years already. Likewise for sports news you need a 'bird with tits and lips' or the participants and viewers don't engage and finding someone for the masses to dream over but who can actually read and think well enough is even more difficult. More cerebral sports require less and less of that 'prossie' angle.
To be honest, I can understand why you have to pay large sums to the fee with those skills to keep them from competitors or to extract them.
DonkeyApple said:
It's worth noting that in 2024 homosexuality is not a disease and such people are not 'unwell'. They are merely victims of earlier societies that not only frowned upon religious nonconformity but were actively prejudice.
The Welsh, no different from most British regions, were hardly tolerant towards difference any more than they were to outsiders. Hence why so many of these people from the Boomer and GenX generations had to leave and make their way to places like London to be free and treated like a normal human by an enough people. And even then, in order to be able to return home or in extreme cases protect their family back home or just to give from the general, residual stigma in society they set up with a beard and carry on the facade until the parents are dead, children grown up and society has grown sufficiently for the facade to no longer be worth the effort.
What you then get with some over 50s is that midlife crisis need to relive a youth they never had but had always wanted. For some men that's buying an Austin Allegro or a Porsche and cruising the mean streets, for others it is dating the people the wares to date when back in their 20s. Of course, if that happens to involve homosexuality then you're always going to have a block of the simpler sections of society banging on about disease, vice, etc. Invariably the the sort of dimwit who still hasn't realised why Uncle Leslie always wore a tie pin and pocket square and kept his Cortina absolutely immaculate. Granny knew. Granny always knows and it never bothers granny because granny isn't a dimwit with sad insecurities that propel a bloke to try and be all macho.
A good thing about the evolution of regional society since the dawn of the internet has given them a window into civilisation is that the act of 'Going West' looks to be dying out. That's a shame for cities that has prospered from that migration but it does mean bears demand is also plummeting and we will hopefully have fewer and fewer of these coming out events that while so many enjoy salivating over are hard for ferie da and family at the time. Although the complexity will remain when people want to raise children as part of their family and not small dogs that require nighttime exercise on the Heath.
It's got nothing to do with homosexuality. People in their 60s hitting on people in their late teens or 20s is fThe Welsh, no different from most British regions, were hardly tolerant towards difference any more than they were to outsiders. Hence why so many of these people from the Boomer and GenX generations had to leave and make their way to places like London to be free and treated like a normal human by an enough people. And even then, in order to be able to return home or in extreme cases protect their family back home or just to give from the general, residual stigma in society they set up with a beard and carry on the facade until the parents are dead, children grown up and society has grown sufficiently for the facade to no longer be worth the effort.
What you then get with some over 50s is that midlife crisis need to relive a youth they never had but had always wanted. For some men that's buying an Austin Allegro or a Porsche and cruising the mean streets, for others it is dating the people the wares to date when back in their 20s. Of course, if that happens to involve homosexuality then you're always going to have a block of the simpler sections of society banging on about disease, vice, etc. Invariably the the sort of dimwit who still hasn't realised why Uncle Leslie always wore a tie pin and pocket square and kept his Cortina absolutely immaculate. Granny knew. Granny always knows and it never bothers granny because granny isn't a dimwit with sad insecurities that propel a bloke to try and be all macho.
A good thing about the evolution of regional society since the dawn of the internet has given them a window into civilisation is that the act of 'Going West' looks to be dying out. That's a shame for cities that has prospered from that migration but it does mean bears demand is also plummeting and we will hopefully have fewer and fewer of these coming out events that while so many enjoy salivating over are hard for ferie da and family at the time. Although the complexity will remain when people want to raise children as part of their family and not small dogs that require nighttime exercise on the Heath.
king grim. The sex of the hittor or the hittee is irrelevant. DonkeyApple said:
It's worth noting that in 2024 homosexuality is not a disease and such people are not 'unwell'. They are merely victims of earlier societies that not only frowned upon religious nonconformity but were actively prejudice.
The Welsh, no different from most British regions, were hardly tolerant towards difference any more than they were to outsiders. Hence why so many of these people from the Boomer and GenX generations had to leave and make their way to places like London to be free and treated like a normal human by an enough people. And even then, in order to be able to return home or in extreme cases protect their family back home or just to give from the general, residual stigma in society they set up with a beard and carry on the facade until the parents are dead, children grown up and society has grown sufficiently for the facade to no longer be worth the effort.
What you then get with some over 50s is that midlife crisis need to relive a youth they never had but had always wanted. For some men that's buying an Austin Allegro or a Porsche and cruising the mean streets, for others it is dating the people the wares to date when back in their 20s. Of course, if that happens to involve homosexuality then you're always going to have a block of the simpler sections of society banging on about disease, vice, etc. Invariably the the sort of dimwit who still hasn't realised why Uncle Leslie always wore a tie pin and pocket square and kept his Cortina absolutely immaculate. Granny knew. Granny always knows and it never bothers granny because granny isn't a dimwit with sad insecurities that propel a bloke to try and be all macho.
A good thing about the evolution of regional society since the dawn of the internet has given them a window into civilisation is that the act of 'Going West' looks to be dying out. That's a shame for cities that has prospered from that migration but it does mean bears demand is also plummeting and we will hopefully have fewer and fewer of these coming out events that while so many enjoy salivating over are hard for ferie da and family at the time. Although the complexity will remain when people want to raise children as part of their family and not small dogs that require nighttime exercise on the Heath.
As a member of the Comment Reading Association (CRA), I’m only here to read comments. Please keep the comments short and simple. We do however appreciate your typing effort. The Welsh, no different from most British regions, were hardly tolerant towards difference any more than they were to outsiders. Hence why so many of these people from the Boomer and GenX generations had to leave and make their way to places like London to be free and treated like a normal human by an enough people. And even then, in order to be able to return home or in extreme cases protect their family back home or just to give from the general, residual stigma in society they set up with a beard and carry on the facade until the parents are dead, children grown up and society has grown sufficiently for the facade to no longer be worth the effort.
What you then get with some over 50s is that midlife crisis need to relive a youth they never had but had always wanted. For some men that's buying an Austin Allegro or a Porsche and cruising the mean streets, for others it is dating the people the wares to date when back in their 20s. Of course, if that happens to involve homosexuality then you're always going to have a block of the simpler sections of society banging on about disease, vice, etc. Invariably the the sort of dimwit who still hasn't realised why Uncle Leslie always wore a tie pin and pocket square and kept his Cortina absolutely immaculate. Granny knew. Granny always knows and it never bothers granny because granny isn't a dimwit with sad insecurities that propel a bloke to try and be all macho.
A good thing about the evolution of regional society since the dawn of the internet has given them a window into civilisation is that the act of 'Going West' looks to be dying out. That's a shame for cities that has prospered from that migration but it does mean bears demand is also plummeting and we will hopefully have fewer and fewer of these coming out events that while so many enjoy salivating over are hard for ferie da and family at the time. Although the complexity will remain when people want to raise children as part of their family and not small dogs that require nighttime exercise on the Heath.
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