Huw Edwards

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TwigtheWonderkid

43,412 posts

151 months

Friday 26th April
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DonkeyApple said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
DonkeyApple said:
JagLover said:
Well yes and no. Yes in that your statement is correct, but no as in people will always be making judgements and following social rules means social acceptability.
The most pious are usually the most heinous. biggrin
If you think disapproving of 60 y/olds in a position of power hitting on junior staff in their 20s, putting them in a very difficult position, is pious, then perhaps you do need to consider your own morals and boundaries.
Nope. I just happen to think that you're making up extreme scenarios to fit your belief that's all.
Extreme scenarios? Isn't that what happened. In what circumstances is a 60+ y/o pursuing someone in their 20s acceptable to you?

Unreal

3,444 posts

26 months

Friday 26th April
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Rufus Stone said:
Nonsense.

If both parties are adults and content then it's of no-one else's business or moral judgement.
Half right. It's none of my business but I'm allowed to make a moral judgement. We all judge people all the time, and there's no law against it. I'm perfectly entitled to make a moral judgement about someone in their 60s hooking up or hitting on someone in their 20s. My moral judgement is that I think they are absolutely pathetic. And I'm allowed to express that view.
WHY is it pathetic? That suggests there is a norm that isn't. Where is that norm? What is it that so offends your morality that you would use a term like pathetic?

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not talking about the abuse of power in relationships.

Rufus Stone

6,295 posts

57 months

Friday 26th April
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Are you judging me? A bit hypocritical, is it not?
No, it's a factual statement. biggrin

DonkeyApple

55,435 posts

170 months

Friday 26th April
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
DonkeyApple said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
DonkeyApple said:
JagLover said:
Well yes and no. Yes in that your statement is correct, but no as in people will always be making judgements and following social rules means social acceptability.
The most pious are usually the most heinous. biggrin
If you think disapproving of 60 y/olds in a position of power hitting on junior staff in their 20s, putting them in a very difficult position, is pious, then perhaps you do need to consider your own morals and boundaries.
Nope. I just happen to think that you're making up extreme scenarios to fit your belief that's all.
Extreme scenarios? Isn't that what happened. In what circumstances is a 60+ y/o pursuing someone in their 20s acceptable to you?
You've got yourself overly wound up and are now trying to fight a scenario that no one else is and seeking to fit any post you that fabricated environment.

Take a break, recalibrate and come back to the table with a straight head. Or toddle off the the airport and take your discussion up with the blokes off to Thailand.

JuanCarlosFandango

7,807 posts

72 months

Friday 26th April
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DonkeyApple said:
Nope. I just happen to think that you're making up extreme scenarios to fit your belief that's all.
A wealthy celebrity paying thousands of pounds to a teenage drug addict for lewd pictures sounds pretty extreme to me. The other allegations of threats and abuse are pretty grim too.

The whole "homophobic" thing is a smoke screen, as I suspect is the "mental health" issue. Media spin to shield a nasty, manipulative bully who used his wealth and privilege to exploit the vulnerable for warped sexual gratification. If Edwards was known for being critical of covid policies or mass immigration he'd be crucified for far less. As he works for the state broadcaster he is defended.

We all know that though, however much people contort themselves trying to pretend otherwise.

Rufus Stone

6,295 posts

57 months

Friday 26th April
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
A wealthy celebrity paying thousands of pounds to a teenage drug addict for lewd pictures sounds pretty extreme to me. The other allegations of threats and abuse are pretty grim too.

The whole "homophobic" thing is a smoke screen, as I suspect is the "mental health" issue. Media spin to shield a nasty, manipulative bully who used his wealth and privilege to exploit the vulnerable for warped sexual gratification. If Edwards was known for being critical of covid policies or mass immigration he'd be crucified for far less. As he works for the state broadcaster he is defended.

We all know that though, however much people contort themselves trying to pretend otherwise.
Didn't Edwards spend £30,000 or something like? Doesn't sound as if he was the one doing the exploiting to me.

JuanCarlosFandango

7,807 posts

72 months

Friday 26th April
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Rufus Stone said:
Didn't Edwards spend £30,000 or something like? Doesn't sound as if he was the one doing the exploiting to me.
Aye those crack addict school boys have some explaining to do.

119

6,403 posts

37 months

Friday 26th April
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Rufus Stone said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Half right. It's none of my business but I'm allowed to make a moral judgement. We all judge people all the time, and there's no law against it. I'm perfectly entitled to make a moral judgement about someone in their 60s hooking up or hitting on someone in their 20s. My moral judgement is that I think they are absolutely pathetic. And I'm allowed to express that view.
And you look equally pathetic when doing so.
Are you judging me? A bit hypocritical, is it not?
Wow.

rofl

jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Friday 26th April
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JagLover said:
jdw100 said:
Do you have an limit on age difference you do consider acceptable?

Is 60 year old with 29 year old okay?

Is 60 the cut off when it gos from acceptable to pathetic?

Asking as I’m 56 and going out tonight.
Half your age plus 7, so 35 is your cut-off.
Got it thanks.

Wife has just turned 38 so I’m in the clear.

Best to check these things, wouldn’t want to run foul of the court of public opinion.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,412 posts

151 months

Friday 26th April
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119 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Rufus Stone said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Half right. It's none of my business but I'm allowed to make a moral judgement. We all judge people all the time, and there's no law against it. I'm perfectly entitled to make a moral judgement about someone in their 60s hooking up or hitting on someone in their 20s. My moral judgement is that I think they are absolutely pathetic. And I'm allowed to express that view.
And you look equally pathetic when doing so.
Are you judging me? A bit hypocritical, is it not?
Wow.

rofl
Why? Apparently we shouldn't judge blokes in their 60s hitting on people in their 20s, but it's OK to judge people for judging people in their 60s hitting on people in their 20s. Seems very odd.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,412 posts

151 months

Friday 26th April
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Unreal said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Rufus Stone said:
Nonsense.

If both parties are adults and content then it's of no-one else's business or moral judgement.
Half right. It's none of my business but I'm allowed to make a moral judgement. We all judge people all the time, and there's no law against it. I'm perfectly entitled to make a moral judgement about someone in their 60s hooking up or hitting on someone in their 20s. My moral judgement is that I think they are absolutely pathetic. And I'm allowed to express that view.
WHY is it pathetic? That suggests there is a norm that isn't. Where is that norm? What is it that so offends your morality that you would use a term like pathetic?

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not talking about the abuse of power in relationships.
Well there is a norm. An overwhelming number of people in their 60s are not pursuing people in their 20s for sexual reasons. I would image that far less that 1% are. So those that are are, by definition, not normal. They are not complying with the statistical norm. It's clearly not normal behaviour.

Now just because something isn't normal doesn't make it wrong. But in this case, in my opinion, it is.

As for saying you're not talking about the abuse of power in relationships, that's what Huw Edwards did. That's what we're talking about. Most people in their 60s hitting on people in their 20s are doing so from a position of power. I should think not many 60 y/o make up artists are pursued by 22 year old film stars. 60 y/o film starts pursuing 22 y/o make up artists, probably more likely.

DonkeyApple

55,435 posts

170 months

Friday 26th April
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
119 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Rufus Stone said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Half right. It's none of my business but I'm allowed to make a moral judgement. We all judge people all the time, and there's no law against it. I'm perfectly entitled to make a moral judgement about someone in their 60s hooking up or hitting on someone in their 20s. My moral judgement is that I think they are absolutely pathetic. And I'm allowed to express that view.
And you look equally pathetic when doing so.
Are you judging me? A bit hypocritical, is it not?
Wow.

rofl
Why? Apparently we shouldn't judge blokes in their 60s hitting on people in their 20s, but it's OK to judge people for judging people in their 60s hitting on people in their 20s. Seems very odd.
No love. You've just speared off down 'Mental Lane' with the base and extremist opinion that those who don't 100% agree with your rhetoric must hold a view that is the polar opposite. smile

Just go and make yourself a cup of tea, maybe relax over some housework and have a think about it all.

carlo996

5,761 posts

22 months

Friday 26th April
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DonkeyApple said:
No love. You've just speared off down 'Mental Lane' with the base and extremist opinion that those who don't 100% agree with your rhetoric must hold a view that is the polar opposite. smile

Just go and make yourself a cup of tea, maybe relax over some housework and have a think about it all.
rofl

TwigtheWonderkid

43,412 posts

151 months

Friday 26th April
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DonkeyApple said:
No love. You've just speared off down 'Mental Lane' with the base and extremist opinion that those who don't 100% agree with your rhetoric must hold a view that is the polar opposite. smile

Just go and make yourself a cup of tea, maybe relax over some housework and have a think about it all.
Thinking people in their 60s should not be hitting on people in their 20s is not an extremist position. It's quite worrying that some people think it is.

Rufus Stone

6,295 posts

57 months

Friday 26th April
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Thinking people in their 60s should not be hitting on people in their 20s is not an extremist position. It's quite worrying that some people think it is.
You basically called them perverts.

DonkeyApple

55,435 posts

170 months

Friday 26th April
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Thinking people in their 60s should not be hitting on people in their 20s is not an extremist position. It's quite worrying that some people think it is.
banghead

You're the only punter banging on and on about 60 yr olds trying to pull 20 yr olds. It's very clearly a serious obsession and one which even a couple of cups of tea, a biscuit and a little nap isn't going to fix for you. Maybe at least wear a bib to catch the dribble?

DeejRC

5,817 posts

83 months

Friday 26th April
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He wasn’t pulling, or hitting on him. He was paying him. A punter. Transactional. Moula. Money. Dosh. Whoring.
Not chicken feed but £30k. This isn’t a “relationship” this is a business arrangement, as such moralistic mothering about age stuff is irrelevant.
All was fine till the kids idiot mother killed his business!

CoolHands

18,696 posts

196 months

Friday 26th April
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Still pretty pathetic though

JuanCarlosFandango

7,807 posts

72 months

Friday 26th April
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DeejRC said:
He wasn’t pulling, or hitting on him. He was paying him. A punter. Transactional. Moula. Money. Dosh. Whoring.
Not chicken feed but £30k. This isn’t a “relationship” this is a business arrangement, as such moralistic mothering about age stuff is irrelevant.
All was fine till the kids idiot mother killed his business!
As a parent of teenagers, if my 17 year old had a business that involved say washing cars or dog walking then I'd applaud their entrepreneurial spirit. Hopefully it will earn them enough to buy their first car or go on holiday with their friends. Great stuff.

Selling lewd pictures to a 60 year old pervert from the BBC to fund a crack habit, less so. Nosey and moralising old buzzard that I am.

Biker's Nemesis

38,714 posts

209 months

Friday 26th April
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Why has Huw lost his job?